Knicks · Woj: Melo willing to waive NTC for trade to Rockets or Cavs (page 3)

Chandler @ 7/3/2017 10:46 AM
Lebron's recent behavior is puzzling

Is he quiet on the recruiting front, because he feels doomed to no more titles in Cleveland (i.e., already checked out), or is he thinking Melo as a 2d or 3d option gives them enough for 1 or 2 more challenges to GS

Melo will be in Houston before he ends up in Boston.

CrushAlot @ 7/3/2017 10:49 AM
Chandler wrote:Lebron's recent behavior is puzzling

Is he quiet on the recruiting front, because he feels doomed to no more titles in Cleveland (i.e., already checked out), or is he thinking Melo as a 2d or 3d option gives them enough for 1 or 2 more challenges to GS

Melo will be in Houston before he ends up in Boston.


Boston probably has the best package for the Knicks. Morey gets things done though. Houston is probably where he ends up.
Jmpasq @ 7/3/2017 11:07 AM
Chandler wrote:Lebron's recent behavior is puzzling

Is he quiet on the recruiting front, because he feels doomed to no more titles in Cleveland (i.e., already checked out), or is he thinking Melo as a 2d or 3d option gives them enough for 1 or 2 more challenges to GS

Melo will be in Houston before he ends up in Boston.


They only compete if Melo is bought out. They could then trade Love for quality depth.
HofstraBBall @ 7/3/2017 11:32 AM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Cavs get Melo

Pheonix get Love

Knicks get Brandon Knight, Marquis Chriss, Kay Felder, Barbossa (expiring), Frye (expiring)...

News is that Cavs are more comfortable with Love, after the finals performance.

For me, the best thing to do is keep Melo until the trade deadline. Think he will be at his best and eager to prove Phil was the problem and do his best to play all around good ball. This will be the best way to raise his trade value. Then hope that Houston is having some issues gelling and that Cavs are going through their ussual mid year boredom struggles. Also, temas looking for a Playoof rental will see Melo's contract as a playoff rental and just one more year to absorb. Trading him now when his value is at it's lowest is a mistake. Only issue is that it may mess up our lottery pick.

melo is a declining player so dont expect him to all of a sudden have a bigtime year because phil is gone. His value isnt high either way. Teams are looking at him as a third option who can provide scoring. Plus its time we focus on our young guys.

Yes he is declining. But he is one year removed from playing good all around ball. And he is still a great scorer. Either way, dont think he can hurt his trade value any further, unless he gets hurt. And Houston and Cleveland may want to see how things pan out before commiting any real assets.

meloshouldgo @ 7/3/2017 11:53 AM
nyknickzingis wrote:Wonder if the Rockets would part with Capela.

Nene
Melo
Tucker
Harden
Paul
Bench scoring - Anderson and Gordon

IMO if we push for it we may be able to get Ariza, Capela. Wonder if the Rockets are enough under the cap where they can absorb the difference in salaries.

Capela
Porzingis
Ariza
Baker
Ntilikina

Two way starting 5 that can defend
Bench scoring - Hernangomez, Thomas, Lee.

That would be nice, but MDA isn't going to want Melo. Morey wool look like an idiot to fire the COY.
I think the rockets trade is DOA.

WaltLongmire @ 7/3/2017 12:01 PM
Chandler wrote:Lebron's recent behavior is puzzling

Is he quiet on the recruiting front, because he feels doomed to no more titles in Cleveland (i.e., already checked out), or is he thinking Melo as a 2d or 3d option gives them enough for 1 or 2 more challenges to GS

Melo will be in Houston before he ends up in Boston.


ESPN radio just mentioned that Billups has pulled out of the Cavs job...speculation is that he found out James was not a long-term lock to stay with the franchise.
HofstraBBall @ 7/3/2017 12:28 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:Wonder if the Rockets would part with Capela.

Nene
Melo
Tucker
Harden
Paul
Bench scoring - Anderson and Gordon

IMO if we push for it we may be able to get Ariza, Capela. Wonder if the Rockets are enough under the cap where they can absorb the difference in salaries.

Capela
Porzingis
Ariza
Baker
Ntilikina

Two way starting 5 that can defend
Bench scoring - Hernangomez, Thomas, Lee.

That would be nice, but MDA isn't going to want Melo. Morey wool look like an idiot to fire the COY.
I think the rockets trade is DOA.

Maybe their hate for each other is overblown by know it all hater fans and the click fiending media?

HofstraBBall @ 7/3/2017 12:33 PM
Chandler wrote:Lebron's recent behavior is puzzling

Is he quiet on the recruiting front, because he feels doomed to no more titles in Cleveland (i.e., already checked out), or is he thinking Melo as a 2d or 3d option gives them enough for 1 or 2 more challenges to GS

Melo will be in Houston before he ends up in Boston.

Cavs only real scenerio. Houston needs to find someone dumb enough to take Anderson's contract. Cavs would need a third team for Love as hopefully the Knicks realize he does not meet our timeline. Think a team like the Suns would come in to play. They have young assets and on different timeline. Or maybe another West coast team. Dont think another East team will help in any way to get Melo to join Bron. Specially Boston.

knicks1248 @ 7/3/2017 12:41 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
Chandler wrote:Lebron's recent behavior is puzzling

Is he quiet on the recruiting front, because he feels doomed to no more titles in Cleveland (i.e., already checked out), or is he thinking Melo as a 2d or 3d option gives them enough for 1 or 2 more challenges to GS

Melo will be in Houston before he ends up in Boston.


ESPN radio just mentioned that Billups has pulled out of the Cavs job...speculation is that he found out James was not a long-term lock to stay with the franchise.

That was a no brainer

meloshouldgo @ 7/3/2017 2:14 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:Wonder if the Rockets would part with Capela.

Nene
Melo
Tucker
Harden
Paul
Bench scoring - Anderson and Gordon

IMO if we push for it we may be able to get Ariza, Capela. Wonder if the Rockets are enough under the cap where they can absorb the difference in salaries.

Capela
Porzingis
Ariza
Baker
Ntilikina

Two way starting 5 that can defend
Bench scoring - Hernangomez, Thomas, Lee.

That would be nice, but MDA isn't going to want Melo. Morey wool look like an idiot to fire the COY.
I think the rockets trade is DOA.

Maybe their hate for each other is overblown by know it all hater fans and the click fiending media?

MDA publicly said Melo went to Dolan with a "Its me or the coach" ultimatum. That isn't manufactured news. Melo can dictate what he wants all he likes, there's zero actual indication that the interest is mutual.

CrushAlot @ 7/3/2017 2:45 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:Wonder if the Rockets would part with Capela.

Nene
Melo
Tucker
Harden
Paul
Bench scoring - Anderson and Gordon

IMO if we push for it we may be able to get Ariza, Capela. Wonder if the Rockets are enough under the cap where they can absorb the difference in salaries.

Capela
Porzingis
Ariza
Baker
Ntilikina

Two way starting 5 that can defend
Bench scoring - Hernangomez, Thomas, Lee.

That would be nice, but MDA isn't going to want Melo. Morey wool look like an idiot to fire the COY.
I think the rockets trade is DOA.

Maybe their hate for each other is overblown by know it all hater fans and the click fiending media?

MDA publicly said Melo went to Dolan with a "Its me or the coach" ultimatum. That isn't manufactured news. Melo can dictate what he wants all he likes, there's zero actual indication that the interest is mutual.


I thought the story was that Dantoni went with the ultimatum. .
CrushAlot @ 7/3/2017 2:50 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:Wonder if the Rockets would part with Capela.

Nene
Melo
Tucker
Harden
Paul
Bench scoring - Anderson and Gordon

IMO if we push for it we may be able to get Ariza, Capela. Wonder if the Rockets are enough under the cap where they can absorb the difference in salaries.

Capela
Porzingis
Ariza
Baker
Ntilikina

Two way starting 5 that can defend
Bench scoring - Hernangomez, Thomas, Lee.

That would be nice, but MDA isn't going to want Melo. Morey wool look like an idiot to fire the COY.
I think the rockets trade is DOA.

Maybe their hate for each other is overblown by know it all hater fans and the click fiending media?

MDA publicly said Melo went to Dolan with a "Its me or the coach" ultimatum. That isn't manufactured news. Melo can dictate what he wants all he likes, there's zero actual indication that the interest is mutual.


I thought the story was that Dantoni went with the ultimatum. .

I just googled it and that is the current story. I thought he went to management and asked for Melo to be traded for DWill.
anrst @ 7/3/2017 2:57 PM
didn't MElo and MDA both take part in the last olympics together? so... they coulda made a truce, possibly...
knicks1248 @ 7/3/2017 3:35 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:Wonder if the Rockets would part with Capela.

Nene
Melo
Tucker
Harden
Paul
Bench scoring - Anderson and Gordon

IMO if we push for it we may be able to get Ariza, Capela. Wonder if the Rockets are enough under the cap where they can absorb the difference in salaries.

Capela
Porzingis
Ariza
Baker
Ntilikina

Two way starting 5 that can defend
Bench scoring - Hernangomez, Thomas, Lee.

That would be nice, but MDA isn't going to want Melo. Morey wool look like an idiot to fire the COY.
I think the rockets trade is DOA.

Maybe their hate for each other is overblown by know it all hater fans and the click fiending media?

MDA publicly said Melo went to Dolan with a "Its me or the coach" ultimatum. That isn't manufactured news. Melo can dictate what he wants all he likes, there's zero actual indication that the interest is mutual.


I thought the story was that Dantoni went with the ultimatum. .

I just googled it and that is the current story. I thought he went to management and asked for Melo to be traded for DWill.

Regardless to anything, Melo can not be traded to either team his camp requested, they know this. They have gotta be somewhere on a boat sipping champagne laughing their asses off. Two teams filled with veteran role players, no real draft picks, and longer contracts...what a joke..

Phil Knew a Buy out was the only way, and if he couldn't do that, it was either figure out a role on the teman for another year and half. Now mills takes over and is still beating a dead horse, pacing his office, and scratching his head..

They're other pressing matters, like a fckng PG who can take the pressure off your 18 yr old (all ready injured) french draft pick. A position that JH, KP, and the entire team needs desperately to have anything remotely call success.

smackeddog @ 7/4/2017 8:12 AM
If Melo waives his trade kicker, I think him for Frye, shumpert, Jefferson and Tavares or Felder works. That would be mainly a salary dump, but you could maybe move shumpert to Houston for whatever they were going to offer the cavs.
jrodmc @ 7/4/2017 12:48 PM
So the best we can hope for out of a Melo trade to either of Cle or Houston is some three team deal involving Boston, who hasn't had anything to do with our franchise since Walter McCarty. Channing Frye, Ariza, 900 year old fuhucking Jefferson...

Funny, hater fans want Melo gone so bad, they don't even promote the 'he should leave to go get a ring' line of Phil-logic anymore...

NardDogNation @ 7/4/2017 2:48 PM
smackeddog wrote:If Melo waives his trade kicker, I think him for Frye, shumpert, Jefferson and Tavares or Felder works. That would be mainly a salary dump, but you could maybe move shumpert to Houston for whatever they were going to offer the cavs.

Unfortunately it doesn't. I was brainstorming that very same idea (except I sent Frye to a team like the Nets) and the Cavs still fell short of the necessary salary needed to make it work. And then the issue also becomes the Rockets' inability to absorb salary after committing to PJ Tucker.

meloshouldgo @ 7/4/2017 4:54 PM
jrodmc wrote:So the best we can hope for out of a Melo trade to either of Cle or Houston is some three team deal involving Boston, who hasn't had anything to do with our franchise since Walter McCarty. Channing Frye, Ariza, 900 year old fuhucking Jefferson...

Funny, hater fans want Melo gone so bad, they don't even promote the 'he should leave to go get a ring' line of Phil-logic anymore...

Who the fukk cares about Melo getting a ring? We are knick fans (well most of us) that means we want what's best for the Knicks. For you its always about Melo but that's your problem.

smackeddog @ 7/6/2017 6:10 PM
So some obscure person on twitter is claiming three way talks between rockets knicks and blazers. No idea if true but it makes a lot of sense- melo to rockets, Anderson to blazers, and one or two of their contracts to us (I'd be happy taking a chance on Crabbe, but the rumour is Harkless and meyers Leonard
Knickoftime @ 7/6/2017 6:22 PM
smackeddog wrote:So some obscure person on twitter is claiming three way talks between rockets knicks and blazers. No idea if true but it makes a lot of sense- melo to rockets, Anderson to blazers, and one or two of their contracts to us (I'd be happy taking a chance on Crabbe, but the rumour is Harkless and meyers Leonard

Well, he isn't obscure, he's Jason Kidd's son, but that doesn't speak to the credibility.

jrodmc @ 7/8/2017 3:05 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
jrodmc wrote:So the best we can hope for out of a Melo trade to either of Cle or Houston is some three team deal involving Boston, who hasn't had anything to do with our franchise since Walter McCarty. Channing Frye, Ariza, 900 year old fuhucking Jefferson...

Funny, hater fans want Melo gone so bad, they don't even promote the 'he should leave to go get a ring' line of Phil-logic anymore...

Who the fukk cares about Melo getting a ring? We are knick fans (well most of us) that means we want what's best for the Knicks. For you its always about Melo but that's your problem.


Look boys and girls, I'm being lectured about Melomania by someone not quite bright enough to read his own login name...

Dude, if you'd bother to read instead of just instantly hate post, you might have noticed the "trade Melo - God I hope he waives that dammed NTC" threads had more than a smattering of mentions of Phil's 'Melo should go somewhere else in order to contend..."

Yes, I know, all knick fans (well at least some of them) should hate at least one knick player...

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