Off Topic · Off Topic: six months later, do people who voted for Trump still support this guy? (page 69)

meloshouldgo @ 10/14/2017 12:22 PM
TPercy wrote:I'm not going to lie to you: I was caught dead in the middle between voting trump or going third party and when the recordings came out that definitely decided it for me. However, at the end of the day all characters have flaws, regardless of the degree of those flaws. Does putting that man in office mean that they were okay with it?

I think it does. If you vote for someone while being fully aware of their flaws then you have rationalized that person's faults away. And you have accepted that whatever s/he brings to the table makes up for the weaknesses. So yes essentially in the balance they are ok with it

smackeddog @ 10/14/2017 1:05 PM
TPercy wrote:I'm not going to lie to you: I was caught dead in the middle between voting trump or going third party and when the recordings came out that definitely decided it for me. However, at the end of the day all characters have flaws, regardless of the degree of those flaws. Does putting that man in office mean that they were okay with it?

Sexually assaulting women and thinking it's okay is beyond a character flaw for me. I work with kids (as well as women and men) who have been sexually assaulted or abused and having Trump made president even after he was exposed as sexually assaulting women sent out a horrific message.

nixluva @ 10/14/2017 1:36 PM
Seems Trump is not the President of the entire United States! He's totally ignoring parts of the country he feels aren't on his team! SMDH!

meloshouldgo @ 10/14/2017 4:31 PM
nixluva @ 10/14/2017 8:22 PM
TPercy @ 10/14/2017 10:54 PM
smackeddog wrote:
TPercy wrote:I'm not going to lie to you: I was caught dead in the middle between voting trump or going third party and when the recordings came out that definitely decided it for me. However, at the end of the day all characters have flaws, regardless of the degree of those flaws. Does putting that man in office mean that they were okay with it?

Sexually assaulting women and thinking it's okay is beyond a character flaw for me. I work with kids (as well as women and men) who have been sexually assaulted or abused and having Trump made president even after he was exposed as sexually assaulting women sent out a horrific message.


@Knickoftime. It is a flaw on the candidate. It might be a far worse flaw than Obama inhaling substances but nevertheless it is a flaw.

Also, I've only been alive for a certain number of years, so I can't speak as to whether "Rationalizing" sexual assualt is now a new norm. Its irrelevant nevertheless and dosen't change my opinion whether or not its true.

arkrud @ 10/14/2017 11:10 PM
TPercy wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
TPercy wrote:I'm not going to lie to you: I was caught dead in the middle between voting trump or going third party and when the recordings came out that definitely decided it for me. However, at the end of the day all characters have flaws, regardless of the degree of those flaws. Does putting that man in office mean that they were okay with it?

Sexually assaulting women and thinking it's okay is beyond a character flaw for me. I work with kids (as well as women and men) who have been sexually assaulted or abused and having Trump made president even after he was exposed as sexually assaulting women sent out a horrific message.


@Knickoftime. It is a flaw on the candidate. It might be a far worse flaw than Obama inhaling substances but nevertheless it is a flaw.

Also, I've only been alive for a certain number of years, so I can't speak as to whether "Rationalizing" sexual assualt is now a new norm. Its irrelevant nevertheless and dosen't change my opinion whether or not its true.

Sexually assaulting women or man is bad. And juts assaulting anyone is equally bad.
The problem is that some primitive man think that sexually assaulting women is something women like and so it is normal.
Not so many people in the world move far enough from primitive tribal cultures even if they reside in civilized country.
But when you see the caveman, it is clear, its a caveman...

nixluva @ 10/14/2017 11:59 PM
TPercy @ 10/15/2017 12:57 AM
Also we throw around the term sexual assault way too losely. For sexual assault to be true there must be coercion and there is zero hard evidence of that. What he described on those tapes was sexual misconduct which is still morally awful but far from sexual assault. Truth matters and Trump isn't on the same wavelength as Harvey.( though I wouldn't be surprised if there is more evidence yet to surface of trump admitting to sexual assault)
nixluva @ 10/15/2017 2:08 AM
Trump never even mentions the Cali Fires!

TheGame @ 10/15/2017 11:00 AM
nixluva wrote:Trump never even mentions the Cali Fires!

California did not vote for him, so as far as he is concerned that state does not matter.

nixluva @ 10/15/2017 12:42 PM
TheGame wrote:
nixluva wrote:Trump never even mentions the Cali Fires!

California did not vote for him, so as far as he is concerned that state does not matter.

I just can't STAND Trump anymore! . This man is a disgrace to the Office and is literally eroding the unity of the country. Can't imagine a more PETTY and VINDICTIVE person to have as President. He's toying with people's LIVES!

nixluva @ 10/15/2017 2:06 PM
djsunyc @ 10/15/2017 2:40 PM
arkrud @ 10/15/2017 7:57 PM
djsunyc wrote:

Sport is good or you man.
Its logical. Black president - basketball, white president - golf, Jewish president - chess.

arkrud @ 10/15/2017 7:58 PM
nixluva wrote:
TheGame wrote:
nixluva wrote:Trump never even mentions the Cali Fires!

California did not vote for him, so as far as he is concerned that state does not matter.

I just can't STAND Trump anymore! . This man is a disgrace to the Office and is literally eroding the unity of the country. Can't imagine a more PETTY and VINDICTIVE person to have as President. He's toying with people's LIVES!

Man, he is getting to you.
How this man deserve that you losing you health and well being by hating him.
Stop wasting yourself for nothing.

nixluva @ 10/15/2017 9:37 PM
arkrud wrote:
nixluva wrote:
TheGame wrote:
nixluva wrote:Trump never even mentions the Cali Fires!

California did not vote for him, so as far as he is concerned that state does not matter.

I just can't STAND Trump anymore! . This man is a disgrace to the Office and is literally eroding the unity of the country. Can't imagine a more PETTY and VINDICTIVE person to have as President. He's toying with people's LIVES!

Man, he is getting to you.
How this man deserve that you losing you health and well being by hating him.
Stop wasting yourself for nothing.

I've got a family that I'm the Patriarch of! He's a dangerous man in charge of things that effect all of our lives. Of course I care what he does. Are you a father or grandfather? If so I can't imagine you aren't concerned with the actions of Trump and how they can negatively impact your children.

arkrud @ 10/15/2017 10:05 PM
nixluva wrote:
arkrud wrote:
nixluva wrote:
TheGame wrote:
nixluva wrote:Trump never even mentions the Cali Fires!

California did not vote for him, so as far as he is concerned that state does not matter.

I just can't STAND Trump anymore! . This man is a disgrace to the Office and is literally eroding the unity of the country. Can't imagine a more PETTY and VINDICTIVE person to have as President. He's toying with people's LIVES!

Man, he is getting to you.
How this man deserve that you losing you health and well being by hating him.
Stop wasting yourself for nothing.

I've got a family that I'm the Patriarch of! He's a dangerous man in charge of things that effect all of our lives. Of course I care what he does. Are you a father or grandfather? If so I can't imagine you aren't concerned with the actions of Trump and how they can negatively impact your children.

Hate is not helping in combating wrong things. It increasing the problems rather that helping to resolve them.
I prefer to wonder about what is going on instead of becoming agitated, upset, and angry.
This helps to solve the problems and take the best possible path of actions.
Trump is an agitator. He wants you to react, to get hooked, he wants to take you out of balance.
Just let him clown as he wish. He is empty and his presidency will produce big fat nothing.
Unless people will overreact and let the situation slide into some bloody mess.
Relax and watch him destroy himself rather that helping him by unnecessary attention.
Everything that we resist persists. Just let it go and this hook he put into you mind will disappear.

nixluva @ 10/15/2017 10:09 PM
Most Americans are totally unaware of the money and influence from Robert Mercer the money man behind Trump, Bretbart etc. People think it's a joke or paranoia when talking about powerful White men who are actively working against minorities but THE MAN exists. Mercer is one of them.



nixluva @ 10/16/2017 3:28 PM
arkrud wrote:
nixluva wrote:
arkrud wrote:
nixluva wrote:
TheGame wrote:
nixluva wrote:Trump never even mentions the Cali Fires!

California did not vote for him, so as far as he is concerned that state does not matter.

I just can't STAND Trump anymore! . This man is a disgrace to the Office and is literally eroding the unity of the country. Can't imagine a more PETTY and VINDICTIVE person to have as President. He's toying with people's LIVES!

Man, he is getting to you.
How this man deserve that you losing you health and well being by hating him.
Stop wasting yourself for nothing.

I've got a family that I'm the Patriarch of! He's a dangerous man in charge of things that effect all of our lives. Of course I care what he does. Are you a father or grandfather? If so I can't imagine you aren't concerned with the actions of Trump and how they can negatively impact your children.

Hate is not helping in combating wrong things. It increasing the problems rather that helping to resolve them.
I prefer to wonder about what is going on instead of becoming agitated, upset, and angry.
This helps to solve the problems and take the best possible path of actions.
Trump is an agitator. He wants you to react, to get hooked, he wants to take you out of balance.
Just let him clown as he wish. He is empty and his presidency will produce big fat nothing.
Unless people will overreact and let the situation slide into some bloody mess.
Relax and watch him destroy himself rather that helping him by unnecessary attention.
Everything that we resist persists. Just let it go and this hook he put into you mind will disappear.

I honestly don't think you understand how all this works. Ignoring Trump who is PRESIDENT of the United States is the Wrong approach IMO. How does that stop him from wrecking things or creating the pretense for War?

The problem isn't just that he agitates. Trump is doing things that actually impact people's lives negatively. Perhaps you aren't affected by what Trump is doing but MANY Americans are being impacted.

nixluva @ 10/16/2017 5:33 PM
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