GustavBahler wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:On Kyrie's Snapchat or something...he grew up in West Orange, NJ.Hmmm...it could be just that he is on his way back from China....OR....
Is he traveling to NJ?
LOl...probably...interesting though if he ends up a Knick.
im not giving up frank in a deal.
cle can take melo and a first rounder. enjoy.
anrst wrote:im not giving up frank in a deal. cle can take melo and a first rounder. enjoy.
I don't think we are, I think it's melo and first's ... I don't get this melo only wants Houston , he has a eto for next season, he can ring chase with lebron and then they can both go to Houston next year and dethrone the warriors together
fitzfarm wrote:anrst wrote:im not giving up frank in a deal. cle can take melo and a first rounder. enjoy.
I don't think we are, I think it's melo and first's ... I don't get this melo only wants Houston , he has a eto for next season, he can ring chase with lebron and then they can both go to Houston next year and dethrone the warriors together
I don't want to trade any first round picks or Frank for player that doesn't fit with an offense centered around Porzingis
I don't want to trade for him, but I do think we're Clevelands best option- our draft picks would be higher than a lot of teams because we will likely be a poor team. We can give them melo, a good short term player which would appease LeBron for this season. Also we can take back a bad salary from them. Not many teams can offer a high pick, great short term player to appease LeBron and take back a bad salary.
Thankfully melo won't agree to it,
meloshouldgo wrote:fitzfarm wrote:anrst wrote:im not giving up frank in a deal. cle can take melo and a first rounder. enjoy.
I don't think we are, I think it's melo and first's ... I don't get this melo only wants Houston , he has a eto for next season, he can ring chase with lebron and then they can both go to Houston next year and dethrone the warriors together
I don't want to trade any first round picks or Frank for player that doesn't fit with an offense centered around Porzingis
i have heard SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many media members saying 'why would melo go to clev when he'll be stuck there for another year after lebron leaves'
do your homework!
i bet hernangomez goes with melo and a pick
we'll get back kyrie and a bad contract.
anrst wrote:im not giving up frank in a deal. cle can take melo and a first rounder. enjoy.
bye frank, see ya when your ready.
If we had a rondo, or hill a legit vet to start, I would say hold on to frank. Without that, he is going play 3 yrs of losing basketball, then get traded when we develop him.
I really want to see the kid play before trading him, but kyrie is ready, young, and will attract big time FA
Frank has signed his rookie deal. I don't believe he can be traded until December. I hope that is the case.
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Frank has signed his rookie deal. I don't believe he can be traded until December. I hope that is the case.
Free agents are the December timeline while rookie deals are 30 days.
knicks1248 wrote:anrst wrote:im not giving up frank in a deal. cle can take melo and a first rounder. enjoy.
bye frank, see ya when your ready.
If we had a rondo, or hill a legit vet to start, I would say hold on to frank. Without that, he is going play 3 yrs of losing basketball, then get traded when we develop him.
I really want to see the kid play before trading him, but kyrie is ready, young, and will attract big time FA
Who are these big time free agents and how will you sign them without the required cap space?
smackeddog wrote:knicks1248 wrote:anrst wrote:im not giving up frank in a deal. cle can take melo and a first rounder. enjoy.
bye frank, see ya when your ready.
If we had a rondo, or hill a legit vet to start, I would say hold on to frank. Without that, he is going play 3 yrs of losing basketball, then get traded when we develop him.
I really want to see the kid play before trading him, but kyrie is ready, young, and will attract big time FA
Who are these big time free agents and how will you sign them without the required cap space?
Your own FA for starters. Maybe you don't quite understand the difference between winning and losing.
Losing- dysfunction, misery, frustration, players value decrease, drastic changes, people get fired, poor development, you end up trading the same players you're developing
Winning- fun,attractive, brings value to players, continuity, chemistry, developing good habits, low roster turnover, better coaching.
Absolutely nothing good happens for anyone when you put a BS young ass, unbalance team on the floor without the proper veterans, coaching and system, and that's in any line of business.
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Frank has signed his rookie deal. I don't believe he can be traded until December. I hope that is the case.
Trading Frank would be so typical of previous Knick blunders from the past. We'd be reliving the Melo acquisition deal all over again except for the fact that Kyrie is shorter and a ball-hogging point guard. Let's not sacrifice our bright future for a quick fix. I miss Phil already.
reub wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Frank has signed his rookie deal. I don't believe he can be traded until December. I hope that is the case.
Trading Frank would be so typical of previous Knick blunders from the past. We'd be reliving the Melo acquisition deal all over again except for the fact that Kyrie is shorter and a ball-hogging point guard. Let's not sacrifice our bright future for a quick fix. I miss Phil already.
Refresh my memory.
Who turned out really good in the melo deal?
Knickoftime wrote:reub wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Frank has signed his rookie deal. I don't believe he can be traded until December. I hope that is the case.
Trading Frank would be so typical of previous Knick blunders from the past. We'd be reliving the Melo acquisition deal all over again except for the fact that Kyrie is shorter and a ball-hogging point guard. Let's not sacrifice our bright future for a quick fix. I miss Phil already.
Refresh my memory.
Who turned out really good in the melo deal?
Definitely no one that the Knicks got
Knickoftime wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Knickoftime wrote:reub wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Frank has signed his rookie deal. I don't believe he can be traded until December. I hope that is the case.
Trading Frank would be so typical of previous Knick blunders from the past. We'd be reliving the Melo acquisition deal all over again except for the fact that Kyrie is shorter and a ball-hogging point guard. Let's not sacrifice our bright future for a quick fix. I miss Phil already.
Refresh my memory.
Who turned out really good in the melo deal?
Definitely no one that the Knicks got
Okay.
Who'd Denver get?
I'd rather have kept the draft picks (we didn't have to draft the same players Denver did) and cap space spent on Melo. I think Gallo when healthy helps his team more than Melo but sadly health has been a big problem for him. But if you want to argue both teams lost the trade, that's understandable.
The pieces Denver got were all worse than Melo. With that said, maybe if we showed a little patience, we could have kept those pieces then sign Melo over the Summer. If Melo was that desperate to come here, he could have done it. Instead, we let him and Denver force our hamds because we had no sense of business. Those picks could have all been used in a better trade than Melo. The Melo era led the team to 2 coaches getting fired and a second round exit. It's not necessarily his fault but because of his game and contract, we had zero chance to build a team around him.
Allanfan20 wrote:The pieces Denver got were all worse than Melo. With that said, maybe if we showed a little patience, we could have kept those pieces then sign Melo over the Summer.
As always, no. The salary cap would have prevented that.
Those picks could have all been used in a better trade than Melo.
Pick.
