HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.
They should do what any respected professional franchise would do. Move on by taking the hit for signing him to a NTC and changing directions. All respectable businesses know they have to pay the price for a mistake. They take it like men and move on. Specially after the previous Prez trashed him. But most Knick fans want to keep acting like this is a middle school team and they can force players to do anything they want even after screwing them. What are the long term repercussions of being a unprofessional franchise? Clue...look at the Knicks. Would hate to do business with that type of mindset. Mills hits me as that type as well. Reason why I think the Knicks are not any closer to being a respectable franchise. We have the same slimy guys at the top. Luckily for Melo, he has all the power and will win out by forcing the back stabbing front office to deal him to a place that is best for him.
Btw Briggs...do you expect people you screw over and trash publicly, to help you out? Where does this thinking come from? Why would Melo help the Knicks out? For fans like you that would throw a player to the gutter for yiurniwn selfish interest? I know I wouldn't. And dedinately would not waive my trade kicker.
Melo is being ridiculous with giving only ONE OPTION so F Melo! Let him stay until we can get a better deal for the franchise.
You don't know if Mills is slimy and actually many of the old Front Office guys have good reputations. The narrative you've bought into is mostly Media Driven and there are lots of agendas behind that. Melo would be gone already if not for his ridiculous stance of only one destination.
Contrary to your and Melo's belief he does not hold all the cards because the Knicks don't have to trade him. Taking on a bad contract is more detrimental than Melo's presence next season would be!
nixluva wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.
They should do what any respected professional franchise would do. Move on by taking the hit for signing him to a NTC and changing directions. All respectable businesses know they have to pay the price for a mistake. They take it like men and move on. Specially after the previous Prez trashed him. But most Knick fans want to keep acting like this is a middle school team and they can force players to do anything they want even after screwing them. What are the long term repercussions of being a unprofessional franchise? Clue...look at the Knicks. Would hate to do business with that type of mindset. Mills hits me as that type as well. Reason why I think the Knicks are not any closer to being a respectable franchise. We have the same slimy guys at the top. Luckily for Melo, he has all the power and will win out by forcing the back stabbing front office to deal him to a place that is best for him.
Btw Briggs...do you expect people you screw over and trash publicly, to help you out? Where does this thinking come from? Why would Melo help the Knicks out? For fans like you that would throw a player to the gutter for yiurniwn selfish interest? I know I wouldn't. And dedinately would not waive my trade kicker.
Melo is being ridiculous with giving only ONE OPTION so F Melo! Let him stay until we can get a better deal for the franchise.
You don't know if Mills is slimy and actually many of the old Front Office guys have good reputations. The narrative you've bought into is mostly Media Driven and there are lots of agendas behind that. Melo would be gone already if not for his ridiculous stance of only one destination.
Contrary to your and Melo's belief he does not hold all the cards because the Knicks don't have to trade him. Taking on a bad contract is more detrimental than Melo's presence next season would be!
Phil and Dolan were ridiculous when they gave him this contract. Melo gave us 1 more team than he has to.
CrushAlot wrote:knicks1248 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.
so keeping the player that was voted "best teammate" (by his teammates) away from the team should do the trick..smh
He also was team captain last year, was the guy that held offseason workouts, and is a vp of the player's association. I don't understand the desire to punish a guy because he is exercising the NTC that was given him. I don't know how that would fly with the league office and the player's association. It also would be a really bad look for the Knicks as an organization and the Knicks need to repair their image around the league not make it worse.
Crush--this happens a lot in sports. We gave him a NTC--yep. But Im guessing that by what various members of Knicks management did and did not day(positively)about Melo--that they do not want him as part of the team. Melo expressed that he would be open to a trade. Hes got to be fair and open that up to 4-5 teams. I think that is fair. If not--the Knicks can simply UP th ante by not including him. Players wont see anything--NY is still a great destination. The guy's making 25mm+ he can open it up so we can do a deal OR he can sit home and collect checks.
Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.
They should do what any respected professional franchise would do. Move on by taking the hit for signing him to a NTC and changing directions. All respectable businesses know they have to pay the price for a mistake. They take it like men and move on. Specially after the previous Prez trashed him. But most Knick fans want to keep acting like this is a middle school team and they can force players to do anything they want even after screwing them. What are the long term repercussions of being a unprofessional franchise? Clue...look at the Knicks. Would hate to do business with that type of mindset. Mills hits me as that type as well. Reason why I think the Knicks are not any closer to being a respectable franchise. We have the same slimy guys at the top. Luckily for Melo, he has all the power and will win out by forcing the back stabbing front office to deal him to a place that is best for him.
Btw Briggs...do you expect people you screw over and trash publicly, to help you out? Where does this thinking come from? Why would Melo help the Knicks out? For fans like you that would throw a player to the gutter for yiurniwn selfish interest? I know I wouldn't. And dedinately would not waive my trade kicker.
Melo is being ridiculous with giving only ONE OPTION so F Melo! Let him stay until we can get a better deal for the franchise.
You don't know if Mills is slimy and actually many of the old Front Office guys have good reputations. The narrative you've bought into is mostly Media Driven and there are lots of agendas behind that. Melo would be gone already if not for his ridiculous stance of only one destination.
Contrary to your and Melo's belief he does not hold all the cards because the Knicks don't have to trade him. Taking on a bad contract is more detrimental than Melo's presence next season would be!
Phil and Dolan were ridiculous when they gave him this contract. Melo gave us 1 more team than he has to.
If Melo like it here in NY he can stay one more season and add more losing to his losing resume.
He may became biggest loser of all great hole-of-fame NBA stars!!!
arkrud wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.
They should do what any respected professional franchise would do. Move on by taking the hit for signing him to a NTC and changing directions. All respectable businesses know they have to pay the price for a mistake. They take it like men and move on. Specially after the previous Prez trashed him. But most Knick fans want to keep acting like this is a middle school team and they can force players to do anything they want even after screwing them. What are the long term repercussions of being a unprofessional franchise? Clue...look at the Knicks. Would hate to do business with that type of mindset. Mills hits me as that type as well. Reason why I think the Knicks are not any closer to being a respectable franchise. We have the same slimy guys at the top. Luckily for Melo, he has all the power and will win out by forcing the back stabbing front office to deal him to a place that is best for him.
Btw Briggs...do you expect people you screw over and trash publicly, to help you out? Where does this thinking come from? Why would Melo help the Knicks out? For fans like you that would throw a player to the gutter for yiurniwn selfish interest? I know I wouldn't. And dedinately would not waive my trade kicker.
Melo is being ridiculous with giving only ONE OPTION so F Melo! Let him stay until we can get a better deal for the franchise.
You don't know if Mills is slimy and actually many of the old Front Office guys have good reputations. The narrative you've bought into is mostly Media Driven and there are lots of agendas behind that. Melo would be gone already if not for his ridiculous stance of only one destination.
Contrary to your and Melo's belief he does not hold all the cards because the Knicks don't have to trade him. Taking on a bad contract is more detrimental than Melo's presence next season would be!
Phil and Dolan were ridiculous when they gave him this contract. Melo gave us 1 more team than he has to.
If Melo like it here in NY he can stay one more season and add more losing to his losing resume.
He may became biggest loser of all great hole-of-fame NBA stars!!!
I'm gonna guess that for most people where they live is more important than the company they work for as long as their job is stable. I work for an employer that is about average at what it does. No way I would move just to be with a better employer.
Next season is one season. It's no going to define Melo's career anyway.
BRIGGS wrote:CrushAlot wrote:knicks1248 wrote:BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.
so keeping the player that was voted "best teammate" (by his teammates) away from the team should do the trick..smh
He also was team captain last year, was the guy that held offseason workouts, and is a vp of the player's association. I don't understand the desire to punish a guy because he is exercising the NTC that was given him. I don't know how that would fly with the league office and the player's association. It also would be a really bad look for the Knicks as an organization and the Knicks need to repair their image around the league not make it worse.
Crush--this happens a lot in sports. We gave him a NTC--yep. But Im guessing that by what various members of Knicks management did and did not day(positively)about Melo--that they do not want him as part of the team. Melo expressed that he would be open to a trade. Hes got to be fair and open that up to 4-5 teams. I think that is fair. If not--the Knicks can simply UP th ante by not including him. Players wont see anything--NY is still a great destination. The guy's making 25mm+ he can open it up so we can do a deal OR he can sit home and collect checks.
So by making him stay home, Melo's going to magically bring back something better than Ryan Anderson's tired contract and/or some other pile of steaming sheehit that will set the franchise forward? No, keeping him home lowers his trade value, and is a petty little grade school recess way of dealing with things. Play the games, eff tanking and see if KP, Willy, Frank and Butler can actually win some games, with or without Melo.
I've never understood this piss in your own oatmeal worlview of some fans. Let's not really tank, but lets start KP who obviously hasn't proven he's an NBA lead role guy yet, Willy who was -131 or something total as a starter last year, Butler, who's at best proven to be a capable backup PG, THJr. who could turn out to be this regime's Jerome James contract, and an unproven Euro teenager with great empty gym highlights. Add some flotsam, mix, shake, stir. Voila! We're going to just miss the playoffs and still get a sleeper in the draft! And that will make KP want to stay here!
You people need Melo. You want Melo. You need him standing on that wall! 
Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.
They should do what any respected professional franchise would do. Move on by taking the hit for signing him to a NTC and changing directions. All respectable businesses know they have to pay the price for a mistake. They take it like men and move on. Specially after the previous Prez trashed him. But most Knick fans want to keep acting like this is a middle school team and they can force players to do anything they want even after screwing them. What are the long term repercussions of being a unprofessional franchise? Clue...look at the Knicks. Would hate to do business with that type of mindset. Mills hits me as that type as well. Reason why I think the Knicks are not any closer to being a respectable franchise. We have the same slimy guys at the top. Luckily for Melo, he has all the power and will win out by forcing the back stabbing front office to deal him to a place that is best for him.
Btw Briggs...do you expect people you screw over and trash publicly, to help you out? Where does this thinking come from? Why would Melo help the Knicks out? For fans like you that would throw a player to the gutter for yiurniwn selfish interest? I know I wouldn't. And dedinately would not waive my trade kicker.
Melo is being ridiculous with giving only ONE OPTION so F Melo! Let him stay until we can get a better deal for the franchise.
You don't know if Mills is slimy and actually many of the old Front Office guys have good reputations. The narrative you've bought into is mostly Media Driven and there are lots of agendas behind that. Melo would be gone already if not for his ridiculous stance of only one destination.
Contrary to your and Melo's belief he does not hold all the cards because the Knicks don't have to trade him. Taking on a bad contract is more detrimental than Melo's presence next season would be!
Phil and Dolan were ridiculous when they gave him this contract. Melo gave us 1 more team than he has to.
Following that train of thought, the Knicks are not obligated to trade Melo because he wants to be elsewhere. The team may have erred in giving him a NTC, but Melo also erred in signing it. They are BOTH committed to each other for four years, with the fifth year being an opt out year. If Melo's desire is to be elsewhere AND take the money, he too will need to be more creative.
meloshouldgo wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Nalod wrote:BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.
How does this increase his value?
Melo's value is what its always been ever since he came into the league. Everyone has known for a long time what his value is, except only now he is older. He's a talented yet inefficient volume scorer who is still capable of 30 point nights and occasionally hit big shots with some dazzle with practically no defensive effort.
There's no such thing as increasing or decreasing his value anymore. It stopped a long time ago. These media idiots who constantly harp on his "value" have 0 idea what they're talking about.
Completely agree
I don't get it either, there are hours of tape from last season that paints who and what he does.
Its not like Phils words some how lowered his value given he has a NTC.
If he wants to be traded he can give us a list. He does not want to be traded. We don't have leverage.
But, we don't have to trade him. We don't have to play him. We just have to pay him.
If he wants a buy out to resume his career, he can get one. If he wants his money, we are his ATM machine.
Knicks don't want Ryan Anderson. Might as well keep melo.
Sangfroid wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.
They should do what any respected professional franchise would do. Move on by taking the hit for signing him to a NTC and changing directions. All respectable businesses know they have to pay the price for a mistake. They take it like men and move on. Specially after the previous Prez trashed him. But most Knick fans want to keep acting like this is a middle school team and they can force players to do anything they want even after screwing them. What are the long term repercussions of being a unprofessional franchise? Clue...look at the Knicks. Would hate to do business with that type of mindset. Mills hits me as that type as well. Reason why I think the Knicks are not any closer to being a respectable franchise. We have the same slimy guys at the top. Luckily for Melo, he has all the power and will win out by forcing the back stabbing front office to deal him to a place that is best for him.
Btw Briggs...do you expect people you screw over and trash publicly, to help you out? Where does this thinking come from? Why would Melo help the Knicks out? For fans like you that would throw a player to the gutter for yiurniwn selfish interest? I know I wouldn't. And dedinately would not waive my trade kicker.
Melo is being ridiculous with giving only ONE OPTION so F Melo! Let him stay until we can get a better deal for the franchise.
You don't know if Mills is slimy and actually many of the old Front Office guys have good reputations. The narrative you've bought into is mostly Media Driven and there are lots of agendas behind that. Melo would be gone already if not for his ridiculous stance of only one destination.
Contrary to your and Melo's belief he does not hold all the cards because the Knicks don't have to trade him. Taking on a bad contract is more detrimental than Melo's presence next season would be!
Phil and Dolan were ridiculous when they gave him this contract. Melo gave us 1 more team than he has to.
Following that train of thought, the Knicks are not obligated to trade Melo because he wants to be elsewhere. The team may have erred in giving him a NTC, but Melo also erred in signing it. They are BOTH committed to each other for four years, with the fifth year being an opt out year. If Melo's desire is to be elsewhere AND take the money, he too will need to be more creative.
Melo didn't err in signing it. It gives him the power to determine which teams he can be traded to. You're right we don't have to trade him. No team has to trade any player. Given everything that's transpired, it seems like a bad idea for us to bring him back but we are free to make bad decisions.
Bonn1997 wrote:Sangfroid wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.
They should do what any respected professional franchise would do. Move on by taking the hit for signing him to a NTC and changing directions. All respectable businesses know they have to pay the price for a mistake. They take it like men and move on. Specially after the previous Prez trashed him. But most Knick fans want to keep acting like this is a middle school team and they can force players to do anything they want even after screwing them. What are the long term repercussions of being a unprofessional franchise? Clue...look at the Knicks. Would hate to do business with that type of mindset. Mills hits me as that type as well. Reason why I think the Knicks are not any closer to being a respectable franchise. We have the same slimy guys at the top. Luckily for Melo, he has all the power and will win out by forcing the back stabbing front office to deal him to a place that is best for him.
Btw Briggs...do you expect people you screw over and trash publicly, to help you out? Where does this thinking come from? Why would Melo help the Knicks out? For fans like you that would throw a player to the gutter for yiurniwn selfish interest? I know I wouldn't. And dedinately would not waive my trade kicker.
Melo is being ridiculous with giving only ONE OPTION so F Melo! Let him stay until we can get a better deal for the franchise.
You don't know if Mills is slimy and actually many of the old Front Office guys have good reputations. The narrative you've bought into is mostly Media Driven and there are lots of agendas behind that. Melo would be gone already if not for his ridiculous stance of only one destination.
Contrary to your and Melo's belief he does not hold all the cards because the Knicks don't have to trade him. Taking on a bad contract is more detrimental than Melo's presence next season would be!
Phil and Dolan were ridiculous when they gave him this contract. Melo gave us 1 more team than he has to.
Following that train of thought, the Knicks are not obligated to trade Melo because he wants to be elsewhere. The team may have erred in giving him a NTC, but Melo also erred in signing it. They are BOTH committed to each other for four years, with the fifth year being an opt out year. If Melo's desire is to be elsewhere AND take the money, he too will need to be more creative.
Melo didn't err in signing it. It gives him the power to determine which teams he can be traded to. You're right we don't have to trade him. No team has to trade any player. Given everything that's transpired, it seems like a bad idea for us to bring him back but we are free to make bad decisions.
Melo doesn't have to go he has a NTC. NTC doesn't give the right for playing time that is at team's discretion. Personally I agree instead of bringing back bad contract just limit his minutes. If he doesn't like it he can opt out, if he doesn't mind the limited role he can finish out his contract.
Bonn1997 wrote:arkrud wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.
They should do what any respected professional franchise would do. Move on by taking the hit for signing him to a NTC and changing directions. All respectable businesses know they have to pay the price for a mistake. They take it like men and move on. Specially after the previous Prez trashed him. But most Knick fans want to keep acting like this is a middle school team and they can force players to do anything they want even after screwing them. What are the long term repercussions of being a unprofessional franchise? Clue...look at the Knicks. Would hate to do business with that type of mindset. Mills hits me as that type as well. Reason why I think the Knicks are not any closer to being a respectable franchise. We have the same slimy guys at the top. Luckily for Melo, he has all the power and will win out by forcing the back stabbing front office to deal him to a place that is best for him.
Btw Briggs...do you expect people you screw over and trash publicly, to help you out? Where does this thinking come from? Why would Melo help the Knicks out? For fans like you that would throw a player to the gutter for yiurniwn selfish interest? I know I wouldn't. And dedinately would not waive my trade kicker.
Melo is being ridiculous with giving only ONE OPTION so F Melo! Let him stay until we can get a better deal for the franchise.
You don't know if Mills is slimy and actually many of the old Front Office guys have good reputations. The narrative you've bought into is mostly Media Driven and there are lots of agendas behind that. Melo would be gone already if not for his ridiculous stance of only one destination.
Contrary to your and Melo's belief he does not hold all the cards because the Knicks don't have to trade him. Taking on a bad contract is more detrimental than Melo's presence next season would be!
Phil and Dolan were ridiculous when they gave him this contract. Melo gave us 1 more team than he has to.
If Melo like it here in NY he can stay one more season and add more losing to his losing resume.
He may became biggest loser of all great hole-of-fame NBA stars!!!
I'm gonna guess that for most people where they live is more important than the company they work for as long as their job is stable. I work for an employer that is about average at what it does. No way I would move just to be with a better employer.
Next season is one season. It's no going to define Melo's career anyway.
But he definitely belongs in the "hole of fame".
Bonn1997 wrote:Sangfroid wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.
They should do what any respected professional franchise would do. Move on by taking the hit for signing him to a NTC and changing directions. All respectable businesses know they have to pay the price for a mistake. They take it like men and move on. Specially after the previous Prez trashed him. But most Knick fans want to keep acting like this is a middle school team and they can force players to do anything they want even after screwing them. What are the long term repercussions of being a unprofessional franchise? Clue...look at the Knicks. Would hate to do business with that type of mindset. Mills hits me as that type as well. Reason why I think the Knicks are not any closer to being a respectable franchise. We have the same slimy guys at the top. Luckily for Melo, he has all the power and will win out by forcing the back stabbing front office to deal him to a place that is best for him.
Btw Briggs...do you expect people you screw over and trash publicly, to help you out? Where does this thinking come from? Why would Melo help the Knicks out? For fans like you that would throw a player to the gutter for yiurniwn selfish interest? I know I wouldn't. And dedinately would not waive my trade kicker.
Melo is being ridiculous with giving only ONE OPTION so F Melo! Let him stay until we can get a better deal for the franchise.
You don't know if Mills is slimy and actually many of the old Front Office guys have good reputations. The narrative you've bought into is mostly Media Driven and there are lots of agendas behind that. Melo would be gone already if not for his ridiculous stance of only one destination.
Contrary to your and Melo's belief he does not hold all the cards because the Knicks don't have to trade him. Taking on a bad contract is more detrimental than Melo's presence next season would be!
Phil and Dolan were ridiculous when they gave him this contract. Melo gave us 1 more team than he has to.
Following that train of thought, the Knicks are not obligated to trade Melo because he wants to be elsewhere. The team may have erred in giving him a NTC, but Melo also erred in signing it. They are BOTH committed to each other for four years, with the fifth year being an opt out year. If Melo's desire is to be elsewhere AND take the money, he too will need to be more creative.
Melo didn't err in signing it. It gives him the power to determine which teams he can be traded to. You're right we don't have to trade him. No team has to trade any player. Given everything that's transpired, it seems like a bad idea for us to bring him back but we are free to make bad decisions.
We don't have to trade or bring him back. We can pay him and just ask him to take the next season off, send him on a sabbatical to China or better yet Afghanistan. He can be an ambassador for the NBA are Dolans's expense. Even Silver can't turn that down
meloshouldgo wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:arkrud wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.
They should do what any respected professional franchise would do. Move on by taking the hit for signing him to a NTC and changing directions. All respectable businesses know they have to pay the price for a mistake. They take it like men and move on. Specially after the previous Prez trashed him. But most Knick fans want to keep acting like this is a middle school team and they can force players to do anything they want even after screwing them. What are the long term repercussions of being a unprofessional franchise? Clue...look at the Knicks. Would hate to do business with that type of mindset. Mills hits me as that type as well. Reason why I think the Knicks are not any closer to being a respectable franchise. We have the same slimy guys at the top. Luckily for Melo, he has all the power and will win out by forcing the back stabbing front office to deal him to a place that is best for him.
Btw Briggs...do you expect people you screw over and trash publicly, to help you out? Where does this thinking come from? Why would Melo help the Knicks out? For fans like you that would throw a player to the gutter for yiurniwn selfish interest? I know I wouldn't. And dedinately would not waive my trade kicker.
Melo is being ridiculous with giving only ONE OPTION so F Melo! Let him stay until we can get a better deal for the franchise.
You don't know if Mills is slimy and actually many of the old Front Office guys have good reputations. The narrative you've bought into is mostly Media Driven and there are lots of agendas behind that. Melo would be gone already if not for his ridiculous stance of only one destination.
Contrary to your and Melo's belief he does not hold all the cards because the Knicks don't have to trade him. Taking on a bad contract is more detrimental than Melo's presence next season would be!
Phil and Dolan were ridiculous when they gave him this contract. Melo gave us 1 more team than he has to.
If Melo like it here in NY he can stay one more season and add more losing to his losing resume.
He may became biggest loser of all great hole-of-fame NBA stars!!!
I'm gonna guess that for most people where they live is more important than the company they work for as long as their job is stable. I work for an employer that is about average at what it does. No way I would move just to be with a better employer.
Next season is one season. It's no going to define Melo's career anyway.
But he definitely belongs in the "hole of fame".
Absolutely... 
And the Sent Closk is ticking for this to happen!!!
Briggs, I have to disagree with you on this one. Sending Melo home would be a disaster. It would makenus look bad and this would only decrease his trade value, which is already rockbottom low.
On the otherhand, if Melo decides to simply not show up, then at least the Knicks don't look like arsholes and hopefully free agents will still want to eventually go back to doing business with us.
Melo hasn't helped us make the playoffs in years. Do people really think he'll magically start now, especially since he is older and more injury prone?
Melo's only play is to come to Camp cuz if he holds out then he's the one in the wrong. Melo doesn't really have any power. The NTC gives the illusion of power. Melo is still an employee under contract. The Knicks decide if he's traded to Houston or anywhere else. Melo is STUCK! He has until the start of Camp to play the victim and then the worm turns.
The thing is no one truly wants Melo anymore, that includes 30 NBA teams and LaLa. There may be some teams who are willing to try him as a one season rental especially if its for free - that's about it.
arkrud wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:arkrud wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:nixluva wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.
They should do what any respected professional franchise would do. Move on by taking the hit for signing him to a NTC and changing directions. All respectable businesses know they have to pay the price for a mistake. They take it like men and move on. Specially after the previous Prez trashed him. But most Knick fans want to keep acting like this is a middle school team and they can force players to do anything they want even after screwing them. What are the long term repercussions of being a unprofessional franchise? Clue...look at the Knicks. Would hate to do business with that type of mindset. Mills hits me as that type as well. Reason why I think the Knicks are not any closer to being a respectable franchise. We have the same slimy guys at the top. Luckily for Melo, he has all the power and will win out by forcing the back stabbing front office to deal him to a place that is best for him.
Btw Briggs...do you expect people you screw over and trash publicly, to help you out? Where does this thinking come from? Why would Melo help the Knicks out? For fans like you that would throw a player to the gutter for yiurniwn selfish interest? I know I wouldn't. And dedinately would not waive my trade kicker.
Melo is being ridiculous with giving only ONE OPTION so F Melo! Let him stay until we can get a better deal for the franchise.
You don't know if Mills is slimy and actually many of the old Front Office guys have good reputations. The narrative you've bought into is mostly Media Driven and there are lots of agendas behind that. Melo would be gone already if not for his ridiculous stance of only one destination.
Contrary to your and Melo's belief he does not hold all the cards because the Knicks don't have to trade him. Taking on a bad contract is more detrimental than Melo's presence next season would be!
Phil and Dolan were ridiculous when they gave him this contract. Melo gave us 1 more team than he has to.
If Melo like it here in NY he can stay one more season and add more losing to his losing resume.
He may became biggest loser of all great hole-of-fame NBA stars!!!
I'm gonna guess that for most people where they live is more important than the company they work for as long as their job is stable. I work for an employer that is about average at what it does. No way I would move just to be with a better employer.
Next season is one season. It's no going to define Melo's career anyway.
But he definitely belongs in the "hole of fame".
Absolutely... And the Sent Closk is ticking for this to happen!!!
Good to know you still have a sense of humor
meloshouldgo wrote:The thing is no one truly wants Melo anymore, that includes 30 NBA teams and LaLa. There may be some teams who are willing to try him as a one season rental especially if its for free - that's about it.
You have absolutely no idea if that is accurate.
nixluva wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:BRIGGS wrote:and Melo is forceful on only going to Houston--th only reasonable solution is to "keep him away from the team" until a suitable trade can be found. If that means he sits a season---thats that. Id like to play melo at a reduced role--but if the Knicks feel its in their best interests--than do what you have to do. Weve seen this in sports many times--just kep the player home until a reasonable trade comes calling. Hopefully Melo increases his trade list and everyone can walk away happy.
They should do what any respected professional franchise would do. Move on by taking the hit for signing him to a NTC and changing directions. All respectable businesses know they have to pay the price for a mistake. They take it like men and move on. Specially after the previous Prez trashed him. But most Knick fans want to keep acting like this is a middle school team and they can force players to do anything they want even after screwing them. What are the long term repercussions of being a unprofessional franchise? Clue...look at the Knicks. Would hate to do business with that type of mindset. Mills hits me as that type as well. Reason why I think the Knicks are not any closer to being a respectable franchise. We have the same slimy guys at the top. Luckily for Melo, he has all the power and will win out by forcing the back stabbing front office to deal him to a place that is best for him.
Btw Briggs...do you expect people you screw over and trash publicly, to help you out? Where does this thinking come from? Why would Melo help the Knicks out? For fans like you that would throw a player to the gutter for yiurniwn selfish interest? I know I wouldn't. And dedinately would not waive my trade kicker.
Melo is being ridiculous with giving only ONE OPTION so F Melo! Let him stay until we can get a better deal for the franchise.
You don't know if Mills is slimy and actually many of the old Front Office guys have good reputations. The narrative you've bought into is mostly Media Driven and there are lots of agendas behind that. Melo would be gone already if not for his ridiculous stance of only one destination.
Contrary to your and Melo's belief he does not hold all the cards because the Knicks don't have to trade him. Taking on a bad contract is more detrimental than Melo's presence next season would be!
Ridiculous? So exercising his NTC that Phil gave him after being trashed is ridiculous? Spoken like a true selfish fan. Props. He holds all the cards. He will go to his desired destination. Or stay. Think he is ok with both. But know he will be in Houston before the season starts. Knicks know it roo.
