Knicks · Around the NBA 2017-18 (page 21)

CrushAlot @ 12/16/2017 11:20 AM
CrushAlot @ 12/18/2017 9:32 PM
Celtics just stole the game from the Pacers.
Uptown @ 12/19/2017 7:45 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Celtics just stole the game from the Pacers.

Literally

fishmike @ 12/19/2017 3:01 PM
Nalod wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Nalod wrote:Did MElo like money more than he hated Phil?
And really, what did Phil do that was so bloody awful?
Melo wanted to stay in NYC. That’s all we read. The he played it tough to trade. Not out of spite, but he had choices and wanted to maintain control. Nothing evil there.
It’s over, we moved on. Why do some of you think you know what he was REALLY thinking?
Why would anyone speculate about the most polarizing player on a team for the last 7 years on the team's message board? Here's a question I would love an answer to. Why would someone start a thread about leaving the board only to be the most prolific poster on the board for the month following their post?

lol...and then consistently talk about a player who's no longer on the team

You do realize OKC is all over the media and on a lot of national broadcasts?
You do realize whose coming to town on Sunday? No, not Santa, MELO!!!
Everyone favorite teammate.

YOur initial post was asking why are people speculating about Melo and what he was going to do last offseason. You apparently didn't think that was topic worthy. Now you have spun it.

People are speaking for Melo’s thoughts. I find it amusing.
MeloClaus is coming to town!!!! He made a no trade list, and checked it twice, found out OKC was not so naughty, and might be nice! You Better watch out, you better no spin, Melo gonna high volume shoot and Knicks get a win.......

this is pretty funny
CrushAlot @ 12/22/2017 10:38 PM
Rockets losing at home to the Clippers.
BigDaddyG @ 12/23/2017 1:51 PM
Any idea why the Sun's cut Mike James? He was an older player, but I doubt Isaiah Cannan is going to be a huge improvement. Aggressive tanking maneuver?
Cartman718 @ 12/25/2017 1:16 PM
"Carmelo Anthony is embracing his role playing off the ball.

In Friday's game, Anthony scored 24 points on 8-of-19 shooting including 7-of-12 from 3 as most of his offense came on catch-and-shoot opportunities.

"One hundred percent," Billy Donovan said when asked if that was the ideal kind of offensive game for Anthony. "I give him a lot of credit because this is different for him, and he's really been open-minded about trying to do whatever he can do to help the team. And as a coach, you really appreciate someone that's been in the game such a long time and established himself as a 10-time All-Star, 14 years in the league, one of the all-time greats, that he's willing to look at ways that he can do things a little bit differently to help our team."

"I think for me it's just a matter of accepting that role. That's all it is," Anthony said. "Realizing that's what it's going to be, these are the type of shots I'm going to get, this is the type of offense we're going to be running and accepting that, and working on that role. That's something that I've kind of been doing over the past week, is allowing myself to accept that role and do whatever I gotta do to make this team win.""

Meaning the exact same thing that he wouldn't do for the Knicks.

CrushAlot @ 12/25/2017 11:38 PM
TripleThreat wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:"Carmelo Anthony is embracing his role playing off the ball.


He doesn't have a choice.

Westbrook is the ball dominant player on that team and the entire team structure is built around getting him volume counting stats. From the franchise side, OKC has become an archetype of a functionally marketable team that has no chance to contend. You can sell tickets, get a profit, get fan interest and sell merchandise, but it's going to be a top heavy salary in RW who can't actually carry you over the top to a title.

Melo bucks, WB will freeze him out. Melo goes after WB in the press, then he's stuck. WB is a Nike Signature athlete, based on the brand relationship with the networks, Melo would be roasted alive in the sports media.

He found a bigger ballhog and narcissist than himself. Karma at work.

OKC has gone 10-3 over their last 13 games, has won 5 straight and seem to be figuring things out. Melo is playing with more talent so his role definitely had to change. But I think he wanted a chance to win. A week ago all of the talk was about trading George. Winning seems to have taken care of that.
smackeddog @ 12/27/2017 4:16 AM
What happened to JR Smith? every time I look at a Cavs boxscore he only seems to have scored 3 points and shot 1/3
CrushAlot @ 12/27/2017 12:34 PM
fishmike @ 12/27/2017 4:04 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
TripleThreat wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:"Carmelo Anthony is embracing his role playing off the ball.


He doesn't have a choice.

Westbrook is the ball dominant player on that team and the entire team structure is built around getting him volume counting stats. From the franchise side, OKC has become an archetype of a functionally marketable team that has no chance to contend. You can sell tickets, get a profit, get fan interest and sell merchandise, but it's going to be a top heavy salary in RW who can't actually carry you over the top to a title.

Melo bucks, WB will freeze him out. Melo goes after WB in the press, then he's stuck. WB is a Nike Signature athlete, based on the brand relationship with the networks, Melo would be roasted alive in the sports media.

He found a bigger ballhog and narcissist than himself. Karma at work.

OKC has gone 10-3 over their last 13 games, has won 5 straight and seem to be figuring things out. Melo is playing with more talent so his role definitely had to change. But I think he wanted a chance to win. A week ago all of the talk was about trading George. Winning seems to have taken care of that.
so your saying he's thriving in his role as 3rd option and spot up shooter? Wow... who woulda thunk it
fishmike @ 12/27/2017 4:06 PM
CrushAlot wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21836...
dude's awesome. We took a good long look at him supposedly. He's really good and playing next to Rubio has kept things simple for him. He's not playing PG which is what we were taking him for. Great role for him and he's having an amazing season
meloshouldgo @ 12/27/2017 5:48 PM
fishmike wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
TripleThreat wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:"Carmelo Anthony is embracing his role playing off the ball.


He doesn't have a choice.

Westbrook is the ball dominant player on that team and the entire team structure is built around getting him volume counting stats. From the franchise side, OKC has become an archetype of a functionally marketable team that has no chance to contend. You can sell tickets, get a profit, get fan interest and sell merchandise, but it's going to be a top heavy salary in RW who can't actually carry you over the top to a title.

Melo bucks, WB will freeze him out. Melo goes after WB in the press, then he's stuck. WB is a Nike Signature athlete, based on the brand relationship with the networks, Melo would be roasted alive in the sports media.

He found a bigger ballhog and narcissist than himself. Karma at work.

OKC has gone 10-3 over their last 13 games, has won 5 straight and seem to be figuring things out. Melo is playing with more talent so his role definitely had to change. But I think he wanted a chance to win. A week ago all of the talk was about trading George. Winning seems to have taken care of that.
so your saying he's thriving in his role as 3rd option and spot up shooter? Wow... who woulda thunk it

His NET BPM is -3.2 and his VORP is -0.3, so basicall through the first 33 games he has been slightly worse than the average NBA player - "thriving"?

CrushAlot @ 12/27/2017 5:58 PM
fishmike wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
TripleThreat wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:"Carmelo Anthony is embracing his role playing off the ball.


He doesn't have a choice.

Westbrook is the ball dominant player on that team and the entire team structure is built around getting him volume counting stats. From the franchise side, OKC has become an archetype of a functionally marketable team that has no chance to contend. You can sell tickets, get a profit, get fan interest and sell merchandise, but it's going to be a top heavy salary in RW who can't actually carry you over the top to a title.

Melo bucks, WB will freeze him out. Melo goes after WB in the press, then he's stuck. WB is a Nike Signature athlete, based on the brand relationship with the networks, Melo would be roasted alive in the sports media.

He found a bigger ballhog and narcissist than himself. Karma at work.

OKC has gone 10-3 over their last 13 games, has won 5 straight and seem to be figuring things out. Melo is playing with more talent so his role definitely had to change. But I think he wanted a chance to win. A week ago all of the talk was about trading George. Winning seems to have taken care of that.
so your saying he's thriving in his role as 3rd option and spot up shooter? Wow... who woulda thunk it
I think they are starting to figure out how to make it work. Was his role ever in question when he signed there?
NardDogNation @ 12/27/2017 9:49 PM
smackeddog wrote:What happened to JR Smith? every time I look at a Cavs boxscore he only seems to have scored 3 points and shot 1/3

He's a 32 year old knucklehead who has relied heavily on his athleticism to take and make 3 point shots. It was only a matter of time before Father-time and the comforts of a multi-year contract caught up to him. Thank God we dumped him (and Shumpert) when we did. That truly was addition by subtraction.

knicks1248 @ 12/27/2017 10:58 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
smackeddog wrote:What happened to JR Smith? every time I look at a Cavs boxscore he only seems to have scored 3 points and shot 1/3

He's a 32 year old knucklehead who has relied heavily on his athleticism to take and make 3 point shots. It was only a matter of time before Father-time and the comforts of a multi-year contract caught up to him. Thank God we dumped him (and Shumpert) when we did. That truly was addition by subtraction.

who would you prefer shooting Korver or Jr

NardDogNation @ 12/28/2017 12:43 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
smackeddog wrote:What happened to JR Smith? every time I look at a Cavs boxscore he only seems to have scored 3 points and shot 1/3

He's a 32 year old knucklehead who has relied heavily on his athleticism to take and make 3 point shots. It was only a matter of time before Father-time and the comforts of a multi-year contract caught up to him. Thank God we dumped him (and Shumpert) when we did. That truly was addition by subtraction.

who would you prefer shooting Korver or Jr

Just shooting? Korver.

smackeddog @ 12/28/2017 5:23 AM
NardDogNation wrote:
smackeddog wrote:What happened to JR Smith? every time I look at a Cavs boxscore he only seems to have scored 3 points and shot 1/3

He's a 32 year old knucklehead who has relied heavily on his athleticism to take and make 3 point shots. It was only a matter of time before Father-time and the comforts of a multi-year contract caught up to him. Thank God we dumped him (and Shumpert) when we did. That truly was addition by subtraction.

Remember when people on these boards and Knick writers were in tears that we traded away JR and Shumpert and actually blasted Phil for committing such a crime!

knicks1248 @ 12/28/2017 10:48 AM
smackeddog wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
smackeddog wrote:What happened to JR Smith? every time I look at a Cavs boxscore he only seems to have scored 3 points and shot 1/3

He's a 32 year old knucklehead who has relied heavily on his athleticism to take and make 3 point shots. It was only a matter of time before Father-time and the comforts of a multi-year contract caught up to him. Thank God we dumped him (and Shumpert) when we did. That truly was addition by subtraction.

Remember when people on these boards and Knick writers were in tears that we traded away JR and Shumpert and actually blasted Phil for committing such a crime!

well their role on the cavs would be much different on the knicks

CrushAlot @ 12/28/2017 12:03 PM
smackeddog wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
smackeddog wrote:What happened to JR Smith? every time I look at a Cavs boxscore he only seems to have scored 3 points and shot 1/3

He's a 32 year old knucklehead who has relied heavily on his athleticism to take and make 3 point shots. It was only a matter of time before Father-time and the comforts of a multi-year contract caught up to him. Thank God we dumped him (and Shumpert) when we did. That truly was addition by subtraction.

Remember when people on these boards and Knick writers were in tears that we traded away JR and Shumpert and actually blasted Phil for committing such a crime!

I think it was because they got Lou and Lance back. The remains of the 54/37 win team was moved for small hands, Calderon, Early, the two guard that is getting run in Miami (Ellington?), Lou, and Lance. The Pablo trade was a positive.
HofstraBBall @ 12/29/2017 9:01 AM
fishmike wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
TripleThreat wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:"Carmelo Anthony is embracing his role playing off the ball.


He doesn't have a choice.

Westbrook is the ball dominant player on that team and the entire team structure is built around getting him volume counting stats. From the franchise side, OKC has become an archetype of a functionally marketable team that has no chance to contend. You can sell tickets, get a profit, get fan interest and sell merchandise, but it's going to be a top heavy salary in RW who can't actually carry you over the top to a title.

Melo bucks, WB will freeze him out. Melo goes after WB in the press, then he's stuck. WB is a Nike Signature athlete, based on the brand relationship with the networks, Melo would be roasted alive in the sports media.

He found a bigger ballhog and narcissist than himself. Karma at work.

OKC has gone 10-3 over their last 13 games, has won 5 straight and seem to be figuring things out. Melo is playing with more talent so his role definitely had to change. But I think he wanted a chance to win. A week ago all of the talk was about trading George. Winning seems to have taken care of that.
so your saying he's thriving in his role as 3rd option and spot up shooter? Wow... who woulda thunk it

No he is saying that Melo is a phenomenal defensive player. Top 20 most of year actually. Just check the numbers.

Think he is showing how fans will make stuff up to help their narrative. Truth always was that Melo was not a cancer, took us from laughing stock to playoff contenders right away, was always willing to be a team player, was thrown under the bus by phil and NEVER had any real talent around him as a Knick. Kinda different from what most spent hours trying to push around here. Now he is playing ream ball, sacrificing for the team and guys will resort to pushing the third option knock in his 15th! season as a pro. Who would have thunk it?? So let me guess, if they go far in the playoffs but lose to GS it's will be his fault?

Btw, how is Noah doing?

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