I was thinking the same thing about his free throw shooting. Bayless has looked great there this year.
HofstraBBall@ 10/26/2017 7:36 AM
VS some good guards.
franco12@ 10/26/2017 9:09 AM
HofstraBBall wrote:
VS some good guards.
It may be premature - but if I had to hang my ass out there - we royally messed up by not taking DSjr.
Finestrg@ 10/26/2017 10:05 AM
franco12 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
VS some good guards.
It may be premature - but if I had to hang my ass out there - we royally messed up by not taking DSjr.
Keep in mind that there's no one on Earth that would rather be proven wrong on this more than me, trust me, but I completely agree with you. No question about it.
Welpee@ 10/26/2017 10:06 AM
franco12 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
VS some good guards.
It may be premature - but if I had to hang my ass out there - we royally messed up by not taking DSjr.
After 4 games I bet Philly was happy they drafted Michael Carter-Williams over Giannis Antetokounmpo:
Heck, after 4 games Philly may have been happy they drafted Okafor over KP:
Okafor: 20.25 ppg/5.5 reb KP: 11.25 ppg/8.25 reb
lol good examples.
Seriously are we going to do this all year? If Smith tears his ACL are we going to have a running Malik Monk thread?
Knicks drafted a defensive prospect after decades of stinking on defense. Im ok with it. He's 19. This place is a daily emotional dumping ground. Its silly.
newyorknewyork@ 10/26/2017 10:44 AM
HofstraBBall wrote:
VS some good guards.
Impressive game. Id rather he do well and have to suffer Knicks fans crying about passing him him. Then him have his talented wasted by injury.
I'm still confident Frank when he settles in gets some games under his belt will be fine.
HofstraBBall@ 10/26/2017 11:26 AM
Welpee wrote:
franco12 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
VS some good guards.
It may be premature - but if I had to hang my ass out there - we royally messed up by not taking DSjr.
After 4 games I bet Philly was happy they drafted Michael Carter-Williams over Giannis Antetokounmpo:
Heck, after 4 games Philly may have been happy they drafted Okafor over KP:
Okafor: 20.25 ppg/5.5 reb KP: 11.25 ppg/8.25 reb
lol good examples.
Seriously are we going to do this all year? If Smith tears his ACL are we going to have a running Malik Monk thread?
Knicks drafted a defensive prospect after decades of stinking on defense. Im ok with it. He's 19. This place is a daily emotional dumping ground. Its silly.
Except that doesn't pass the eye test.
In limited time, DSjr looks like a great talent. Question before was could he run a team. In summer league, and now, it sure seems it. Biggest challenge is can he stay healthy?
Frank? He is looking like a bust! I'm sorry, but is he ever going to play? No summer league, no training camp?
NYKBocker@ 10/26/2017 11:37 AM
franco12 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Welpee wrote:
franco12 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
VS some good guards.
It may be premature - but if I had to hang my ass out there - we royally messed up by not taking DSjr.
After 4 games I bet Philly was happy they drafted Michael Carter-Williams over Giannis Antetokounmpo:
Heck, after 4 games Philly may have been happy they drafted Okafor over KP:
Okafor: 20.25 ppg/5.5 reb KP: 11.25 ppg/8.25 reb
lol good examples.
Seriously are we going to do this all year? If Smith tears his ACL are we going to have a running Malik Monk thread?
Knicks drafted a defensive prospect after decades of stinking on defense. Im ok with it. He's 19. This place is a daily emotional dumping ground. Its silly.
Except that doesn't pass the eye test.
In limited time, DSjr looks like a great talent. Question before was could he run a team. In summer league, and now, it sure seems it. Biggest challenge is can he stay healthy?
Frank? He is looking like a bust! I'm sorry, but is he ever going to play? No summer league, no training camp?
If he is out for 3 months then I would be worried. He has been out 3 games due to stepping on somebody's foot. Gotta give him more time.
Nalod@ 10/26/2017 11:39 AM
Cartman718 wrote:why do we need this thread? smh. cant people just root for our guy and be over dsj fox etc etc
NO, its better to have the clarity of hindsight and then lament about missed opportunities. Take 10 things. A few will be a bust then you get to bask in the glory of "See I told you" all the while nobody will hold you accountable for the things that you missed. High volume guys like Briggs can do that. Spew out lots of guys and then say "Hey, remember when I said".........We don't because there is so much. Now to Briggs defense, he does at times bring up his busts and put them out there. Not picking exclusively on him. Ok, maybe a little.
fishmike@ 10/26/2017 11:49 AM
franco12 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Welpee wrote:
franco12 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
VS some good guards.
It may be premature - but if I had to hang my ass out there - we royally messed up by not taking DSjr.
After 4 games I bet Philly was happy they drafted Michael Carter-Williams over Giannis Antetokounmpo:
Heck, after 4 games Philly may have been happy they drafted Okafor over KP:
Okafor: 20.25 ppg/5.5 reb KP: 11.25 ppg/8.25 reb
lol good examples.
Seriously are we going to do this all year? If Smith tears his ACL are we going to have a running Malik Monk thread?
Knicks drafted a defensive prospect after decades of stinking on defense. Im ok with it. He's 19. This place is a daily emotional dumping ground. Its silly.
Except that doesn't pass the eye test.
In limited time, DSjr looks like a great talent. Question before was could he run a team. In summer league, and now, it sure seems it. Biggest challenge is can he stay healthy?
Frank? He is looking like a bust! I'm sorry, but is he ever going to play? No summer league, no training camp?
No. Obviously he's never going to play. 3 games. Dude landed on Willy's ankle in practice. Before that he collided with Kanter. But yea man.. I think these things all add up to bust. He's 19. The body of work cant be denied.
Welpee@ 10/26/2017 12:07 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
Welpee wrote:
franco12 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
VS some good guards.
It may be premature - but if I had to hang my ass out there - we royally messed up by not taking DSjr.
After 4 games I bet Philly was happy they drafted Michael Carter-Williams over Giannis Antetokounmpo:
Heck, after 4 games Philly may have been happy they drafted Okafor over KP:
Okafor: 20.25 ppg/5.5 reb KP: 11.25 ppg/8.25 reb
Great point. Let's now list all the rookies that started well and went on to be really good players.
That would be just as useless as the examples I used and that's the point. Making any determination either way this early is ridiculous. And fans who are going to compare box scores after every game are just going to drive themselves crazy. DSjr. could go on to win rookie of the year and STILL not end up being a better player than Frank long term.
BigRedDog@ 10/26/2017 12:43 PM
Finestrg wrote:
franco12 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
VS some good guards.
It may be premature - but if I had to hang my ass out there - we royally messed up by not taking DSjr.
Keep in mind that there's no one on Earth that would rather be proven wrong on this more than me, trust me, but I completely agree with you. No question about it.
Best analogy I can make is we drafted Kerry Kittles instead of Kobe. A solid player instead of a potential star.
BigDaddyG@ 10/26/2017 1:04 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
franco12 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Welpee wrote:
franco12 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
VS some good guards.
It may be premature - but if I had to hang my ass out there - we royally messed up by not taking DSjr.
After 4 games I bet Philly was happy they drafted Michael Carter-Williams over Giannis Antetokounmpo:
Heck, after 4 games Philly may have been happy they drafted Okafor over KP:
Okafor: 20.25 ppg/5.5 reb KP: 11.25 ppg/8.25 reb
lol good examples.
Seriously are we going to do this all year? If Smith tears his ACL are we going to have a running Malik Monk thread?
Knicks drafted a defensive prospect after decades of stinking on defense. Im ok with it. He's 19. This place is a daily emotional dumping ground. Its silly.
Except that doesn't pass the eye test.
In limited time, DSjr looks like a great talent. Question before was could he run a team. In summer league, and now, it sure seems it. Biggest challenge is can he stay healthy?
Frank? He is looking like a bust! I'm sorry, but is he ever going to play? No summer league, no training camp?
If he is out for 3 months then I would be worried. He has been out 3 games due to stepping on somebody's foot. Gotta give him more time.
I think the jury is still out on whether DSjr. can run a team. He's a natural scorer and he can get to the rim, I'd still hesitate to call him a point guard. I agree, it's frustrating not to see Frank play. In the limited minutes he has played, he's shown he can at least run a PnR, make tight pocket passes and play D. He's probably one of the members of the team who knows the plays if you believe recent player comments. I doubt Horny's offense is half as complicated as Strasbourg's .We'd suck this year, regardless if we had DSjr or Monk. Mind as well bring Frank in slowly. The tank is on. There's no saving the season. Wait till Frank and DSjr play a few games before determining who's a bust. Remember, 8 teams passed over DSjr. There must have been a reason.
fishmike@ 10/26/2017 1:22 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
franco12 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Welpee wrote:
franco12 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
VS some good guards.
It may be premature - but if I had to hang my ass out there - we royally messed up by not taking DSjr.
After 4 games I bet Philly was happy they drafted Michael Carter-Williams over Giannis Antetokounmpo:
Heck, after 4 games Philly may have been happy they drafted Okafor over KP:
Okafor: 20.25 ppg/5.5 reb KP: 11.25 ppg/8.25 reb
lol good examples.
Seriously are we going to do this all year? If Smith tears his ACL are we going to have a running Malik Monk thread?
Knicks drafted a defensive prospect after decades of stinking on defense. Im ok with it. He's 19. This place is a daily emotional dumping ground. Its silly.
Except that doesn't pass the eye test.
In limited time, DSjr looks like a great talent. Question before was could he run a team. In summer league, and now, it sure seems it. Biggest challenge is can he stay healthy?
Frank? He is looking like a bust! I'm sorry, but is he ever going to play? No summer league, no training camp?
If he is out for 3 months then I would be worried. He has been out 3 games due to stepping on somebody's foot. Gotta give him more time.
I think the jury is still out on whether DSjr. can run a team. He's a natural scorer and he can get to the rim, I'd still hesitate to call him a point guard. I agree, it's frustrating not to see Frank play. In the limited minutes he has played, he's shown he can at least run a PnR, make tight pocket passes and play D. He's probably one of the members of the team who knows the plays if you believe recent player comments. I doubt Horny's offense is half as complicated as Strasbourg's .We'd suck this year, regardless if we had DSjr or Monk. Mind as well bring Frank in slowly. The tank is on. There's no saving the season. Wait till Frank and DSjr play a few games before determining who's a bust. Remember, 8 teams passed over DSjr. There must have been a reason.
There were plenty. Issues with attitude, losing college record, ACL surgery and ability to run an offense for starters. I liked him as a prospect. Kerry Kittles instead of Kobe? How about we took Gary Payton instead of Eddie House? I mean cmon people...
newyorknewyork@ 10/26/2017 1:46 PM
BigRedDog wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
franco12 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
VS some good guards.
It may be premature - but if I had to hang my ass out there - we royally messed up by not taking DSjr.
Keep in mind that there's no one on Earth that would rather be proven wrong on this more than me, trust me, but I completely agree with you. No question about it.
Best analogy I can make is we drafted Kerry Kittles instead of Kobe. A solid player instead of a potential star.
Kerry Kittles played 4 yrs of college ball and was 22 yrs old when he came into the league. Averaged 16-3-3 and 17-5-2 his first 2 yrs until injuries derailed is career. He wouldn't have been Kobe but who knows what he would have developed into if injuries didn't derail him.
Frank is 19 yrs old and his body still hasn't matured to its full potential. But that's not even why they drafted him. They drafted him because they viewed him as a high IQ bball player with a great work ethic and high character to go with his physical potential.
There will be a point where Frank is developed physically, and you have Jeff raving about his IQ every time asked. That you only have to tell him once. Knicks are banking on as he matures physically they will have a big long guard with a physical advantage over most guards who comes packaged with a high IQ.
I think DSJ is going to be good. But I don't see a Kobe, or a Curry, or a Westbrook. I see a Kyle Lowry.
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