Knicks · GameThread: Brooklyn visits (page 11)

nixluva @ 10/27/2017 9:44 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:Taking off the rose colored glasses Frankie showed absolutely no ability, nor desire to penetrate. No question he needs to do this
Why right now?

Yeah just let him work his way into this. He’s got nothing but time to round out his game. ☀️😎

ScoreBot @ 10/27/2017 9:46 PM
Q4 1:12
NYK 105 BKN 84
Cartman718 @ 10/27/2017 9:46 PM
BigRedDog wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:Taking off the rose colored glasses Frankie showed absolutely no ability, nor desire to penetrate. No question he needs to do this
Why right now?
Really? Because its being a complete ballplayer. So the defense has to respect that part of your game and it will open up other things
So here’s the flaw with your thinking. For a rookie from Europe who needs to get stronger and bumped knees with Willy which is why he was sitting out.....let’s get his strength training established first before we try to turn him him into dsjr or rose
dacash @ 10/27/2017 9:46 PM
hold on hold on hold on
GustavBahler @ 10/27/2017 9:47 PM
Nice to see that floater from Frank in the paint.
ScoreBot @ 10/27/2017 9:48 PM
FINAL
NYK 107 BKN 86
nyknickzingis @ 10/27/2017 9:48 PM
With Frank in year one all you want to see is the improvement and skills he has it

We know he has the IQ
We are seeing he has the passing skill
He has the 3 point shot

We need to see more defensive skill at the NBA level
Better scoring ability

At worst I think Frank can be a 3nD point guard. Good defender, outside shooter and passer. Good leader. May never be a star in the league but he will be a really good two way starter that fits the modern NBA.

nixluva @ 10/27/2017 9:49 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:Taking off the rose colored glasses Frankie showed absolutely no ability, nor desire to penetrate. No question he needs to do this
Why right now?
Really? Because its being a complete ballplayer. So the defense has to respect that part of your game and it will open up other things
So here's the flaw with your thinking. For a rookie from Europe who needs to get stronger and bumped knees with Willy which is why he was sitting out.....let's get his strength training established first before we try to turn him him into dsjr or rose

Yeah let Nitty develop naturally. He had a very good game on both ends.

dacash @ 10/27/2017 9:51 PM
thank u only one game but I can kinda talk now to my idiot friends nowTHANK YOU!!!!!
Cartman718 @ 10/27/2017 9:51 PM
Jmpasq wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:Happy about this

If we win one in four games
Keeps us high in the lottery
KP keeps developing as a number one guy, averages 26 a game
Frankie comes in and develops slowly but truly.
Willy maybe uses this to motivate him to play better D.

Maybe trade OQuinn, Thomas and some older vets for draft picks.

Just the right direction.

I don't want us to win more than 25 games this year.

0 assists for KP, 3 assists in 4 games, at least he is shooting at a nice clip because he is a black hole

He was making shots at will. Why pass? It’s not like his teammates like thjr were coming off curls and just draining jumpers
nixluva @ 10/27/2017 9:52 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:With Frank in year one all you want to see is the improvement and skills he has it

We know he has the IQ
We are seeing he has the passing skill
He has the 3 point shot

We need to see more defensive skill at the NBA level
Better scoring ability

At worst I think Frank can be a 3nD point guard. Good defender, outside shooter and passer. Good leader. May never be a star in the league but he will be a really good two way starter that fits the modern NBA.

Most important description is WINNING PLAYER! That’s what I see with Ntilikina.

yellowboy90 @ 10/27/2017 9:53 PM
For right now If I'm the coaches I would show Frank tape of Malcolm Brogdon and work his way up to Chauncey Billups tape.
CrushAlot @ 10/27/2017 9:54 PM
Great game. I was really discouraged after the first three games and no Frank. I thought Frank looked great. I also thought the team looked good with Jack. Jack has a rep as a great vet to mentor young players. He might be considered the best in the league in that role. I think he ends up on the 15 man roster.
CrushAlot @ 10/27/2017 9:57 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:For right now If I'm the coaches I would show Frank tape of Malcolm Brogdon and work his way up to Chauncey Billups tape.

Not a bad plan or path to follow. Brogdon is supposed to be a natural leader. That Bucks team could make some noise in the playoffs.
Welpee @ 10/27/2017 9:59 PM
BigRedDog wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:Taking off the rose colored glasses Frankie showed absolutely no ability, nor desire to penetrate. No question he needs to do this
Why right now?

Really? Because its being a complete ballplayer. So the defense has to respect that part of your game and it will open up other things

Yeah, because he needs to be a complete player by game four of his career, right? I totally expected Frank to be a flawless player at this point.
nixluva @ 10/27/2017 10:00 PM
The D was much better but the offense was much improved. They looked much more fluid and in sync. Took advantage of mismatches on KP and Kanter inside!!!
DJMUSIC @ 10/27/2017 10:09 PM
Lol

Haha

The 1st place brooooklyn nets I reckon
took the Knickerbockers very lightly this
Evening & paid the price!

NBA I 'used to Love this game.

Good win, 1st time Knicks! Break them up..

WaltLongmire @ 10/27/2017 10:11 PM
Frank is still the youngest player in the league...and although you see his body filling out and hardening already, he has a long way to go. Doubt if he will ever be "explosive," but he will become better going to the basket over time.

We saw a few high picks for him...but we almost look like we are running the Triangle at times...and not very well as far as our spacing goes. They are having him give up the ball...not unlike the way we've seen our guards do it since Jackson came here. Most guards get to the basket because they exploit a top of the key pick, have not seen as much of that with us, though the best big we have for that- Willy, does not get much burn these days.

Big takaway...Ntilikina seemed much more relaxed on offense, moved the ball around well, hit shots, and showed how his length can be disruptive. Considering he had played fewer minutes than he has fingers and toes before tonight...this was a good first step.

BigDaddyG @ 10/27/2017 10:11 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:Think worth keeping on this team

Kanter/Willy
Porzingis
Dotson/McDermott
Lee/Baker
Frank

Look to trade/not in longterm plans

OQuinn
Thomas
Hardaway

I'm in the seemingly minority but I think Kanter is a good effective impact player.


Good luck with that Hardaway trade.
BigDaddyG @ 10/27/2017 10:14 PM
dacash wrote:thank u only one game but I can kinda talk now to my idiot friends nowTHANK YOU!!!!!

Yeah,but he doesn't have any nice dunks...all he can do is run an offense. Seriously, I love the way he doesn't give up on picks. I swear, there were times last season when Rose was consciously trying to find a pick to run into.
dacash @ 10/27/2017 10:29 PM
ok guys forgive my total.ignorance but........ every one is talking about how high Frank's iq is because he passed the ball to lance with like a second in the shot clock and like 3 seconds left on the game . why was this a smart move?
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