Dude has been great. He looked kinda DONE early on but we don’t win without his turnaround performance.
BigDaddyG@ 10/31/2017 9:27 AM
nixluva wrote:Dude has been great. He looked kinda DONE early on but we don’t win without his turnaround performance.
I wonder how last season would have turned out if we had someone like in the locker room. I worry about him playing too much given his pAst injuries, but can't deny that he still knows how to run a team.
EnySpree@ 10/31/2017 9:37 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
nixluva wrote:Dude has been great. He looked kinda DONE early on but we don’t win without his turnaround performance.
I wonder how last season would have turned out if we had someone like in the locker room. I worry about him playing too much given his pAst injuries, but can't deny that he still knows how to run a team.
His pacing has been excellent so he's preserving his body. In Brooklyn I remember him trying to drive the ball more. I didn't really see him as such a pure floor general. He's putting on a clinic out there. He's only shooting when he has to. Driving when he has to. Directing traffic making all the correct reads. Man.... straight clinic.
In the past I called him trash. At his advanced age he has really become brilliant out there. Frank is in good hands
HofstraBBall@ 10/31/2017 9:48 AM
He is a NBA VET defined. Think Sessions cant be counted out either. Its a game of runs baby.
SupremeCommander@ 10/31/2017 9:48 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
nixluva wrote:Dude has been great. He looked kinda DONE early on but we don’t win without his turnaround performance.
I wonder how last season would have turned out if we had someone like in the locker room. I worry about him playing too much given his pAst injuries, but can't deny that he still knows how to run a team.
at this point, I think you have to ride Jack into the ground if need be. Frank seeing this type of play up close and personal is invaluable, especially from a guy that doesn't think of Frank as am enemy combatant. For example, I don't think Rose would be mentoring Frank and I also think Frank would be picking up some bad habits
newyorker4ever@ 10/31/2017 10:10 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
nixluva wrote:Dude has been great. He looked kinda DONE early on but we don’t win without his turnaround performance.
I wonder how last season would have turned out if we had someone like in the locker room. I worry about him playing too much given his pAst injuries, but can't deny that he still knows how to run a team.
at this point, I think you have to ride Jack into the ground if need be. Frank seeing this type of play up close and personal is invaluable, especially from a guy that doesn't think of Frank as am enemy combatant. For example, I don't think Rose would be mentoring Frank and I also think Frank would be picking up some bad habits
Why would you ride him into the ground when he's a huge reason why we're playing as well as we are right now? I love that Frank is learning behind him but we need Jack if we want to keep playing well. Sessions isn't the same player as Jack and Ron Burgandy definitely isn't the same player. If Frank wasn't so injury prone then i wouldn't mind it but he is so lets try to keep Jack healthy.
unstopaball12@ 10/31/2017 10:24 AM
Key with Jack is how long can he keep this up. Out for 2 seasons due to major injuries to the legs. I love what he brings, but will he still be efficient until December, when teams have scouted the knicks more and also mileage comes into play.
EnySpree@ 10/31/2017 10:41 AM
newyorker4ever wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
nixluva wrote:Dude has been great. He looked kinda DONE early on but we don’t win without his turnaround performance.
I wonder how last season would have turned out if we had someone like in the locker room. I worry about him playing too much given his pAst injuries, but can't deny that he still knows how to run a team.
at this point, I think you have to ride Jack into the ground if need be. Frank seeing this type of play up close and personal is invaluable, especially from a guy that doesn't think of Frank as am enemy combatant. For example, I don't think Rose would be mentoring Frank and I also think Frank would be picking up some bad habits
Why would you ride him into the ground when he's a huge reason why we're playing as well as we are right now? I love that Frank is learning behind him but we need Jack if we want to keep playing well. Sessions isn't the same player as Jack and Ron Burgandy definitely isn't the same player. If Frank wasn't so injury prone then i wouldn't mind it but he is so lets try to keep Jack healthy.
I believe supreme just means we need to ride tthe Jack train as long as we can. He's won the starting spot. He's playing around 30 mins. As Frank gets better he will take minutes away. Frank isn't ready yet. Chances are Jack will need rest at some point. Frank will get his chance.
SupremeCommander@ 10/31/2017 10:58 AM
EnySpree wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
nixluva wrote:Dude has been great. He looked kinda DONE early on but we don’t win without his turnaround performance.
I wonder how last season would have turned out if we had someone like in the locker room. I worry about him playing too much given his pAst injuries, but can't deny that he still knows how to run a team.
at this point, I think you have to ride Jack into the ground if need be. Frank seeing this type of play up close and personal is invaluable, especially from a guy that doesn't think of Frank as am enemy combatant. For example, I don't think Rose would be mentoring Frank and I also think Frank would be picking up some bad habits
Why would you ride him into the ground when he's a huge reason why we're playing as well as we are right now? I love that Frank is learning behind him but we need Jack if we want to keep playing well. Sessions isn't the same player as Jack and Ron Burgandy definitely isn't the same player. If Frank wasn't so injury prone then i wouldn't mind it but he is so lets try to keep Jack healthy.
I believe supreme just means we need to ride tthe Jack train as long as we can. He's won the starting spot. He's playing around 30 mins. As Frank gets better he will take minutes away. Frank isn't ready yet. Chances are Jack will need rest at some point. Frank will get his chance.
that's exactly what I mean
Knixkik@ 10/31/2017 11:24 AM
Jack is a keeper no doubt. Hopefully next year, Ntilikina is ready to become a full-time starter, we can sign an elite backup like Cory Joseph, and bring back Jack as a 3rd string PG/veteran leader. His impact on this team is big, no question about it. We still need to improve our PG situation, but Jack belongs on this roster for everything he brings. Reminds me of the impact Kidd had, as far as leadership and intangibles.
GustavBahler@ 10/31/2017 11:42 AM
Jack has been steady lately, thats what we need from the PG postion more than anything right now. Especially with the PG rotisserie this team has had to deal with.
Caseloads@ 10/31/2017 11:57 AM
leadership is under-rated
Knixkik wrote:Jack is a keeper no doubt. Hopefully next year, Ntilikina is ready to become a full-time starter, we can sign an elite backup like Cory Joseph, and bring back Jack as a 3rd string PG/veteran leader. His impact on this team is big, no question about it. We still need to improve our PG situation, but Jack belongs on this roster for everything he brings. Reminds me of the impact Kidd had, as far as leadership and intangibles.
Knixkik@ 10/31/2017 11:58 AM
Caseloads wrote:leadership is under-rated
Knixkik wrote:Jack is a keeper no doubt. Hopefully next year, Ntilikina is ready to become a full-time starter, we can sign an elite backup like Cory Joseph, and bring back Jack as a 3rd string PG/veteran leader. His impact on this team is big, no question about it. We still need to improve our PG situation, but Jack belongs on this roster for everything he brings. Reminds me of the impact Kidd had, as far as leadership and intangibles.
Absolutely.
knicks1248@ 10/31/2017 12:04 PM
I know I had my doubts, but he has filled the role nicely so far. He doesn't score much, but in the last 2 games, he hit a couple big time shots to stop help us regain composure after the the cavs and Denver made their run.
GoNyGoNyGo@ 10/31/2017 12:32 PM
He has been the ignition for this new flowing Knicks offense. No signs of life with Sessions, now they are running up 115 points per game?
Let up hope he can keep this up. Jack has been injury prone over his career.
What it proves is that with a PG doing what is needed, Jeff's offense looks great. It is similar to MDA's but without the over dependence on the 3 point shot.
Hardaway is a good fit for this offense as is Lee.
anrst@ 10/31/2017 12:48 PM
after all we've been through, i am completely blown away by a competent pg who prioritizes getting everyone going in the offense.
CrushAlot@ 10/31/2017 5:13 PM
anrst wrote:after all we've been through, i am completely blown away by a competent pg who prioritizes getting everyone going in the offense.
This. He also has the rep of being a great locker room guy and mentor. He needs to be signed for the rest of the season.
Zebo13@ 10/31/2017 8:55 PM
anrst wrote:after all we've been through, i am completely blown away by a competent pg who prioritizes getting everyone going in the offense.
Defense too as can be seen in the video.
GustavBahler@ 10/31/2017 9:02 PM
anrst wrote:after all we've been through, i am completely blown away by a competent pg who prioritizes getting everyone going in the offense.
We've had plenty of PGs who tried (unsuccessfully for the most part) to get everyone on the same page. We've had our share of veteran leaders as well.
What the Knicks havent had enough of at PG (among other positions) is competence. Mostly PGs who didnt have enough left in the tank, or not healthy enough, to make good use of their veteran skills.
nixluva@ 10/31/2017 9:12 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
anrst wrote:after all we've been through, i am completely blown away by a competent pg who prioritizes getting everyone going in the offense.
We've had plenty of PGs who tried (unsuccessfully for the most part) to get everyone on the same page. We've had our share of veteran leaders as well.
What the Knicks havent had enough of at PG (among other positions) is competence. Mostly PGs who didnt have enough left in the tank, or not healthy enough, to make good use of their veteran skills.
I just remember Jack making smart plays and big shots to kill the Knicks in the past. The hope was he could get some of his game back and he has so far been that guy for the Knicks!!! Hope he can keep it going all season.
meloshouldgo@ 10/31/2017 9:37 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
anrst wrote:after all we've been through, i am completely blown away by a competent pg who prioritizes getting everyone going in the offense.
We've had plenty of PGs who tried (unsuccessfully for the most part) to get everyone on the same page. We've had our share of veteran leaders as well.
What the Knicks havent had enough of at PG (among other positions) is competence. Mostly PGs who didnt have enough left in the tank, or not healthy enough, to make good use of their veteran skills.
Competence and unselfishness. Both are needed in equal parts.
