nixluva wrote:I'm very pleased with how much better Willy's effort has been on D. He picked it up BIG TIME! That's what he's gonna need to do in order to earn more PT.
hardly dude. he was OK guarding the perimeter still horrible in the paint.
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Giving the 2 techs to Beas and Frank on Nurkic decided the game and ended the comeback. We were on a 16-0 run in the 4th at that point with our bench in the game.I thought the tech on Frank was too much. Nothing happened; they were just jawing at each other. Refs should show some discretion.
Also, those wasted minutes with Sessions in the game.
SocraticBallin22 wrote:Giving the 2 techs to Beas and Frank on Nurkic decided the game and ended the comeback. We were on a 16-0 run in the 4th at that point with our bench in the game.I thought the tech on Frank was too much. Nothing happened; they were just jawing at each other. Refs should show some discretion.
Yeah that kind of thing wasn't necessary. Plus all the MISSES early just killed this one. Knicks were short arming a TON of shots that were right there.
Even in this loss there was some good. Willy found his BALLS. Dude suddenly started defending harder and it made a difference.
Nitty wasn't efficient but he was more aggressive in looking for his offense. Had some nice looks but I felt he was just a TAD too quick. I think he could take just a beat before launching his shots.
Beasley is still a capable offensive threat. Kind of think they should use him more as a 6th man. We have so few guys that create their own shots.
Oh well hope they come out better next game.
Cartman718 wrote:nixluva wrote:I'm very pleased with how much better Willy's effort has been on D. He picked it up BIG TIME! That's what he's gonna need to do in order to earn more PT.
hardly dude. he was OK guarding the perimeter still horrible in the paint.
Totally disagree!!! Willy got a block and was much more aggressive defending during that run the Knicks had. I'm not sure you were watching everything he was doing but he was all over Nurkic and putting pressure on him. He was just much more forceful.
Knicks didn't start playing until the 4th quarter against a good team. Kanter's energy and intensity are so critical to this team.
Man I wanna see more frank, he needs more minutes his defense is the catalyst to our runs. I want frank to play with the starters more. Beas deserves minutes too, that second unit needs a scoring threat.nice try to come back refs put the nail in the coffin with those double techs.... again more frank PLEASE
nixluva wrote:Cartman718 wrote:nixluva wrote:I'm very pleased with how much better Willy's effort has been on D. He picked it up BIG TIME! That's what he's gonna need to do in order to earn more PT.
hardly dude. he was OK guarding the perimeter still horrible in the paint.
Totally disagree!!! Willy got a block and was much more aggressive defending during that run the Knicks had. I'm not sure you were watching everything he was doing but he was all over Nurkic and putting pressure on him. He was just much more forceful.
It was mostly on the perimeter.
Knixkik wrote:Knicks didn't start playing until the 4th quarter against a good team. Kanter's energy and intensity are so critical to this team.
He's the heart and soul, I started that thread 2 weeks. I'm not sure why Noah got 3 productive minutes, that was wierd
Cartman718 wrote:nixluva wrote:Cartman718 wrote:nixluva wrote:I'm very pleased with how much better Willy's effort has been on D. He picked it up BIG TIME! That's what he's gonna need to do in order to earn more PT.
hardly dude. he was OK guarding the perimeter still horrible in the paint.
Totally disagree!!! Willy got a block and was much more aggressive defending during that run the Knicks had. I'm not sure you were watching everything he was doing but he was all over Nurkic and putting pressure on him. He was just much more forceful.
It was mostly on the perimeter.
He played with a little more energy in the 2nd half, but cmon man, he's nothing special either way. I don't why mills feels like he's untouchable.
I turned it off after 3
At that point the only bright spot was Noah’s 3 minutes and a few
Possessions by THJ where he wanted it. I like his fire
knicks1248 wrote:Cartman718 wrote:nixluva wrote:Cartman718 wrote:nixluva wrote:I'm very pleased with how much better Willy's effort has been on D. He picked it up BIG TIME! That's what he's gonna need to do in order to earn more PT.
hardly dude. he was OK guarding the perimeter still horrible in the paint.
Totally disagree!!! Willy got a block and was much more aggressive defending during that run the Knicks had. I'm not sure you were watching everything he was doing but he was all over Nurkic and putting pressure on him. He was just much more forceful.
It was mostly on the perimeter.
He played with a little more energy in the 2nd half, but cmon man, he's nothing special either way. I don't why mills feels like he's untouchable.
We're trying to measure progress here. Willy did in fact play harder and he grabbed 9 rebounds and a block in 16 minutes. He's got to continue to improve which is the entire point of this process of developing players. Too many guys want to kill off young players after just 20 games and that's not really smart. You have to take a longer view than that. Especially with Willy who we know has talent and he's on a great contract. WHY BE IMPATIENT???
nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Cartman718 wrote:nixluva wrote:Cartman718 wrote:nixluva wrote:I'm very pleased with how much better Willy's effort has been on D. He picked it up BIG TIME! That's what he's gonna need to do in order to earn more PT.
hardly dude. he was OK guarding the perimeter still horrible in the paint.
Totally disagree!!! Willy got a block and was much more aggressive defending during that run the Knicks had. I'm not sure you were watching everything he was doing but he was all over Nurkic and putting pressure on him. He was just much more forceful.
It was mostly on the perimeter.
He played with a little more energy in the 2nd half, but cmon man, he's nothing special either way. I don't why mills feels like he's untouchable.
We're trying to measure progress here. Willy did in fact play harder and he grabbed 9 rebounds and a block in 16 minutes. He's got to continue to improve which is the entire point of this process of developing players. Too many guys want to kill off young players after just 20 games and that's not really smart. You have to take a longer view than that. Especially with Willy who we know has talent and he's on a great contract. WHY BE IMPATIENT???
Some of it is the roster imbalance with all of the centers. Some of it is how much Kanter has brought to the team. Some of it is Willy's poor play.
Game sucked... but we're learning. Guys were lazy to start... then they turn it on too late. Coach is learning his guys and the players are hopefully learning how to win. We need leadership. We need Kanter back as well. Beasley hopefully can get in the game earlier to prevent slumps in scoring. He's our microwave. Miami is next
Well we may end up with that top 8 pick, wheels are falling off
Hey, I liked that fact Dotson and some of the young guys played together in the 2nd. I'll take a loss every now and then if those guys build on something and get playing time together
Player and ball movement has been dwindling over the last 7-8 games. Easy scoring is getting less and less. When was the last time KP had a dunk? He should be getting 3-4 per game. Clyde said it best he is settling and his FG% has been taking a dive. Get back to basics of Phil’s system. Spacing is bad and the team can’t stop bleeding when the other team makes a run because they simply don’t have a go to system.
THJ was a no show and jacks up some crazy shots they have to get a better grasp of good shots and get better shots. KP as a slasher is becoming more and more nonexistent. Jeff has to get a better understanding of his rotation and players he has. During that second quarter they couldn’t score didn’t understand why Beasley wasn’t inserted into the line up. Frank has to be more aggressive and draw defenders by driving to the hoop his game is regressing he simply isn’t looking at the hoop and creating easy shot opportunities.
fishmike wrote:
Lots of this baby
Just don’t see enough of this. He is to busy hanging out in the perimeter. Doesn’t cut to the hoop seeing KP bear the basket is getting less and less.
CrushAlot wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Cartman718 wrote:nixluva wrote:Cartman718 wrote:nixluva wrote:I'm very pleased with how much better Willy's effort has been on D. He picked it up BIG TIME! That's what he's gonna need to do in order to earn more PT.
hardly dude. he was OK guarding the perimeter still horrible in the paint.
Totally disagree!!! Willy got a block and was much more aggressive defending during that run the Knicks had. I'm not sure you were watching everything he was doing but he was all over Nurkic and putting pressure on him. He was just much more forceful.
It was mostly on the perimeter.
He played with a little more energy in the 2nd half, but cmon man, he's nothing special either way. I don't why mills feels like he's untouchable.
We're trying to measure progress here. Willy did in fact play harder and he grabbed 9 rebounds and a block in 16 minutes. He's got to continue to improve which is the entire point of this process of developing players. Too many guys want to kill off young players after just 20 games and that's not really smart. You have to take a longer view than that. Especially with Willy who we know has talent and he's on a great contract. WHY BE IMPATIENT???
Some of it is the roster imbalance with all of the centers. Some of it is how much Kanter has brought to the team. Some of it is Willy's poor play.
Yeah Willy has mostly stunk! At the start of this game when Willy came in he was HORRIBLE. I did see him play better in the 2nd half. The guy needs a lot of work but I think he has the ability to play much better than this. He’s gotta MAN UP and stop wussing out. Tonight in the 2nd half I saw some effort but he’s still got a ways to go.
martin wrote:Hey, I liked that fact Dotson and some of the young guys played together in the 2nd. I'll take a loss every now and then if those guys build on something and get playing time together
I agree. This is about more than just W/L’s. This franchise has to build and young players must be developed.
nixluva wrote:CrushAlot wrote:nixluva wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Cartman718 wrote:nixluva wrote:Cartman718 wrote:nixluva wrote:I'm very pleased with how much better Willy's effort has been on D. He picked it up BIG TIME! That's what he's gonna need to do in order to earn more PT.
hardly dude. he was OK guarding the perimeter still horrible in the paint.
Totally disagree!!! Willy got a block and was much more aggressive defending during that run the Knicks had. I'm not sure you were watching everything he was doing but he was all over Nurkic and putting pressure on him. He was just much more forceful.
It was mostly on the perimeter.
He played with a little more energy in the 2nd half, but cmon man, he's nothing special either way. I don't why mills feels like he's untouchable.
We're trying to measure progress here. Willy did in fact play harder and he grabbed 9 rebounds and a block in 16 minutes. He's got to continue to improve which is the entire point of this process of developing players. Too many guys want to kill off young players after just 20 games and that's not really smart. You have to take a longer view than that. Especially with Willy who we know has talent and he's on a great contract. WHY BE IMPATIENT???
Some of it is the roster imbalance with all of the centers. Some of it is how much Kanter has brought to the team. Some of it is Willy's poor play.
Yeah Willy has mostly stunk! At the start of this game when Willy came in he was HORRIBLE. I did see him play better in the 2nd half. The guy needs a lot of work but I think he has the ability to play much better than this. He’s gotta MAN UP and stop wussing out. Tonight in the 2nd half I saw some effort but he’s still got a ways to go.
I don't think he is a good stop and start player. He seems to play better with continuity. Embedding last year he gout better later on, with continued exposure. This kid ain't gonna a be a stop gap, he will either have to be part of the rotation or traded.
Vmart wrote:Player and ball movement has been dwindling over the last 7-8 games. Easy scoring is getting less and less. When was the last time KP had a dunk? He should be getting 3-4 per game. Clyde said it best he is settling and his FG% has been taking a dive. Get back to basics of Phil’s system. Spacing is bad and the team can’t stop bleeding when the other team makes a run because they simply don’t have a go to system. THJ was a no show and jacks up some crazy shots they have to get a better grasp of good shots and get better shots. KP as a slasher is becoming more and more nonexistent. Jeff has to get a better understanding of his rotation and players he has. During that second quarter they couldn’t score didn’t understand why Beasley wasn’t inserted into the line up. Frank has to be more aggressive and draw defenders by driving to the hoop his game is regressing he simply isn’t looking at the hoop and creating easy shot opportunities.
I agree 100% re ball movement and not sure what's going on there, e.g., whether defense is taking certain opportunities away forcing Knicks to adapt, or if the players are just not doing what they're supposed to. The blazers with all their guard talent nonetheless showed a lot more player movement IMO. I also agree there is something weird going on with KP settling for bombs. Dunks are nice, but he was killing it on simple moves 12' from the rim. Now he wants to play guard again. He is having problems playing against physical defenses that take space away from him. Not sure what the answer is. Earlier in the season it seemed he relaxed a bit and just simply shot over people
I disagree re THJ. He has the fire and competitiveness we need. He's been our best wing on the break. Takes charges from 270 lb steam roller. Yes occasionally jacks a shot but I think it's with the right purpose of trying to ignite something. When someone else is hot, I don't see him complaining about lack of shots and he seems happy that the team is scoring even if through someone else.
