Knicks · How about this team next year (page 2)

reub @ 1/8/2018 9:55 PM
Paris907 wrote:There is a mistaken assumption that KP And Kanter compliment one another. The stats say otherwise and dramatically so. I like Kanter as a 20+ Min per nite backup. He can get you into the playoffs but he can not contain most 5s and simply doesn’t have the quickness and lateral athleticism to take us further. He’s a luxury as a backup. I think we pick #10 and there will talent there. Since there are 4 bigs projected in the top 5/6, and as Young will be gone, it should leave some 3s or 2s available

KP shoots, misses and then Kanter rebounds and puts it in. That's real synergy.

Bonn1997 @ 1/9/2018 2:19 PM
reub wrote:
Paris907 wrote:There is a mistaken assumption that KP And Kanter compliment one another. The stats say otherwise and dramatically so. I like Kanter as a 20+ Min per nite backup. He can get you into the playoffs but he can not contain most 5s and simply doesn’t have the quickness and lateral athleticism to take us further. He’s a luxury as a backup. I think we pick #10 and there will talent there. Since there are 4 bigs projected in the top 5/6, and as Young will be gone, it should leave some 3s or 2s available

KP shoots, misses and then Kanter rebounds and puts it in...


and we get outscored until KOQ comes in. There's a pattern.

I agree with Paris. I like Kanter very much as a 20 min backup. That's the role he's had most of his career. I think he's going to cost too much if that's the role for him though.

fishmike @ 1/9/2018 3:34 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
reub wrote:
Paris907 wrote:There is a mistaken assumption that KP And Kanter compliment one another. The stats say otherwise and dramatically so. I like Kanter as a 20+ Min per nite backup. He can get you into the playoffs but he can not contain most 5s and simply doesn’t have the quickness and lateral athleticism to take us further. He’s a luxury as a backup. I think we pick #10 and there will talent there. Since there are 4 bigs projected in the top 5/6, and as Young will be gone, it should leave some 3s or 2s available

KP shoots, misses and then Kanter rebounds and puts it in...


and we get outscored until KOQ comes in. There's a pattern.

I agree with Paris. I like Kanter very much as a 20 min backup. That's the role he's had most of his career. I think he's going to cost too much if that's the role for him though.

But not by design. Kanter would be starting. Portland made a big offer and Presti didnt want to lose a talent like Kanter for nothing so they matched. Adams played 8 mpg more than Kanter last year. The year before Adams played 4 more, the year before that Kanter played more. They really played them both favoring Adams for his defense.

Not many backups have played as much as Kantor.

I started the year thinking the best move would be to boost Kanter's value and trade him, but its no longer that clear.
1) Kanter is valuable here. He energizes the team and leads with effort.
2) He's gotten better, specifically on defense. He comes out and guards on the perimeter instead of conceding jumper as we saw him earlier.
3) He's got a jump shot he hasnt shown much yet.
4) coachable

Bonn1997 @ 1/9/2018 3:37 PM
fishmike wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
reub wrote:
Paris907 wrote:There is a mistaken assumption that KP And Kanter compliment one another. The stats say otherwise and dramatically so. I like Kanter as a 20+ Min per nite backup. He can get you into the playoffs but he can not contain most 5s and simply doesn’t have the quickness and lateral athleticism to take us further. He’s a luxury as a backup. I think we pick #10 and there will talent there. Since there are 4 bigs projected in the top 5/6, and as Young will be gone, it should leave some 3s or 2s available

KP shoots, misses and then Kanter rebounds and puts it in...


and we get outscored until KOQ comes in. There's a pattern.

I agree with Paris. I like Kanter very much as a 20 min backup. That's the role he's had most of his career. I think he's going to cost too much if that's the role for him though.

But not by design. Kanter would be starting. Portland made a big offer and Presti didnt want to lose a talent like Kanter for nothing so they matched. Adams played 8 mpg more than Kanter last year. The year before Adams played 4 more, the year before that Kanter played more. They really played them both favoring Adams for his defense.

Not many backups have played as much as Kantor.

I started the year thinking the best move would be to boost Kanter's value and trade him, but its no longer that clear.
1) Kanter is valuable here. He energizes the team and leads with effort.
2) He's gotten better, specifically on defense. He comes out and guards on the perimeter instead of conceding jumper as we saw him earlier.
3) He's got a jump shot he hasnt shown much yet.
4) coachable


I'd still rather have KOQ, Willy, and Noah battling for minutes (I don't think there's even a net loss there) and $10 to 15 mil per year spent on PG or SF. I'd rather buy low with KOQ and sell high with Kanter than buy high with Kanter and sell low with KOQ. I think the team is going to do the latter though.
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