Yeah no one else throws out any names and then--oh Briggs you missed on a couple there--but the fact is I actually watch and find the guys! If I go back and show how many dead on pegs I have--Id fill the board up.
One PG in round 2 and make our first and 2nd rd picks turn into these two--forget the draft boards and take my word for these three dropping bonzie Colson--with broken foot undersized player will need to prove it for a draft pick.
Vmart@ 1/14/2018 8:46 PM
I have been intrigued by Diop.
BRIGGS@ 1/14/2018 8:50 PM
Vmart wrote:I have been intrigued by Diop.
I dont mind waiting for Frank but Id rather have the next Kyle Kuzma right now. Im looking for older guys who can play--after the top 6-7 guys it f drops like a rock. these guys who are not even projected picks are just as good as anyone after that mark.
reub@ 1/14/2018 9:04 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Vmart wrote:I have been intrigued by Diop.
I dont mind waiting for Frank but Id rather have the next Kyle Kuzma right now. Im looking for older guys who can play--after the top 6-7 guys it f drops like a rock. these guys who are not even projected picks are just as good as anyone after that mark.
Also what's the point of drafting 19 year olds (unless they're very special) and developing them for 3 or 4 years until they start producing and then having to give them max contracts after year #5? At least with a slightly older rookie you might get more production at an earlier time from them.
BRIGGS@ 1/14/2018 9:28 PM
reub wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Vmart wrote:I have been intrigued by Diop.
I dont mind waiting for Frank but Id rather have the next Kyle Kuzma right now. Im looking for older guys who can play--after the top 6-7 guys it f drops like a rock. these guys who are not even projected picks are just as good as anyone after that mark.
Also what's the point of drafting 19 year olds (unless they're very special) and developing them for 3 or 4 years until they start producing and then having to give them max contracts after year #5? At least with a slightly older rookie you might get more production at an earlier time from them.
Agree Id rather look for dray green's Kyle Kuzma types--- I already know about Bagley Aayton Doncic trae young etc.. everyone knows those guys--they already great.
BRIGGS@ 1/14/2018 9:30 PM
also maybe KP isnt a #1 --imagine how good we are if KP was a #3or 4 and fit more into a system.
BRIGGS@ 1/14/2018 11:15 PM
What you like about this guy. Hes almost 6-8 yet he can handle it like a true combo guard. He makes quick decisions and crisp passes. Hes got length and body control. Hes got a good shooting form. He can rebound and bring it up full court. Hes avg 25.3 9 rebounds and 3.5 assits since in his last 11 games coming back from injury. Again great pro guard body with long arms.
scored 44 last night [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QB8Tso9Tws[/YouTube]
Look at his handle at 6-8--this guy has the goods to be an nba star.
BRIGGS@ 1/15/2018 11:36 AM
If Im past 7 or so in the draft--Ill trade down just a bit and take Hutchinson and Diop. There is NO other 6-8 guard in this draft who can handle shoot pass rebound and defend like Hutchinson. Its a Kuzma case---if last years draft was done over Kuzma would be top 10--same thing here--the guy has come into his own has unique size and skill sets(lottery pick body and skills) and is being discounted for staying in school. Diop not as athletic but unique --id rather trade down and get both then just take a pick around 11-12.
Nalod@ 1/15/2018 5:18 PM
You watch the games. You find the guys. Then post videos. So its like someone already “found them”? Maybe?
Swishfm3@ 1/15/2018 6:28 PM
Although I believe you have a terrible eye for talent, I do respect the fact that you're not afraid to put yourself out when it comes to potential future NBA players
As for the thread topic...I remember Diop when he first came to the scene (was he hurt last season?) and he has bad ball skills and below average defender. I see he is having a pretty good year but aside from Michigan St, their schedule is pretty cupcake.
Don't know anything about this Chandler kid
Knixkik@ 1/17/2018 9:10 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Vmart wrote:I have been intrigued by Diop.
I dont mind waiting for Frank but Id rather have the next Kyle Kuzma right now. Im looking for older guys who can play--after the top 6-7 guys it f drops like a rock. these guys who are not even projected picks are just as good as anyone after that mark.
I agree with you. Both of these guys are starting to climb the draft boards now. There's not much star upside outside of the top 7 guys, so i would rather draft a guy who can be a rotation player right away and a good NBA role player. Both guys you mentioned fit the bill. Hutchison has that all-around ability to be a good future 6th man. Diop-Bates has an NBA body and if his 3pt is legit, he could become a better version of Lance Thomas. Grabbing someone like this is fine to me. Another guy who fits that category is Shake Milton. He can shoot, defend, and handle the ball. Reminds me of Brogdon.
Ira@ 1/17/2018 9:26 AM
Mikal Bridges is the guy who I hope we get with our 1st round pick, but he may be gone before our turn.
Knixkik@ 1/17/2018 9:42 AM
Ira wrote:Mikal Bridges is the guy who I hope we get with our 1st round pick, but he may be gone before our turn.
I agree, he's ideal. But Hutchison, Milton, and Bates Diop are all players 6'6+ with similar skillsets has Bridges, but are just flying under the radar.
Yeah no one else throws out any names and then--oh Briggs you missed on a couple there--but the fact is I actually watch and find the guys! If I go back and show how many dead on pegs I have--Id fill the board up.
One PG in round 2 and make our first and 2nd rd picks turn into these two--forget the draft boards and take my word for these three dropping bonzie Colson--with broken foot undersized player will need to prove it for a draft pick.
How hard is it to find guys that are putting up big stats for teams that aren't big name schools for basketball and then throw their names in a thread on a message board? I can go on the internet and find kids that are putting up good stats for their teams and post their names on a message board.
EnySpree@ 1/17/2018 10:57 AM
I'm telling you Jarred Vanderbilt is the guy we draft. He finally played last night because of injury. The kid is dynamic. Scottie Pippen like
newyorknewyork@ 1/17/2018 11:12 AM
EnySpree wrote:I'm telling you Jarred Vanderbilt is the guy we draft. He finally played last night because of injury. The kid is dynamic. Scottie Pippen like
I've been waiting for this kid to play all season. Gonna see if Incan find highlights. They say he can't really shoot but is one of those stat filler types.
newyorknewyork@ 1/17/2018 11:13 AM
Also Briggs I dropped the name Kyrie Thomas earlier.
Yeah no one else throws out any names and then--oh Briggs you missed on a couple there--but the fact is I actually watch and find the guys! If I go back and show how many dead on pegs I have--Id fill the board up.
One PG in round 2 and make our first and 2nd rd picks turn into these two--forget the draft boards and take my word for these three dropping bonzie Colson--with broken foot undersized player will need to prove it for a draft pick.
How hard is it to find guys that are putting up big stats for teams that aren't big name schools for basketball and then throw their names in a thread on a message board? I can go on the internet and find kids that are putting up good stats for their teams and post their names on a message board.
There are plenty of players who put up great stats who have 0/100 chance of playing in the NBA. Its good to have numbers--but rather in terms of nBA--you are looking at body athleticism skill sets length team play ball handling defense---most of these guys with great college stats have no chance. Its easy to to criticize without actually watching the games and finding the players. In this case you have two 6-8 guys with long arms who happen to have NBA skill sets imho. I dont see any post going back years where you identified anything--although you will say you did right:)
Two yeras ago I found Malcolm Brogdon--I even said he was my number 1 choice if the Knicks could acquire a second rounder. I look for 2nd res most of the time thats why its not a perfect science. Everyone knows who the top 10 guys are--thats easy.
BigDaddyG@ 1/17/2018 1:09 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
EnySpree wrote:I'm telling you Jarred Vanderbilt is the guy we draft. He finally played last night because of injury. The kid is dynamic. Scottie Pippen like
I've been waiting for this kid to play all season. Gonna see if Incan find highlights. They say he can't really shoot but is one of those stat filler types.
Yeah, the talent is there. The injury was the only real question. We could be looking at both Bridges, Knox and Vanderbilt where we pick. I like Vanderbilt's upside the most. I also like the subtle improvements Miles Bridges is making as 3. Still, I'm wary of reaching.
EnySpree@ 1/17/2018 1:21 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
EnySpree wrote:I'm telling you Jarred Vanderbilt is the guy we draft. He finally played last night because of injury. The kid is dynamic. Scottie Pippen like
I've been waiting for this kid to play all season. Gonna see if Incan find highlights. They say he can't really shoot but is one of those stat filler types.
Yeah, the talent is there. The injury was the only real question. We could be looking at both Bridges, Knox and Vanderbilt where we pick. I like Vanderbilt's upside the most. I also like the subtle improvements Miles Bridges is making as 3. Still, I'm wary of reaching.
It all depends on Perry next move. I know we want to stay young... but do we make a move to try an acquire another 25 ish talent on a starter level? If we win more Vanderbelt and the guys mentioned might still be there
Finestrg@ 1/17/2018 2:28 PM
Can't understand why anyone's giving Briggs a hard time, on this thread and others.. Dude sticks his neck out with all original ideas on draft prospects/trade targets and always offers reasons why they would fit here, plus good perspective on how to get more out of the current roster/rotation. Just because no one's heard of a guy he's talking about doesn't make what he's saying worthless. Quite the contrary. Some of you guys are insane. Lay off the guy, man. Easily one of my fav. posters here. Always has been, always will be. Keep 'em coming big guy!
