Knicks · Kevin Knox, Mikal or Miles Bridges? (page 2)
I'd be happy with either of the other two.. I'd prefer Knox though. I guess you could call him a tweener too but he seems to see himself as a SF. Plus, when in don't you can't really go wrong with Kentucky
SupremeCommander wrote:Miles is the dreaded SF/pf tweener - no thanksI'd be happy with either of the other two.. I'd prefer Knox though. I guess you could call him a tweener too but he seems to see himself as a SF. Plus, when in don't you can't really go wrong with Kentucky
Are tweeners bad these days?
I guess it would depend on athleticism and being able to space floor as well as defend?
martin wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Miles is the dreaded SF/pf tweener - no thanksI'd be happy with either of the other two.. I'd prefer Knox though. I guess you could call him a tweener too but he seems to see himself as a SF. Plus, when in don't you can't really go wrong with Kentucky
Are tweeners bad these days?
I guess it would depend on athleticism and being able to space floor as well as defend?
I like to think I have a pretty good handle on the draft. I don't remind everyone that I thought, for example, that we should have drafted Andrew Bynum etc but usually when I say I'm interested in a guy he ends up being a decent player. I think my posts here over the years have demonstrated that.
The SF/PF lottery tweener never really lives up to the hype in the NBA. In college there is such a disparity between the players physical abilities. When you are a physically gifted forward in the NCAA you can "play sf" and bully the other players. The lack of speed doesn't bite you in the ass. The guy that comes to mind (because he's on our team) is Michael Beasley. Definitely did not live up to the hype.
Other names that fit the bill: Jonathan Isaac, Jabari Parker, Anthony Bennett, Derrick Williams, Jan Vesley, Marcus Morris
Not all those names are trash, like Jabari Parker, but clearly the Bucks agree... he's getting half the minutes he used to get this year. They could've had Joel Embiid or Aaron Gordon
Back to my point: SF/PF tweeners look way better in college than they do in the pros. My observation is that it is way more pronounced when you are in between SF and PF than PG/SG or PF/C. When you think about it, it makes sense, because you need different skillsets on the perimeter and down low
SupremeCommander wrote:martin wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Miles is the dreaded SF/pf tweener - no thanksI'd be happy with either of the other two.. I'd prefer Knox though. I guess you could call him a tweener too but he seems to see himself as a SF. Plus, when in don't you can't really go wrong with Kentucky
Are tweeners bad these days?
I guess it would depend on athleticism and being able to space floor as well as defend?
I like to think I have a pretty good handle on the draft. I don't remind everyone that I thought, for example, that we should have drafted Andrew Bynum etc but usually when I say I'm interested in a guy he ends up being a decent player. I think my posts here over the years have demonstrated that.
The SF/PF lottery tweener never really lives up to the hype in the NBA. In college there is such a disparity between the players physical abilities. When you are a physically gifted forward in the NCAA you can "play sf" and bully the other players. The lack of speed doesn't bite you in the ass. The guy that comes to mind (because he's on our team) is Michael Beasley. Definitely did not live up to the hype.
Other names that fit the bill: Jonathan Isaac, Jabari Parker, Anthony Bennett, Derrick Williams, Jan Vesley, Marcus Morris
Not all those names are trash, like Jabari Parker, but clearly the Bucks agree... he's getting half the minutes he used to get this year. They could've had Joel Embiid or Aaron Gordon
Back to my point: SF/PF tweeners look way better in college than they do in the pros. My observation is that it is way more pronounced when you are in between SF and PF than PG/SG or PF/C. When you think about it, it makes sense, because you need different skillsets on the perimeter and down low
Different day and age. Keep in mind Parker is coming off of injury, Marcus Morris is solid and Issac is young. Then look at guys like Draymond, Aaron Gordon, Ben Simmons, Saric, Milsap, Thadeus Young etc. Coaches have become more open minded about how to use "tweeners" and some have had great success. Heck, our best player is a "tweeners."
SupremeCommander wrote:martin wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Miles is the dreaded SF/pf tweener - no thanksI'd be happy with either of the other two.. I'd prefer Knox though. I guess you could call him a tweener too but he seems to see himself as a SF. Plus, when in don't you can't really go wrong with Kentucky
Are tweeners bad these days?
I guess it would depend on athleticism and being able to space floor as well as defend?
I like to think I have a pretty good handle on the draft. I don't remind everyone that I thought, for example, that we should have drafted Andrew Bynum etc but usually when I say I'm interested in a guy he ends up being a decent player. I think my posts here over the years have demonstrated that.
The SF/PF lottery tweener never really lives up to the hype in the NBA. In college there is such a disparity between the players physical abilities. When you are a physically gifted forward in the NCAA you can "play sf" and bully the other players. The lack of speed doesn't bite you in the ass. The guy that comes to mind (because he's on our team) is Michael Beasley. Definitely did not live up to the hype.
Other names that fit the bill: Jonathan Isaac, Jabari Parker, Anthony Bennett, Derrick Williams, Jan Vesley, Marcus Morris
Not all those names are trash, like Jabari Parker, but clearly the Bucks agree... he's getting half the minutes he used to get this year. They could've had Joel Embiid or Aaron Gordon
Back to my point: SF/PF tweeners look way better in college than they do in the pros. My observation is that it is way more pronounced when you are in between SF and PF than PG/SG or PF/C. When you think about it, it makes sense, because you need different skillsets on the perimeter and down low
Andrew Bynum was in the 2005 draft... you didn't start posting here till 2006. Get over yourself fam.
Btw Parker just came back from ACL injury, that's why he's getting half his minutes. Embiid is a walking injury and Gordon has been hurt all year.... please spare me the nostradomus dramatics
BigDaddyG wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:martin wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Miles is the dreaded SF/pf tweener - no thanksI'd be happy with either of the other two.. I'd prefer Knox though. I guess you could call him a tweener too but he seems to see himself as a SF. Plus, when in don't you can't really go wrong with Kentucky
Are tweeners bad these days?
I guess it would depend on athleticism and being able to space floor as well as defend?
I like to think I have a pretty good handle on the draft. I don't remind everyone that I thought, for example, that we should have drafted Andrew Bynum etc but usually when I say I'm interested in a guy he ends up being a decent player. I think my posts here over the years have demonstrated that.
The SF/PF lottery tweener never really lives up to the hype in the NBA. In college there is such a disparity between the players physical abilities. When you are a physically gifted forward in the NCAA you can "play sf" and bully the other players. The lack of speed doesn't bite you in the ass. The guy that comes to mind (because he's on our team) is Michael Beasley. Definitely did not live up to the hype.
Other names that fit the bill: Jonathan Isaac, Jabari Parker, Anthony Bennett, Derrick Williams, Jan Vesley, Marcus Morris
Not all those names are trash, like Jabari Parker, but clearly the Bucks agree... he's getting half the minutes he used to get this year. They could've had Joel Embiid or Aaron Gordon
Back to my point: SF/PF tweeners look way better in college than they do in the pros. My observation is that it is way more pronounced when you are in between SF and PF than PG/SG or PF/C. When you think about it, it makes sense, because you need different skillsets on the perimeter and down low
Different day and age. Keep in mind Parker is coming off of injury, Marcus Morris is solid and Issac is young. Then look at guys like Draymond, Aaron Gordon, Ben Simmons, Saric, Milsap, Thadeus Young etc. Coaches have become more open minded about how to use "tweeners" and some have had great success. Heck, our best player is a "tweeners."
Different day and age..? how much more recent could I have done than a lotto pick from last year?
EnySpree wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:martin wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Miles is the dreaded SF/pf tweener - no thanksI'd be happy with either of the other two.. I'd prefer Knox though. I guess you could call him a tweener too but he seems to see himself as a SF. Plus, when in don't you can't really go wrong with Kentucky
Are tweeners bad these days?
I guess it would depend on athleticism and being able to space floor as well as defend?
I like to think I have a pretty good handle on the draft. I don't remind everyone that I thought, for example, that we should have drafted Andrew Bynum etc but usually when I say I'm interested in a guy he ends up being a decent player. I think my posts here over the years have demonstrated that.
The SF/PF lottery tweener never really lives up to the hype in the NBA. In college there is such a disparity between the players physical abilities. When you are a physically gifted forward in the NCAA you can "play sf" and bully the other players. The lack of speed doesn't bite you in the ass. The guy that comes to mind (because he's on our team) is Michael Beasley. Definitely did not live up to the hype.
Other names that fit the bill: Jonathan Isaac, Jabari Parker, Anthony Bennett, Derrick Williams, Jan Vesley, Marcus Morris
Not all those names are trash, like Jabari Parker, but clearly the Bucks agree... he's getting half the minutes he used to get this year. They could've had Joel Embiid or Aaron Gordon
Back to my point: SF/PF tweeners look way better in college than they do in the pros. My observation is that it is way more pronounced when you are in between SF and PF than PG/SG or PF/C. When you think about it, it makes sense, because you need different skillsets on the perimeter and down low
Andrew Bynum was in the 2005 draft... you didn't start posting here till 2006. Get over yourself fam.
Btw Parker just came back from ACL injury, that's why he's getting half his minutes. Embiid is a walking injury and Gordon has been hurt all year.... please spare me the nostradomus dramatics
if you keep acting like a bitch I'll treat you like one you cunt
SupremeCommander wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:martin wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Miles is the dreaded SF/pf tweener - no thanksI'd be happy with either of the other two.. I'd prefer Knox though. I guess you could call him a tweener too but he seems to see himself as a SF. Plus, when in don't you can't really go wrong with Kentucky
Are tweeners bad these days?
I guess it would depend on athleticism and being able to space floor as well as defend?
I like to think I have a pretty good handle on the draft. I don't remind everyone that I thought, for example, that we should have drafted Andrew Bynum etc but usually when I say I'm interested in a guy he ends up being a decent player. I think my posts here over the years have demonstrated that.
The SF/PF lottery tweener never really lives up to the hype in the NBA. In college there is such a disparity between the players physical abilities. When you are a physically gifted forward in the NCAA you can "play sf" and bully the other players. The lack of speed doesn't bite you in the ass. The guy that comes to mind (because he's on our team) is Michael Beasley. Definitely did not live up to the hype.
Other names that fit the bill: Jonathan Isaac, Jabari Parker, Anthony Bennett, Derrick Williams, Jan Vesley, Marcus Morris
Not all those names are trash, like Jabari Parker, but clearly the Bucks agree... he's getting half the minutes he used to get this year. They could've had Joel Embiid or Aaron Gordon
Back to my point: SF/PF tweeners look way better in college than they do in the pros. My observation is that it is way more pronounced when you are in between SF and PF than PG/SG or PF/C. When you think about it, it makes sense, because you need different skillsets on the perimeter and down low
Different day and age. Keep in mind Parker is coming off of injury, Marcus Morris is solid and Issac is young. Then look at guys like Draymond, Aaron Gordon, Ben Simmons, Saric, Milsap, Thadeus Young etc. Coaches have become more open minded about how to use "tweeners" and some have had great success. Heck, our best player is a "tweeners."Different day and age..? how much more recent could I have done than a lotto pick from last year?
Too early to call out Isaac. From what I've read, it seems Orlando still sees him as part of the future. Plus, he's been hurt for a while.
BigDaddyG wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:martin wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Miles is the dreaded SF/pf tweener - no thanksI'd be happy with either of the other two.. I'd prefer Knox though. I guess you could call him a tweener too but he seems to see himself as a SF. Plus, when in don't you can't really go wrong with Kentucky
Are tweeners bad these days?
I guess it would depend on athleticism and being able to space floor as well as defend?
I like to think I have a pretty good handle on the draft. I don't remind everyone that I thought, for example, that we should have drafted Andrew Bynum etc but usually when I say I'm interested in a guy he ends up being a decent player. I think my posts here over the years have demonstrated that.
The SF/PF lottery tweener never really lives up to the hype in the NBA. In college there is such a disparity between the players physical abilities. When you are a physically gifted forward in the NCAA you can "play sf" and bully the other players. The lack of speed doesn't bite you in the ass. The guy that comes to mind (because he's on our team) is Michael Beasley. Definitely did not live up to the hype.
Other names that fit the bill: Jonathan Isaac, Jabari Parker, Anthony Bennett, Derrick Williams, Jan Vesley, Marcus Morris
Not all those names are trash, like Jabari Parker, but clearly the Bucks agree... he's getting half the minutes he used to get this year. They could've had Joel Embiid or Aaron Gordon
Back to my point: SF/PF tweeners look way better in college than they do in the pros. My observation is that it is way more pronounced when you are in between SF and PF than PG/SG or PF/C. When you think about it, it makes sense, because you need different skillsets on the perimeter and down low
Different day and age. Keep in mind Parker is coming off of injury, Marcus Morris is solid and Issac is young. Then look at guys like Draymond, Aaron Gordon, Ben Simmons, Saric, Milsap, Thadeus Young etc. Coaches have become more open minded about how to use "tweeners" and some have had great success. Heck, our best player is a "tweeners."Different day and age..? how much more recent could I have done than a lotto pick from last year?
Too early to call out Isaac. From I've read, it seems Orlando still sees him as part of the future. Plus, he's been hurt for a while.
fair... my entire point is that I don't think Miles is as good as his numbers. He is on the wing but plays like a PF. If his jumper and three point shot improves -- a lot -- I would definitely be in favor of drafting him. I just don't see how you can get real excited about an athletic guy who is 6'7", shoots 48%, 36.75 from three and gets 6.9 RPG. That said, he obviously would be an injection of athleticism, which we sorely need... so I wouldn't be against it,e specially this year. I am not too high on the entire draft class
EnySpree wrote:I think no matter how many games we lose, these are our choices (unless were lucky). We absolutely need a small fwd in this draft. Who do you like out of the three?Dzanan Musa from Bosnia & Herzegovina popped on the radar. He got my attention a little. I'm also a believer in what Jarred Vanderberlt from Kentucky can do. He could be a second rounder if he still comes out cuz of injury. There are alot of small fwd projected to go in the second round. Knicks have 2 picks.
We have so many gaps that SF is only one. When KP returns it will be imperative that he has help on the defensive end and Kanter remains a defensive weakness. Some will argue that point but it’s evident statistically and to those who watch. He’s a 25 minites guy who doesn’t get to play the 4th.
Wendell Carter, Bamba, Williams all suffice ... KOQ will be gone and Noah a nonentity.
That’s why there is increased discussion of Timmy playing the 3 for now while Frank (your boy), Mudiay and Burke play the backcourt.
SupremeCommander wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:martin wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Miles is the dreaded SF/pf tweener - no thanksI'd be happy with either of the other two.. I'd prefer Knox though. I guess you could call him a tweener too but he seems to see himself as a SF. Plus, when in don't you can't really go wrong with Kentucky
Are tweeners bad these days?
I guess it would depend on athleticism and being able to space floor as well as defend?
I like to think I have a pretty good handle on the draft. I don't remind everyone that I thought, for example, that we should have drafted Andrew Bynum etc but usually when I say I'm interested in a guy he ends up being a decent player. I think my posts here over the years have demonstrated that.
The SF/PF lottery tweener never really lives up to the hype in the NBA. In college there is such a disparity between the players physical abilities. When you are a physically gifted forward in the NCAA you can "play sf" and bully the other players. The lack of speed doesn't bite you in the ass. The guy that comes to mind (because he's on our team) is Michael Beasley. Definitely did not live up to the hype.
Other names that fit the bill: Jonathan Isaac, Jabari Parker, Anthony Bennett, Derrick Williams, Jan Vesley, Marcus Morris
Not all those names are trash, like Jabari Parker, but clearly the Bucks agree... he's getting half the minutes he used to get this year. They could've had Joel Embiid or Aaron Gordon
Back to my point: SF/PF tweeners look way better in college than they do in the pros. My observation is that it is way more pronounced when you are in between SF and PF than PG/SG or PF/C. When you think about it, it makes sense, because you need different skillsets on the perimeter and down low
Different day and age. Keep in mind Parker is coming off of injury, Marcus Morris is solid and Issac is young. Then look at guys like Draymond, Aaron Gordon, Ben Simmons, Saric, Milsap, Thadeus Young etc. Coaches have become more open minded about how to use "tweeners" and some have had great success. Heck, our best player is a "tweeners."Different day and age..? how much more recent could I have done than a lotto pick from last year?
Too early to call out Isaac. From I've read, it seems Orlando still sees him as part of the future. Plus, he's been hurt for a while.fair... my entire point is that I don't think Miles is as good as his numbers. He is on the wing but plays like a PF. If his jumper and three point shot improves -- a lot -- I would definitely be in favor of drafting him. I just don't see how you can get real excited about an athletic guy who is 6'7", shoots 48%, 36.75 from three and gets 6.9 RPG. That said, he obviously would be an injection of athleticism, which we sorely need... so I wouldn't be against it,e specially this year. I am not too high on the entire draft class
I agree with both of you guys points. With KP and Frank and Hardaway etc. We need a forward with length who can out the ball on the floor in the Ingram for LA mold. His 16-5-4 at 6-9 with ability to play 2-4 is what we need.
SupremeCommander wrote:Miles is the dreaded SF/pf tweener - no thanksI'd be happy with either of the other two.. I'd prefer Knox though. I guess you could call him a tweener too but he seems to see himself as a SF. Plus, when in don't you can't really go wrong with Kentucky
Kind of like how Draymond Green was the dreaded sf/pf tweener out of MSU?
newyorknewyork wrote:And he looked like a bum his rookie yr. Go figure
This board would have tried to run Ingram out of town after last year.
Bretrobert1 wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Miles is the dreaded SF/pf tweener - no thanksI'd be happy with either of the other two.. I'd prefer Knox though. I guess you could call him a tweener too but he seems to see himself as a SF. Plus, when in don't you can't really go wrong with Kentucky
Kind of like how Draymond Green was the dreaded sf/pf tweener out of MSU?
oh right because taking a flyer on a second round pick is the same thing as betting a lotto pick on something. why don't you go back to giving your clients (read: suckers) financial advice that you pull off an internet basketball forum
also, you are worse than I thought:
"The executor submitted a complaint on behalf of her deceased mother's estate. The executor alleges that she requested the stocks in her mother's estate be liquidated and that the representative did not follow her instructions which resulted in losses in the account."
"Damage Amount Requested
$24,994.42"
you really shouldn't be posting on an internet forum during trading hours
newyorknewyork wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:martin wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Miles is the dreaded SF/pf tweener - no thanksI'd be happy with either of the other two.. I'd prefer Knox though. I guess you could call him a tweener too but he seems to see himself as a SF. Plus, when in don't you can't really go wrong with Kentucky
Are tweeners bad these days?
I guess it would depend on athleticism and being able to space floor as well as defend?
I like to think I have a pretty good handle on the draft. I don't remind everyone that I thought, for example, that we should have drafted Andrew Bynum etc but usually when I say I'm interested in a guy he ends up being a decent player. I think my posts here over the years have demonstrated that.
The SF/PF lottery tweener never really lives up to the hype in the NBA. In college there is such a disparity between the players physical abilities. When you are a physically gifted forward in the NCAA you can "play sf" and bully the other players. The lack of speed doesn't bite you in the ass. The guy that comes to mind (because he's on our team) is Michael Beasley. Definitely did not live up to the hype.
Other names that fit the bill: Jonathan Isaac, Jabari Parker, Anthony Bennett, Derrick Williams, Jan Vesley, Marcus Morris
Not all those names are trash, like Jabari Parker, but clearly the Bucks agree... he's getting half the minutes he used to get this year. They could've had Joel Embiid or Aaron Gordon
Back to my point: SF/PF tweeners look way better in college than they do in the pros. My observation is that it is way more pronounced when you are in between SF and PF than PG/SG or PF/C. When you think about it, it makes sense, because you need different skillsets on the perimeter and down low
Different day and age. Keep in mind Parker is coming off of injury, Marcus Morris is solid and Issac is young. Then look at guys like Draymond, Aaron Gordon, Ben Simmons, Saric, Milsap, Thadeus Young etc. Coaches have become more open minded about how to use "tweeners" and some have had great success. Heck, our best player is a "tweeners."Different day and age..? how much more recent could I have done than a lotto pick from last year?
Too early to call out Isaac. From I've read, it seems Orlando still sees him as part of the future. Plus, he's been hurt for a while.fair... my entire point is that I don't think Miles is as good as his numbers. He is on the wing but plays like a PF. If his jumper and three point shot improves -- a lot -- I would definitely be in favor of drafting him. I just don't see how you can get real excited about an athletic guy who is 6'7", shoots 48%, 36.75 from three and gets 6.9 RPG. That said, he obviously would be an injection of athleticism, which we sorely need... so I wouldn't be against it,e specially this year. I am not too high on the entire draft class
I agree with both of you guys points. With KP and Frank and Hardaway etc. We need a forward with length who can out the ball on the floor in the Ingram for LA mold. His 16-5-4 at 6-9 with ability to play 2-4 is what we need.
we really do need an elite two way SF... too bad they don't grow on trees. sometimes you have to try and buy low... i doubt the Suns would have interest in trading Josh Jackson but I would definitely call and see if they would have interest in this year's pick and the Bulls' second
SupremeCommander wrote:Bretrobert1 wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Miles is the dreaded SF/pf tweener - no thanksI'd be happy with either of the other two.. I'd prefer Knox though. I guess you could call him a tweener too but he seems to see himself as a SF. Plus, when in don't you can't really go wrong with Kentucky
Kind of like how Draymond Green was the dreaded sf/pf tweener out of MSU?
oh right because taking a flyer on a second round pick is the same thing as betting a lotto pick on something. why don't you go back to giving your clients (read: suckers) financial advice that you pull off an internet basketball forum
also, you are worse than I thought:
"The executor submitted a complaint on behalf of her deceased mother's estate. The executor alleges that she requested the stocks in her mother's estate be liquidated and that the representative did not follow her instructions which resulted in losses in the account."
"Damage Amount Requested
$24,994.42"you really shouldn't be posting on an internet forum during trading hours
dude, why?
SupremeCommander wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:martin wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Miles is the dreaded SF/pf tweener - no thanksI'd be happy with either of the other two.. I'd prefer Knox though. I guess you could call him a tweener too but he seems to see himself as a SF. Plus, when in don't you can't really go wrong with Kentucky
Are tweeners bad these days?
I guess it would depend on athleticism and being able to space floor as well as defend?
I like to think I have a pretty good handle on the draft. I don't remind everyone that I thought, for example, that we should have drafted Andrew Bynum etc but usually when I say I'm interested in a guy he ends up being a decent player. I think my posts here over the years have demonstrated that.
The SF/PF lottery tweener never really lives up to the hype in the NBA. In college there is such a disparity between the players physical abilities. When you are a physically gifted forward in the NCAA you can "play sf" and bully the other players. The lack of speed doesn't bite you in the ass. The guy that comes to mind (because he's on our team) is Michael Beasley. Definitely did not live up to the hype.
Other names that fit the bill: Jonathan Isaac, Jabari Parker, Anthony Bennett, Derrick Williams, Jan Vesley, Marcus Morris
Not all those names are trash, like Jabari Parker, but clearly the Bucks agree... he's getting half the minutes he used to get this year. They could've had Joel Embiid or Aaron Gordon
Back to my point: SF/PF tweeners look way better in college than they do in the pros. My observation is that it is way more pronounced when you are in between SF and PF than PG/SG or PF/C. When you think about it, it makes sense, because you need different skillsets on the perimeter and down low
Different day and age. Keep in mind Parker is coming off of injury, Marcus Morris is solid and Issac is young. Then look at guys like Draymond, Aaron Gordon, Ben Simmons, Saric, Milsap, Thadeus Young etc. Coaches have become more open minded about how to use "tweeners" and some have had great success. Heck, our best player is a "tweeners."Different day and age..? how much more recent could I have done than a lotto pick from last year?
Too early to call out Isaac. From I've read, it seems Orlando still sees him as part of the future. Plus, he's been hurt for a while.fair... my entire point is that I don't think Miles is as good as his numbers. He is on the wing but plays like a PF. If his jumper and three point shot improves -- a lot -- I would definitely be in favor of drafting him. I just don't see how you can get real excited about an athletic guy who is 6'7", shoots 48%, 36.75 from three and gets 6.9 RPG. That said, he obviously would be an injection of athleticism, which we sorely need... so I wouldn't be against it,e specially this year. I am not too high on the entire draft class
I agree with both of you guys points. With KP and Frank and Hardaway etc. We need a forward with length who can out the ball on the floor in the Ingram for LA mold. His 16-5-4 at 6-9 with ability to play 2-4 is what we need.
we really do need an elite two way SF... too bad they don't grow on trees. sometimes you have to try and buy low... i doubt the Suns would have interest in trading Josh Jackson but I would definitely call and see if they would have interest in this year's pick and the Bulls' second
JJ has improved his production drastically. Don't see Suns trading him away unless for a superstar as it stands now.
newyorknewyork wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:martin wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Miles is the dreaded SF/pf tweener - no thanksI'd be happy with either of the other two.. I'd prefer Knox though. I guess you could call him a tweener too but he seems to see himself as a SF. Plus, when in don't you can't really go wrong with Kentucky
Are tweeners bad these days?
I guess it would depend on athleticism and being able to space floor as well as defend?
I like to think I have a pretty good handle on the draft. I don't remind everyone that I thought, for example, that we should have drafted Andrew Bynum etc but usually when I say I'm interested in a guy he ends up being a decent player. I think my posts here over the years have demonstrated that.
The SF/PF lottery tweener never really lives up to the hype in the NBA. In college there is such a disparity between the players physical abilities. When you are a physically gifted forward in the NCAA you can "play sf" and bully the other players. The lack of speed doesn't bite you in the ass. The guy that comes to mind (because he's on our team) is Michael Beasley. Definitely did not live up to the hype.
Other names that fit the bill: Jonathan Isaac, Jabari Parker, Anthony Bennett, Derrick Williams, Jan Vesley, Marcus Morris
Not all those names are trash, like Jabari Parker, but clearly the Bucks agree... he's getting half the minutes he used to get this year. They could've had Joel Embiid or Aaron Gordon
Back to my point: SF/PF tweeners look way better in college than they do in the pros. My observation is that it is way more pronounced when you are in between SF and PF than PG/SG or PF/C. When you think about it, it makes sense, because you need different skillsets on the perimeter and down low
Different day and age. Keep in mind Parker is coming off of injury, Marcus Morris is solid and Issac is young. Then look at guys like Draymond, Aaron Gordon, Ben Simmons, Saric, Milsap, Thadeus Young etc. Coaches have become more open minded about how to use "tweeners" and some have had great success. Heck, our best player is a "tweeners."Different day and age..? how much more recent could I have done than a lotto pick from last year?
Too early to call out Isaac. From I've read, it seems Orlando still sees him as part of the future. Plus, he's been hurt for a while.fair... my entire point is that I don't think Miles is as good as his numbers. He is on the wing but plays like a PF. If his jumper and three point shot improves -- a lot -- I would definitely be in favor of drafting him. I just don't see how you can get real excited about an athletic guy who is 6'7", shoots 48%, 36.75 from three and gets 6.9 RPG. That said, he obviously would be an injection of athleticism, which we sorely need... so I wouldn't be against it,e specially this year. I am not too high on the entire draft class
I agree with both of you guys points. With KP and Frank and Hardaway etc. We need a forward with length who can out the ball on the floor in the Ingram for LA mold. His 16-5-4 at 6-9 with ability to play 2-4 is what we need.
we really do need an elite two way SF... too bad they don't grow on trees. sometimes you have to try and buy low... i doubt the Suns would have interest in trading Josh Jackson but I would definitely call and see if they would have interest in this year's pick and the Bulls' second
JJ has improved his production drastically. Don't see Suns trading him away unless for a superstar as it stands now.
Jackson can't shoot a lick. I would rather just draft Mikal. Better shooter and defender.
Knixkik wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:martin wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:Miles is the dreaded SF/pf tweener - no thanksI'd be happy with either of the other two.. I'd prefer Knox though. I guess you could call him a tweener too but he seems to see himself as a SF. Plus, when in don't you can't really go wrong with Kentucky
Are tweeners bad these days?
I guess it would depend on athleticism and being able to space floor as well as defend?
I like to think I have a pretty good handle on the draft. I don't remind everyone that I thought, for example, that we should have drafted Andrew Bynum etc but usually when I say I'm interested in a guy he ends up being a decent player. I think my posts here over the years have demonstrated that.
The SF/PF lottery tweener never really lives up to the hype in the NBA. In college there is such a disparity between the players physical abilities. When you are a physically gifted forward in the NCAA you can "play sf" and bully the other players. The lack of speed doesn't bite you in the ass. The guy that comes to mind (because he's on our team) is Michael Beasley. Definitely did not live up to the hype.
Other names that fit the bill: Jonathan Isaac, Jabari Parker, Anthony Bennett, Derrick Williams, Jan Vesley, Marcus Morris
Not all those names are trash, like Jabari Parker, but clearly the Bucks agree... he's getting half the minutes he used to get this year. They could've had Joel Embiid or Aaron Gordon
Back to my point: SF/PF tweeners look way better in college than they do in the pros. My observation is that it is way more pronounced when you are in between SF and PF than PG/SG or PF/C. When you think about it, it makes sense, because you need different skillsets on the perimeter and down low
Different day and age. Keep in mind Parker is coming off of injury, Marcus Morris is solid and Issac is young. Then look at guys like Draymond, Aaron Gordon, Ben Simmons, Saric, Milsap, Thadeus Young etc. Coaches have become more open minded about how to use "tweeners" and some have had great success. Heck, our best player is a "tweeners."Different day and age..? how much more recent could I have done than a lotto pick from last year?
Too early to call out Isaac. From I've read, it seems Orlando still sees him as part of the future. Plus, he's been hurt for a while.fair... my entire point is that I don't think Miles is as good as his numbers. He is on the wing but plays like a PF. If his jumper and three point shot improves -- a lot -- I would definitely be in favor of drafting him. I just don't see how you can get real excited about an athletic guy who is 6'7", shoots 48%, 36.75 from three and gets 6.9 RPG. That said, he obviously would be an injection of athleticism, which we sorely need... so I wouldn't be against it,e specially this year. I am not too high on the entire draft class
I agree with both of you guys points. With KP and Frank and Hardaway etc. We need a forward with length who can out the ball on the floor in the Ingram for LA mold. His 16-5-4 at 6-9 with ability to play 2-4 is what we need.
we really do need an elite two way SF... too bad they don't grow on trees. sometimes you have to try and buy low... i doubt the Suns would have interest in trading Josh Jackson but I would definitely call and see if they would have interest in this year's pick and the Bulls' second
JJ has improved his production drastically. Don't see Suns trading him away unless for a superstar as it stands now.
Jackson can't shoot a lick. I would rather just draft Mikal. Better shooter and defender.
it's certainly possible that he is a bust... but I still see the ceiling. I tend to agree with you newyorknewyork but there are still plenty of people like Knixkix that have no interest. The reason I'd be interested is again because i don't think the draft class is very good. I like Luka Doncic a lot but I don't think i'd be excited to draft him #1 overall, same with Ayton