This Carter kid from WVU seems to have a decent feel for the game. And their center is a warrior
SupremeCommander wrote:As far as our first goes, the guy I'd like to see drafted the most is Colin Sexton (by a wide margin), and then followed by 2a Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and 2b Mikal Bridges. Sexton is the goods. Knox hasn't done anything to make me think he is the best player on the team. I'm thinking he is Marvin Williams 2.0Guys in the second round that I'm interested in would Kendall Stephens, Jalen Brunson, Keenan Evans, Jacob Evans, Allonzo Trier, and Jevon Carter in no particular order. I would probably be most interest in Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk in the second round, but namely because he was so highly touted when he entered the NCAA. He has a lot of ability but hasn't quite lived up to it. What you'll notice about those names is that they are all essentially guards... which is unfortunate but we need a lot of BPAs
Couldnt agree with you more on Sexton...I saw him play live in HS and he is the real deal...Think Aaron Faox with a better jumper. Probably a little stronger than Fox as well....If we dont land a pg in the first round, if Jalen Brunson is definitely the pg i'm going after in the 2nd round if he's available....Jay wright and his staff do a great job of developing their players and Brunson has improved each year, particulary his jumper. Brunson is not the quickest of foot, but he's a smart player who uses hesitations, is shifty and keeps the defense off balance. He see's the floor very well, can shoot the 3, has a mid range game, can post up smaller weaker guards, and is a true coach on the floor. Honestly, he's a better point guard than anyone on our roster right now....
Brunson and Carter are both decent gets in the second round. Mikal Bridges is my choice for first round, I don't know where SGA is projected, but he seems to be good value of we can get a late first from somewhere.
SGA? Sorry, the abbreviation is lost on me, someone please write his name out.
Nalod wrote:SGA? Sorry, the abbreviation is lost on me, someone please write his name out.
Shai Gilgeous Alexander
meloshouldgo wrote:Brunson and Carter are both decent gets in the second round. Mikal Bridges is my choice for first round, I don't know where SGA is projected, but he seems to be good value of we can get a late first from somewhere.
I would be happy with SGA
I would prefer Sexton
Would be fine with Bridges
As long as three teams don't get ahead of the Knicks I think we'll end up with a decent player
Malik Newman, depending on what he does, would be a nice get in the second round. He had a great tourney so far, and he freakin crushed Duke
meloshouldgo wrote:Nalod wrote:SGA? Sorry, the abbreviation is lost on me, someone please write his name out.
Shai Gilgeous Alexander
Thx!
Uptown wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:As far as our first goes, the guy I'd like to see drafted the most is Colin Sexton (by a wide margin), and then followed by 2a Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and 2b Mikal Bridges. Sexton is the goods. Knox hasn't done anything to make me think he is the best player on the team. I'm thinking he is Marvin Williams 2.0Guys in the second round that I'm interested in would Kendall Stephens, Jalen Brunson, Keenan Evans, Jacob Evans, Allonzo Trier, and Jevon Carter in no particular order. I would probably be most interest in Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk in the second round, but namely because he was so highly touted when he entered the NCAA. He has a lot of ability but hasn't quite lived up to it. What you'll notice about those names is that they are all essentially guards... which is unfortunate but we need a lot of BPAs
Couldnt agree with you more on Sexton...I saw him play live in HS and he is the real deal...Think Aaron Faox with a better jumper. Probably a little stronger than Fox as well....If we dont land a pg in the first round, if Jalen Brunson is definitely the pg i'm going after in the 2nd round if he's available....Jay wright and his staff do a great job of developing their players and Brunson has improved each year, particulary his jumper. Brunson is not the quickest of foot, but he's a smart player who uses hesitations, is shifty and keeps the defense off balance. He see's the floor very well, can shoot the 3, has a mid range game, can post up smaller weaker guards, and is a true coach on the floor. Honestly, he's a better point guard than anyone on our roster right now....
missed this... I don't think Sexton gets enough cred because all the programs that aren't UK in the SEC are trash. As I've said in other threads, Sexton was the best player the UK/Alabama game in the SEC tournament... kinda stands out when this year's Kentucky team was right up their with Duke in terms of raw talent
SupremeCommander wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:Brunson and Carter are both decent gets in the second round. Mikal Bridges is my choice for first round, I don't know where SGA is projected, but he seems to be good value of we can get a late first from somewhere.
I would be happy with SGA
I would prefer Sexton
Would be fine with Bridges
As long as three teams don't get ahead of the Knicks I think we'll end up with a decent player
So to be clear you would take Sexton or SGA at the 9th? I don't see their value being that high. I saw a little bit of Sexton and didn't see anything impressive. Bridges a solid two way player that can be both a complimentary piece or a focal point - eventually.
meloshouldgo wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:Brunson and Carter are both decent gets in the second round. Mikal Bridges is my choice for first round, I don't know where SGA is projected, but he seems to be good value of we can get a late first from somewhere.
I would be happy with SGA
I would prefer Sexton
Would be fine with Bridges
As long as three teams don't get ahead of the Knicks I think we'll end up with a decent player
So to be clear you would take Sexton or SGA at the 9th? I don't see their value being that high. I saw a little bit of Sexton and didn't see anything impressive. Bridges a solid two way player that can be both a complimentary piece or a focal point - eventually.
Haven't seen Mikal much but is there sentiment that he can eventually be a focal point type of guy at the NBA level?
Or he is more of a high-level 2-way potential guy?
martin wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:Brunson and Carter are both decent gets in the second round. Mikal Bridges is my choice for first round, I don't know where SGA is projected, but he seems to be good value of we can get a late first from somewhere.
I would be happy with SGA
I would prefer Sexton
Would be fine with Bridges
As long as three teams don't get ahead of the Knicks I think we'll end up with a decent player
So to be clear you would take Sexton or SGA at the 9th? I don't see their value being that high. I saw a little bit of Sexton and didn't see anything impressive. Bridges a solid two way player that can be both a complimentary piece or a focal point - eventually.
Haven't seen Mikal much but is there sentiment that he can eventually be a focal point type of guy at the NBA level?
Or he is more of a high-level 2-way potential guy?
Definitely a high level 2-way potential guy. A guy who fits in well with this positionless game that's all the rave these days. I think Otto Porter is probably the best comparison. He also reminds me a bit of Kerry Kittles. Kittles wasn't the most dynamic creator, but he had a good feel for spacing and was a solid shooter. Of course, prime Kittles was a heckuva lot faster and Mykal is bigger and longer.
meloshouldgo wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:Brunson and Carter are both decent gets in the second round. Mikal Bridges is my choice for first round, I don't know where SGA is projected, but he seems to be good value of we can get a late first from somewhere.
I would be happy with SGA
I would prefer Sexton
Would be fine with Bridges
As long as three teams don't get ahead of the Knicks I think we'll end up with a decent player
So to be clear you would take Sexton or SGA at the 9th? I don't see their value being that high. I saw a little bit of Sexton and didn't see anything impressive. Bridges a solid two way player that can be both a complimentary piece or a focal point - eventually.
Sexton (assuming Trey Burke comes back to reality)
BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:Brunson and Carter are both decent gets in the second round. Mikal Bridges is my choice for first round, I don't know where SGA is projected, but he seems to be good value of we can get a late first from somewhere.
I would be happy with SGA
I would prefer Sexton
Would be fine with Bridges
As long as three teams don't get ahead of the Knicks I think we'll end up with a decent player
So to be clear you would take Sexton or SGA at the 9th? I don't see their value being that high. I saw a little bit of Sexton and didn't see anything impressive. Bridges a solid two way player that can be both a complimentary piece or a focal point - eventually.
Haven't seen Mikal much but is there sentiment that he can eventually be a focal point type of guy at the NBA level?
Or he is more of a high-level 2-way potential guy?
Definitely a high level 2-way potential guy. A guy who fits in well with this positionless game that's all the rave these days. I think Otto Porter is probably the best comparison. He also reminds me a bit of Kerry Kittles. Kittles wasn't the most dynamic creator, but he had a good feel for spacing and was a solid shooter. Of course, prime Kittles was a heckuva lot faster and Mykal is bigger and longer.
I agree with that... I see Bridges as a slightly bigger/better Courtney Lee
I see bridges as Otto Porter now
TripleThreat wrote:martin wrote:Haven't seen Mikal much but is there sentiment that he can eventually be a focal point type of guy at the NBA level?Or he is more of a high-level 2-way potential guy?
He doesn't have elite athleticism (relative to NBA standards, of course) and he can't create his own shot. He does nothing at an elite level but does everything well.
He will profile out as a position less type wing, who can offer 3 and D skill sets. He's actually a very good decision maker on the court but again he is offensively raw. His fundamentals and mechanics are very good. His footwork is very good.
To break out, he'll need some Goran Dragic to his game ( develop an arsenal of moves/counters/chess match mentality) On the plus side, he operates well in traffic and with close contact. That's innate, that's just something you can't really teach someone.
I think he breaks out. To paraphrase Bill Belichick (F**k the Patriots BTW), you have to stop looking at what you hope a guy could do one day, and look at what he can do and has done. What keys me in on him is that his fundamentals are consistent. Good game, bad game, early game, tired, bad shooting stretch, good shooting stretch, getting hammered, refs on his side, refs jobbing him, he's just very level all the time. I think the "killer instinct" thing is overblown with NBA prospects. That's nice to sell shoes but not everyone needs to have the Kobe Bryant mentality to win.
shooting the 3 at .436 isnt elite? Pretty sure it is. Is there a more coveted skill in the league right now than to be able to defend multiple spots and knock down 3's at +40%? I doubt he's there when we pick
TripleThreat wrote:martin wrote:Haven't seen Mikal much but is there sentiment that he can eventually be a focal point type of guy at the NBA level?Or he is more of a high-level 2-way potential guy?
He doesn't have elite athleticism (relative to NBA standards, of course) and he can't create his own shot. He does nothing at an elite level but does everything well.
He will profile out as a position less type wing, who can offer 3 and D skill sets. He's actually a very good decision maker on the court but again he is offensively raw. His fundamentals and mechanics are very good. His footwork is very good.
To break out, he'll need some Goran Dragic to his game ( develop an arsenal of moves/counters/chess match mentality) On the plus side, he operates well in traffic and with close contact. That's innate, that's just something you can't really teach someone.
I think he breaks out. To paraphrase Bill Belichick (F**k the Patriots BTW), you have to stop looking at what you hope a guy could do one day, and look at what he can do and has done. What keys me in on him is that his fundamentals are consistent. Good game, bad game, early game, tired, bad shooting stretch, good shooting stretch, getting hammered, refs on his side, refs jobbing him, he's just very level all the time. I think the "killer instinct" thing is overblown with NBA prospects. That's nice to sell shoes but not everyone needs to have the Kobe Bryant mentality to win.
Took Goran a few years to be Goran. 9th pick open concept is no player is elite.
fishmike wrote:TripleThreat wrote:martin wrote:Haven't seen Mikal much but is there sentiment that he can eventually be a focal point type of guy at the NBA level?Or he is more of a high-level 2-way potential guy?
He doesn't have elite athleticism (relative to NBA standards, of course) and he can't create his own shot. He does nothing at an elite level but does everything well.
He will profile out as a position less type wing, who can offer 3 and D skill sets. He's actually a very good decision maker on the court but again he is offensively raw. His fundamentals and mechanics are very good. His footwork is very good.
To break out, he'll need some Goran Dragic to his game ( develop an arsenal of moves/counters/chess match mentality) On the plus side, he operates well in traffic and with close contact. That's innate, that's just something you can't really teach someone.
I think he breaks out. To paraphrase Bill Belichick (F**k the Patriots BTW), you have to stop looking at what you hope a guy could do one day, and look at what he can do and has done. What keys me in on him is that his fundamentals are consistent. Good game, bad game, early game, tired, bad shooting stretch, good shooting stretch, getting hammered, refs on his side, refs jobbing him, he's just very level all the time. I think the "killer instinct" thing is overblown with NBA prospects. That's nice to sell shoes but not everyone needs to have the Kobe Bryant mentality to win.
shooting the 3 at .436 isnt elite? Pretty sure it is. Is there a more coveted skill in the league right now than to be able to defend multiple spots and knock down 3's at +40%? I doubt he's there when we pick
Guys are just taking shit in here like it's all good. Just saying anything. Guys don't even watch games and never seen the guys play and have super opinions. Its ridiculous.
EnySpree wrote:fishmike wrote:TripleThreat wrote:martin wrote:Haven't seen Mikal much but is there sentiment that he can eventually be a focal point type of guy at the NBA level?Or he is more of a high-level 2-way potential guy?
He doesn't have elite athleticism (relative to NBA standards, of course) and he can't create his own shot. He does nothing at an elite level but does everything well.
He will profile out as a position less type wing, who can offer 3 and D skill sets. He's actually a very good decision maker on the court but again he is offensively raw. His fundamentals and mechanics are very good. His footwork is very good.
To break out, he'll need some Goran Dragic to his game ( develop an arsenal of moves/counters/chess match mentality) On the plus side, he operates well in traffic and with close contact. That's innate, that's just something you can't really teach someone.
I think he breaks out. To paraphrase Bill Belichick (F**k the Patriots BTW), you have to stop looking at what you hope a guy could do one day, and look at what he can do and has done. What keys me in on him is that his fundamentals are consistent. Good game, bad game, early game, tired, bad shooting stretch, good shooting stretch, getting hammered, refs on his side, refs jobbing him, he's just very level all the time. I think the "killer instinct" thing is overblown with NBA prospects. That's nice to sell shoes but not everyone needs to have the Kobe Bryant mentality to win.
shooting the 3 at .436 isnt elite? Pretty sure it is. Is there a more coveted skill in the league right now than to be able to defend multiple spots and knock down 3's at +40%? I doubt he's there when we pick
Guys are just taking shit in here like it's all good. Just saying anything. Guys don't even watch games and never seen the guys play and have super opinions. Its ridiculous.
eny, who are you talking to?
The Paschall kid on Villanova has been awesome. Can't believe he is from Dobbs Ferry and I had no idea who he was until the tournament.
CrushAlot wrote:The Paschall kid on Villanova has been awesome. Can't believe he is from Dobbs Ferry and I had no idea who he was until the tournament.
yeah... the guy that's impressed me the most that will be playing tonight is Moritz Wagner
