Presti is hurting Carmelo's trade value.
On a separate but related note, anyone else thinking Presti has lost his magic, or at a minimum his organization should ban him from trades?
he definitely got major points for not flubbing Durant, Harden, Westbrook picks and a host of others. Very good at draft (though not perfect)
BUT
sold Harden short, because he was worried about Ibaka
got nothing for Durant
Probably is wishing he kept Oladipo right around now
Wondering what he'll do with Carmelo now -- same too for PG
Chandler wrote:Presti is hurting Carmelo's trade value. On a separate but related note, anyone else thinking Presti has lost his magic, or at a minimum his organization should ban him from trades?
he definitely got major points for not flubbing Durant, Harden, Westbrook picks and a host of others. Very good at draft (though not perfect)
BUT
sold Harden short, because he was worried about Ibaka
got nothing for Durant
Probably is wishing he kept Oladipo right around now
Wondering what he'll do with Carmelo now -- same too for PG
good points. Wonder what could have been done if Presti re-tooled around Durant and Harden instead of what transpired
Chandler wrote:Presti is hurting Carmelo's trade value. On a separate but related note, anyone else thinking Presti has lost his magic, or at a minimum his organization should ban him from trades?
he definitely got major points for not flubbing Durant, Harden, Westbrook picks and a host of others. Very good at draft (though not perfect)
BUT
sold Harden short, because he was worried about Ibaka
got nothing for Durant
Probably is wishing he kept Oladipo right around now
Wondering what he'll do with Carmelo now -- same too for PG
All the drama he is creating talking to trhe press, it's messing with poor Melo's game. instead on 6-21, he is now shooting 3-23! But he is an ELITE scorer, that much is certain.
Chandler wrote:Presti is hurting Carmelo's trade value. On a separate but related note, anyone else thinking Presti has lost his magic, or at a minimum his organization should ban him from trades?
he definitely got major points for not flubbing Durant, Harden, Westbrook picks and a host of others. Very good at draft (though not perfect)
BUT
sold Harden short, because he was worried about Ibaka
got nothing for Durant
Probably is wishing he kept Oladipo right around now
Wondering what he'll do with Carmelo now -- same too for PG
He has had a rough patch for sure. Taking on Melo's deal for that money and a NYC. Was really bad. I thought Melo might be okay in Houston with Paul. He was a bad fit in OKC and has aged quickly. Also, he has Westbrook locked into a huge deal that may come back to hurt the franchise.
martin wrote:Chandler wrote:Presti is hurting Carmelo's trade value. On a separate but related note, anyone else thinking Presti has lost his magic, or at a minimum his organization should ban him from trades?
he definitely got major points for not flubbing Durant, Harden, Westbrook picks and a host of others. Very good at draft (though not perfect)
BUT
sold Harden short, because he was worried about Ibaka
got nothing for Durant
Probably is wishing he kept Oladipo right around now
Wondering what he'll do with Carmelo now -- same too for PG
good points. Wonder what could have been done if Presti re-tooled around Durant and Harden instead of what transpired
Would of got a lot more for Westbrook in trade.
Vmart wrote:Dude made living on being one dimensional. Never developed his game to be better than he was.
I will always think of Melo as a player who could have been so much better than he was
Bonn1997 wrote:Vmart wrote:Dude made living on being one dimensional. Never developed his game to be better than he was.
I will always think of Melo as a player who could have been so much better than he was
He just can't get with right fit.
Even now that he's role was reduce to spot up shooter, and playing with WB (a stat collector) can seriously be a challenge for any other scorer. Exactly why KD was like "I'm outta here this dude is tripping"
West brook won't say it publicly, but he is more interest in triple doubles and putting up big #s than naything else
knicks1248 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Vmart wrote:Dude made living on being one dimensional. Never developed his game to be better than he was.
I will always think of Melo as a player who could have been so much better than he was
He just can't get with right fit.
Even now that he's role was reduce to spot up shooter, and playing with WB (a stat collector) can seriously be a challenge for any other scorer. Exactly why KD was like "I'm outta here this dude is tripping"
West brook won't say it publicly, but he is more interest in triple doubles and putting up big #s than naything else
maybe if he made some baskets he would be a better fit.
Jmpasq wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:fishmike wrote:franco12 wrote:it is going to be fascinating if Melo opts in or out of the last year of his contract.I don't see him getting any contract offer above min vet 1 year!
cmon... you really think he's opting out of almost $30mm??? He's gonna collect his big pay day then take some MLE type deal for some team he's gonna say he's always wanted to be a part of
He may retire after this contract runs out.
I'd trade for him, Hardaway and Lee. We can super tank this year and free up a crap load of cap space
Oh so you’re willing yo put up with the wincing faces he makes everytime he doesn’t have the ball. Quite frequently on defense actually.
I want out from Mills awful Hardaway contract. Not a bad player just putrid timing
THJ's contract is not that bad, only because he's 24, and he wants to win more than anything. All he needs is the right coach, and fiz maybe the guy.
knicks1248 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Vmart wrote:Dude made living on being one dimensional. Never developed his game to be better than he was.
I will always think of Melo as a player who could have been so much better than he was
He just can't get with right fit.
Even now that he's role was reduce to spot up shooter, and playing with WB (a stat collector) can seriously be a challenge for any other scorer. Exactly why KD was like "I'm outta here this dude is tripping"
West brook won't say it publicly, but he is more interest in triple doubles and putting up big #s than naything else
West Brook? Two names? You abbrieved Russell WestBrooks name to WB? That's funny!
West brook won't say it publicly, but he is more interest in triple doubles and putting up big #s than naything else
Ok, he won't say it publically, but he said it to you?
If he didn't , and we all going to assume this then your making shyt up again and its why few take you seriously because you lose cred.
Westbrook did not talk to you in private, so why you saying you know his private thoughts?
Oh by the way, AO, or "Anth Ony" has done this for years and years. Say one thing, do another.
Now if you want to say about West Brook, or Anth Ony "their play would indicate a strong motivation is individual stats than team's collective success". That says "This is what I think".
DR, or "Du Rant" "exactly"? I think that contributed to his leaving but there has been a lot written about his departure than the one quote you "exactly" refer to.
Again, your making shyt up.
knicks1248 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:fishmike wrote:franco12 wrote:it is going to be fascinating if Melo opts in or out of the last year of his contract.I don't see him getting any contract offer above min vet 1 year!
cmon... you really think he's opting out of almost $30mm??? He's gonna collect his big pay day then take some MLE type deal for some team he's gonna say he's always wanted to be a part of
He may retire after this contract runs out.
I'd trade for him, Hardaway and Lee. We can super tank this year and free up a crap load of cap space
Oh so you’re willing yo put up with the wincing faces he makes everytime he doesn’t have the ball. Quite frequently on defense actually.
I want out from Mills awful Hardaway contract. Not a bad player just putrid timing
THJ's contract is not that bad, only because he's 24, and he wants to win more than anything. All he needs is the right coach, and fiz maybe the guy.
What Bonn said (no thoughts on Fizdale Bonn?)
Melo could have been just as good as Wade, if not better That season Melo led the team in assts, seems to have been just to show he could do it. At the same time he was a magnet for things that were more about the roster. Wasnt one or the other.
As for THJ. Fizdale is going to like that he is second in the league in taking charges this season. More than his teammates combined. It bears repeating that Timmy isnt a soft player. Some of those hits were pretty bad.
They're both passionate about the game, I see good things happening.
GustavBahler wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:fishmike wrote:franco12 wrote:it is going to be fascinating if Melo opts in or out of the last year of his contract.I don't see him getting any contract offer above min vet 1 year!
cmon... you really think he's opting out of almost $30mm??? He's gonna collect his big pay day then take some MLE type deal for some team he's gonna say he's always wanted to be a part of
He may retire after this contract runs out.
I'd trade for him, Hardaway and Lee. We can super tank this year and free up a crap load of cap space
Oh so you’re willing yo put up with the wincing faces he makes everytime he doesn’t have the ball. Quite frequently on defense actually.
I want out from Mills awful Hardaway contract. Not a bad player just putrid timing
THJ's contract is not that bad, only because he's 24, and he wants to win more than anything. All he needs is the right coach, and fiz maybe the guy.
What Bonn said (no thoughts on Fizdale Bonn?)
Melo could have been just as good as Wade, if not better That season Melo led the team in assts, seems to have been just to show he could do it. At the same time he was a magnet for things that were more about the roster. Wasnt one or the other.
As for THJ. Fizdale is going to like that he is second in the league in taking charges this season. More than his teammates combined. It bears repeating that Timmy isnt a soft player. Some of those hits were pretty bad.
They're both passionate about the game, I see good things happening.
Good take. The rhetoric that THjr is over paid and some how ruined the franchise is over done. Timmy is paid like an average SG and he had a very uneven season.
My belief is the pressure of the contract and being now the second option had him doing too much. Dude needs to slow down and let the game come to him.
I think he has some upside still, not physically as the kid can play but when to be the man and when to play in the flow.
Timmy, Burke, Frank and Mudiay are four very physically capable players. Nalod does not know how there roles will sorted out. Obviously Mudiay and frank being very young with bigger upside then Timmy and Burke.
GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:blkexec wrote:Bring Melo back....
BAN 
Off the bench would be kind of funny, considering.
I would be happy to trade Noah and Lee for Melo - and then let him stink it up next year as we tank - or just buy him out.
If OKC buys him out, aren't they stuck with that money on their cap? So that locks them out for a year.
Lee & Noah - probably not the best they could do. Who knows - maybe we can include Kanter in a S&T.
But the bigger question which the video above touched on- is Melo on an NBA roster next season? He should talk to Marbury about China! Good for your brand Melo!
franco12 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:blkexec wrote:Bring Melo back....
BAN
Off the bench would be kind of funny, considering.
I would be happy to trade Noah and Lee for Melo - and then let him stink it up next year as we tank - or just buy him out.
If OKC buys him out, aren't they stuck with that money on their cap? So that locks them out for a year.
Lee & Noah - probably not the best they could do. Who knows - maybe we can include Kanter in a S&T.
But the bigger question which the video above touched on- is Melo on an NBA roster next season? He should talk to Marbury about China! Good for your brand Melo!
We need s SF....and melo will have a hard time attaching another team. After his buyout and when okc throw melo in the dumpster....we can go trash hunting for cheep labor. Convince Melo that he has a future if he accepts a bench role in NYC
