Knicks · Game Thread: To "Mav or Mav Not...." that is the question. (page 17)

meloshouldgo @ 11/2/2018 11:07 PM
Welpee wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:Love Trier

This draft is looking incredible for us.

Three really good players with lots of potential in the same draft when officially kickstarting rebuilding? Amazing feat!

just shows you that you don't have to tank to find good talent, just do your home work and have a solid coaching staff.

We could have won a championship and picked up Mitch and Trier

Yeah, also one of the reasons I wouldn't be too bent out of shape if Dennis Smith Jr. ended up being better than Frank. Players like DSJ you can find anytime. Is he that much better than Trier?

If by being better than Frank you mean being an "all star" then I truly don't care. From a pure basketball sense and impact on games, I doubt he'll ever be better than Frank. Anything is possiblle but not super likely. And when you get coached on Free Throw shooting by Deandre Jordan you should be seriously considering a second career.

GustavBahler @ 11/2/2018 11:09 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Nice rebound game by Lance.
he hit some big shots too!!!

LOL, my bad, I meant rebounding from some bad games. You're right tho.

StarksEwing1 @ 11/2/2018 11:10 PM
It will be interesting to see what happens with Burke/Mudiay. Im happy for Mudiay since this was probably the first good game since we acquired him. However Burke has also done well for a longer period of time. Mudiay has to hopefully keep it up next game
StarksEwing1 @ 11/2/2018 11:10 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Nice rebound game by Lance.
he hit some big shots too!!!

LOL, my bad, I meant rebounding from some bad games. You're right tho.

No problem.
CrushAlot @ 11/2/2018 11:17 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens with Burke/Mudiay. Im happy for Mudiay since this was probably the first good game since we acquired him. However Burke has also done well for a longer period of time. Mudiay has to hopefully keep it up next game
Mudiay looked like a guy that lost 10+ lbs and played like Fiz described in training camp. I think it is sustainable. He also looked like he had a lot more confidence. He is definitely the best passing point on the team, pushes the pace and he wasn't falling tonight.
nixluva @ 11/2/2018 11:21 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens with Burke/Mudiay. Im happy for Mudiay since this was probably the first good game since we acquired him. However Burke has also done well for a longer period of time. Mudiay has to hopefully keep it up next game
Mudiay looked like a guy that lost 10+ lbs and played like Fiz described in training camp. I think it is sustainable. He also looked like he had a lot more confidence. He is definitely the best passing point on the team, pushes the pace and he wasn't falling tonight.

This is what I wanted to see from Mudiay. Play POINT GUARD‼️ Look to make the TEAM run better. Less Hero Ball! He’s got all the talent to be a good PG! This is how he has to approach games from now on!

Welpee @ 11/2/2018 11:21 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
Welpee wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:Love Trier

This draft is looking incredible for us.

Three really good players with lots of potential in the same draft when officially kickstarting rebuilding? Amazing feat!

just shows you that you don't have to tank to find good talent, just do your home work and have a solid coaching staff.

We could have won a championship and picked up Mitch and Trier

Yeah, also one of the reasons I wouldn't be too bent out of shape if Dennis Smith Jr. ended up being better than Frank. Players like DSJ you can find anytime. Is he that much better than Trier?
I wanted donovan mitchell but im very happy we have frank. Not a big DSJ fan. Like you said he can score but that's about it
Who knows what Frank ultimately develops into but I'm not losing any sleep over not drafting Smith.
StarksEwing1 @ 11/2/2018 11:21 PM
Welpee wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
Welpee wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:Love Trier

This draft is looking incredible for us.

Three really good players with lots of potential in the same draft when officially kickstarting rebuilding? Amazing feat!

just shows you that you don't have to tank to find good talent, just do your home work and have a solid coaching staff.

We could have won a championship and picked up Mitch and Trier

Yeah, also one of the reasons I wouldn't be too bent out of shape if Dennis Smith Jr. ended up being better than Frank. Players like DSJ you can find anytime. Is he that much better than Trier?
I wanted donovan mitchell but im very happy we have frank. Not a big DSJ fan. Like you said he can score but that's about it
Who knows what Frank ultimately develops into but I'm not losing any sleep over not drafting Smith.
agreed.
WaltLongmire @ 11/2/2018 11:22 PM
Welpee wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:Love Trier

This draft is looking incredible for us.

Three really good players with lots of potential in the same draft when officially kickstarting rebuilding? Amazing feat!

just shows you that you don't have to tank to find good talent, just do your home work and have a solid coaching staff.

We could have won a championship and picked up Mitch and Trier

Yeah, also one of the reasons I wouldn't be too bent out of shape if Dennis Smith Jr. ended up being better than Frank. Players like DSJ you can find anytime. Is he that much better than Trier?

Actually...he isn't. They pretty much took Donic to eventually run their offense...Smith is a 6'1" mostly shooting guard with defensive issues.

Only player available when we picked that I would have taken over Frank, in hindsight, is Mitchell.

CrushAlot @ 11/2/2018 11:24 PM
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens with Burke/Mudiay. Im happy for Mudiay since this was probably the first good game since we acquired him. However Burke has also done well for a longer period of time. Mudiay has to hopefully keep it up next game
Mudiay looked like a guy that lost 10+ lbs and played like Fiz described in training camp. I think it is sustainable. He also looked like he had a lot more confidence. He is definitely the best passing point on the team, pushes the pace and he wasn't falling tonight.

This is what I wanted to see from Mudiay. Play POINT GUARD‼️ Look to make the TEAM run better. Less Hero Ball! He’s got all the talent to be a good PG! This is how he has to approach games from now on!

i remember watching film on Mudiay and thought he was the next Kidd.
StarksEwing1 @ 11/2/2018 11:25 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
Welpee wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:Love Trier

This draft is looking incredible for us.

Three really good players with lots of potential in the same draft when officially kickstarting rebuilding? Amazing feat!

just shows you that you don't have to tank to find good talent, just do your home work and have a solid coaching staff.

We could have won a championship and picked up Mitch and Trier

Yeah, also one of the reasons I wouldn't be too bent out of shape if Dennis Smith Jr. ended up being better than Frank. Players like DSJ you can find anytime. Is he that much better than Trier?

Actually...he isn't. They pretty much took Donic to eventually run their offense...Smith is a 6'1" mostly shooting guard with defensive issues.

Only player available when we picked that I would have taken over Frank, in hindsight, is Mitchell.

yeah thats true. The fact that they want him off the ball is interesting considering he was praised for being a legit pg
StarksEwing1 @ 11/2/2018 11:27 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens with Burke/Mudiay. Im happy for Mudiay since this was probably the first good game since we acquired him. However Burke has also done well for a longer period of time. Mudiay has to hopefully keep it up next game
Mudiay looked like a guy that lost 10+ lbs and played like Fiz described in training camp. I think it is sustainable. He also looked like he had a lot more confidence. He is definitely the best passing point on the team, pushes the pace and he wasn't falling tonight.
Im happy for him BUT its only one game. We need to see if he can do it over a few games for me to really see if he has started to figure it out. Hopefully he has
meloshouldgo @ 11/2/2018 11:28 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
Welpee wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:Love Trier

This draft is looking incredible for us.

Three really good players with lots of potential in the same draft when officially kickstarting rebuilding? Amazing feat!

just shows you that you don't have to tank to find good talent, just do your home work and have a solid coaching staff.

We could have won a championship and picked up Mitch and Trier

Yeah, also one of the reasons I wouldn't be too bent out of shape if Dennis Smith Jr. ended up being better than Frank. Players like DSJ you can find anytime. Is he that much better than Trier?

Actually...he isn't. They pretty much took Donic to eventually run their offense...Smith is a 6'1" mostly shooting guard with defensive issues.

Only player available when we picked that I would have taken over Frank, in hindsight, is Mitchell.

yeah thats true. The fact that they want him off the ball is interesting considering he was praised for being a legit pg

He had ZERO assists and 6 Turnovers to go with 23 points, I am glad we didn't draft this kid.

Welpee @ 11/2/2018 11:31 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
Welpee wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:Love Trier

This draft is looking incredible for us.

Three really good players with lots of potential in the same draft when officially kickstarting rebuilding? Amazing feat!

just shows you that you don't have to tank to find good talent, just do your home work and have a solid coaching staff.

We could have won a championship and picked up Mitch and Trier

Yeah, also one of the reasons I wouldn't be too bent out of shape if Dennis Smith Jr. ended up being better than Frank. Players like DSJ you can find anytime. Is he that much better than Trier?

Actually...he isn't. They pretty much took Donic to eventually run their offense...Smith is a 6'1" mostly shooting guard with defensive issues.

Only player available when we picked that I would have taken over Frank, in hindsight, is Mitchell.

yeah thats true. The fact that they want him off the ball is interesting considering he was praised for being a legit pg
Six turnovers and zero assists, doesn't sound legit to me.
StarksEwing1 @ 11/2/2018 11:32 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
Welpee wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:Love Trier

This draft is looking incredible for us.

Three really good players with lots of potential in the same draft when officially kickstarting rebuilding? Amazing feat!

just shows you that you don't have to tank to find good talent, just do your home work and have a solid coaching staff.

We could have won a championship and picked up Mitch and Trier

Yeah, also one of the reasons I wouldn't be too bent out of shape if Dennis Smith Jr. ended up being better than Frank. Players like DSJ you can find anytime. Is he that much better than Trier?

Actually...he isn't. They pretty much took Donic to eventually run their offense...Smith is a 6'1" mostly shooting guard with defensive issues.

Only player available when we picked that I would have taken over Frank, in hindsight, is Mitchell.

yeah thats true. The fact that they want him off the ball is interesting considering he was praised for being a legit pg

He had ZERO assists and 6 Turnovers to go with 23 points, I am glad we didn't draft this kid.

I give him credit for being a scorer thats his only real strength. Nothing wrong with that but its much easier to get those players unlike defensive or two way players which we have more of now
Welpee @ 11/2/2018 11:32 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens with Burke/Mudiay. Im happy for Mudiay since this was probably the first good game since we acquired him. However Burke has also done well for a longer period of time. Mudiay has to hopefully keep it up next game
Mudiay looked like a guy that lost 10+ lbs and played like Fiz described in training camp. I think it is sustainable. He also looked like he had a lot more confidence. He is definitely the best passing point on the team, pushes the pace and he wasn't falling tonight.
Im happy for him BUT its only one game. We need to see if he can do it over a few games for me to really see if he has started to figure it out. Hopefully he has
No doubt. Didn't he have an impressive first game as a Knick? Then afterwards nada.
Knixkik @ 11/2/2018 11:33 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
Welpee wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:Love Trier

This draft is looking incredible for us.

Three really good players with lots of potential in the same draft when officially kickstarting rebuilding? Amazing feat!

just shows you that you don't have to tank to find good talent, just do your home work and have a solid coaching staff.

We could have won a championship and picked up Mitch and Trier

Yeah, also one of the reasons I wouldn't be too bent out of shape if Dennis Smith Jr. ended up being better than Frank. Players like DSJ you can find anytime. Is he that much better than Trier?

If by being better than Frank you mean being an "all star" then I truly don't care. From a pure basketball sense and impact on games, I doubt he'll ever be better than Frank. Anything is possiblle but not super likely. And when you get coached on Free Throw shooting by Deandre Jordan you should be seriously considering a second career.

Has Smith always had that weird hitch in his shot ? He reminds me of Rose in NY. Can get to the basket and score at will but awkward shot and not really a PG. No defense either.

StarksEwing1 @ 11/2/2018 11:34 PM
Welpee wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens with Burke/Mudiay. Im happy for Mudiay since this was probably the first good game since we acquired him. However Burke has also done well for a longer period of time. Mudiay has to hopefully keep it up next game
Mudiay looked like a guy that lost 10+ lbs and played like Fiz described in training camp. I think it is sustainable. He also looked like he had a lot more confidence. He is definitely the best passing point on the team, pushes the pace and he wasn't falling tonight.
Im happy for him BUT its only one game. We need to see if he can do it over a few games for me to really see if he has started to figure it out. Hopefully he has
No doubt. Didn't he have an impressive first game as a Knick? Then afterwards nada.
yeah one of his early games he did well. Thats why im cautiously optimistic.
martin @ 11/2/2018 11:36 PM
Rebecca looking yummy tonight!!
meloshouldgo @ 11/2/2018 11:44 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
Welpee wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:Love Trier

This draft is looking incredible for us.

Three really good players with lots of potential in the same draft when officially kickstarting rebuilding? Amazing feat!

just shows you that you don't have to tank to find good talent, just do your home work and have a solid coaching staff.

We could have won a championship and picked up Mitch and Trier

Yeah, also one of the reasons I wouldn't be too bent out of shape if Dennis Smith Jr. ended up being better than Frank. Players like DSJ you can find anytime. Is he that much better than Trier?

Actually...he isn't. They pretty much took Donic to eventually run their offense...Smith is a 6'1" mostly shooting guard with defensive issues.

Only player available when we picked that I would have taken over Frank, in hindsight, is Mitchell.

yeah thats true. The fact that they want him off the ball is interesting considering he was praised for being a legit pg

He had ZERO assists and 6 Turnovers to go with 23 points, I am glad we didn't draft this kid.

I give him credit for being a scorer thats his only real strength. Nothing wrong with that but its much easier to get those players unlike defensive or two way players which we have more of now

I would take Trier over him. It really underscores how Dallas completely wasted their pick. Every draft will have it's no defense, tunnel vision, take it to the hoop iso-chucker. A lottery pick, really? Heck Trier has better chance of being a contributor than him, because he is giving effort on defense.

StarksEwing1 @ 11/2/2018 11:46 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
Welpee wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:Love Trier

This draft is looking incredible for us.

Three really good players with lots of potential in the same draft when officially kickstarting rebuilding? Amazing feat!

just shows you that you don't have to tank to find good talent, just do your home work and have a solid coaching staff.

We could have won a championship and picked up Mitch and Trier

Yeah, also one of the reasons I wouldn't be too bent out of shape if Dennis Smith Jr. ended up being better than Frank. Players like DSJ you can find anytime. Is he that much better than Trier?

Actually...he isn't. They pretty much took Donic to eventually run their offense...Smith is a 6'1" mostly shooting guard with defensive issues.

Only player available when we picked that I would have taken over Frank, in hindsight, is Mitchell.

yeah thats true. The fact that they want him off the ball is interesting considering he was praised for being a legit pg

He had ZERO assists and 6 Turnovers to go with 23 points, I am glad we didn't draft this kid.

I give him credit for being a scorer thats his only real strength. Nothing wrong with that but its much easier to get those players unlike defensive or two way players which we have more of now

I would take Trier over him. It really underscores how Dallas completely wasted their pick. Every draft will have it's no defense, tunnel vision, take it to the hoop iso-chucker. A lottery pick, really? Heck Trier has better chance of being a contributor than him, because he is giving effort on defense.

I honestly think they wanted Frank. I mean I remember they were heavily involved with him despite what they say after the fact
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