What can we get for him? Frank has been a huge disappointment this year. He has not developed at all offensively. So many plays he brings the ball up the court, passes it off and hides in the corner. In fact, he does not even move from his spot in the corner for the entire offensive play. I don't know what it will take for him to get aggressive. His shot does not seem to be broken, but he just is very low energy.
I would only consider Jonathon Isaac and they aren't going to offer him, so no!
arkrud wrote:ankurk wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2808...Done with ntilikina and bring on FULTZ!
Why you would trade future unknown for known bust?
So Fultz is a bust but not Frank? Both were taken in the same draft? At least be consistent on potiental.
Trade him. I’m over having this debate on if he will be good or not. Let some other team develop him.
Jmpasq wrote:arkrud wrote:ankurk wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2808...Done with ntilikina and bring on FULTZ!
Why you would trade future unknown for known bust?
So Fultz is a bust but not Frank? Both were taken in the same draft? At least be consistent on potiental.
Fultz isn't good on either end of the floor. Frank is good on one end. Frank's floor is much higher at this point.
PassTheBall wrote:Trade him. I’m over having this debate on if he will be good or not. Let some other team develop him.
Hey PM Dawn, Fultz giving you the Norwegian Wood? Why?
the player I always like to think of as a potential model for Frank is Bruce Bowen.
Looking at Bruce's career stats, would he (Bowen) have a role in today's NBA?
I'm worried the answer with every team this year over 103pts and the five top teams over 115, no.
Our challenge is we have a bunch of guys that really aren't complete players- Dotson, Hardaway, Burke, Mudiay, Trier & Frank. We have three supposed PGs - in Burke, Mudiay and Frank - that aren't complete anything - they're inconsistent, don't have a complete game, have flaws.
If I could trade Frank for a top ten pick this year, yes, I would do that. Resets my developmental timeline a bit, gives me some cap room.
Maybe we need to think of Frank as a different role. He isn't likely to become a PG. So, he is a wing, and we need to maybe think of him in that light - as an off ball shooter/defensive specialist.
We obviously need a roster spot for Trier. Dump Baker, Kornet or Hicks or all three. I don't see any NBA teams scooping any of them up after they clear waivers.
franco12 wrote:the player I always like to think of as a potential model for Frank is Bruce Bowen.Looking at Bruce's career stats, would he (Bowen) have a role in today's NBA?
I'm worried the answer with every team this year over 103pts and the five top teams over 115, no.
Our challenge is we have a bunch of guys that really aren't complete players- Dotson, Hardaway, Burke, Mudiay, Trier & Frank. We have three supposed PGs - in Burke, Mudiay and Frank - that aren't complete anything - they're inconsistent, don't have a complete game, have flaws.
If I could trade Frank for a top ten pick this year, yes, I would do that. Resets my developmental timeline a bit, gives me some cap room.
Maybe we need to think of Frank as a different role. He isn't likely to become a PG. So, he is a wing, and we need to maybe think of him in that light - as an off ball shooter/defensive specialist.
We obviously need a roster spot for Trier. Dump Baker, Kornet or Hicks or all three. I don't see any NBA teams scooping any of them up after they clear waivers.
Nobody cares about the win/loses this season so I am not sure why the performance of this young group has any immediate importance.
They have plenty of time to develop and coaching stuff has plenty of time to evaluate if we want to keep them.
The building is still at ground zero sow why to discuss how if looks in the skyline?
Cartman718 wrote:PassTheBall wrote:Trade him. I’m over having this debate on if he will be good or not. Let some other team develop him.
Hey PM Dawn, Fultz giving you the Norwegian Wood? Why?
I don’t want to trade him for Fultz.
Frank is not a bust. He will be fine!
Smart kid, works hard, he is over thinknig out there on offense.
meloshouldgo wrote:PassTheBall wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:PassTheBall wrote:Trade him. I’m over having this debate on if he will be good or not. Let some other team develop him.
Can't fix stupid
Frank isn’t stupid.
Wasn't refering to Frank
Oh. I’m not stupid either. Time will tell with Frank. He does work hard so there is a chance for a breakthrough but it’s not looking good right now.
PassTheBall wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:PassTheBall wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:PassTheBall wrote:Trade him. I’m over having this debate on if he will be good or not. Let some other team develop him.
Can't fix stupid
Frank isn’t stupid.
Wasn't refering to Frank
Oh. I’m not stupid either. Time will tell with Frank. He does work hard so there is a chance for a breakthrough but it’s not looking good right now.
Many NBA teams are looking to trade for Frank. Wonder why?
Because they see the potential and are not looking at growing pains.
It is understandable that Knicks fans who never witness and kind of rebuilds and player development cannot understand how it works.
arkrud wrote:PassTheBall wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:PassTheBall wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:PassTheBall wrote:Trade him. I’m over having this debate on if he will be good or not. Let some other team develop him.
Can't fix stupid
Frank isn’t stupid.
Wasn't refering to Frank
Oh. I’m not stupid either. Time will tell with Frank. He does work hard so there is a chance for a breakthrough but it’s not looking good right now.
Many NBA teams are looking to trade for Frank. Wonder why?
Because they see the potential and are not looking at growing pains.
It is understandable that Knicks fans who never witness and kind of rebuilds and player development cannot understand how it works.
Not sure the validity of theses "Rumors". Some might have been preseason.
Im ok with a process that has him on the bench and perhaps he works out what he needs to do. A process that also includes bringing in Mudiay and Trier does not hurt either.
The Mudiay story is kind of very cool. WE had this guy left for dead just a few weeks ago. A future we can't see is one we can't really "opinionize".
arkrud wrote:PassTheBall wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:PassTheBall wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:PassTheBall wrote:Trade him. I’m over having this debate on if he will be good or not. Let some other team develop him.
Can't fix stupid
Frank isn’t stupid.
Wasn't refering to Frank
Oh. I’m not stupid either. Time will tell with Frank. He does work hard so there is a chance for a breakthrough but it’s not looking good right now.
Many NBA teams are looking to trade for Frank. Wonder why?
Because they see the potential and are not looking at growing pains.
It is understandable that Knicks fans who never witness and kind of rebuilds and player development cannot understand how it works.
100% agree... frank is only 20 years old the kid is a baby with crazy potential! He’s still a no trade for me, kid might break out as the NBA’s best defensive player at 22 and with body development man handle his opponent on offense.
If anyone should be taking notes from the Greek freak it’s frank.. the guy lives on midrange and drives and is the top player in the nba... he’s shooting 11% from 3 this year he’s stopped taking them for the most part.
fitzfarm wrote:arkrud wrote:PassTheBall wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:PassTheBall wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:PassTheBall wrote:Trade him. I’m over having this debate on if he will be good or not. Let some other team develop him.
Can't fix stupid
Frank isn’t stupid.
Wasn't refering to Frank
Oh. I’m not stupid either. Time will tell with Frank. He does work hard so there is a chance for a breakthrough but it’s not looking good right now.
Many NBA teams are looking to trade for Frank. Wonder why?
Because they see the potential and are not looking at growing pains.
It is understandable that Knicks fans who never witness and kind of rebuilds and player development cannot understand how it works.
100% agree... frank is only 20 years old the kid is a baby with crazy potential! He’s still a no trade for me, kid might break out as the NBA’s best defensive player at 22 and with body development man handle his opponent on offense.
If anyone should be taking notes from the Greek freak it’s frank.. the guy lives on midrange and drives and is the top player in the nba... he’s shooting 11% from 3 this year he’s stopped taking them for the most part.
Agreed. It took mudiay about 4 years to start to show something. Frank needs that oppurtunity to. He has already show his defensive ability and passing. The offense will come
