......we are not even halfway thru this process and some are on fire about the lineup mash ups!
Don't extrapolate the lineups and think its the end all. We are far from being complete and next year many new faces as well.
here are your meds...please take them now.
Cartman718 wrote:here are your meds...please take them now.
"Only a fool takes half his meds"......
I think Fiz is using Hezonja as a placeholder until he confidently can put Knox back in the lineup. He can't put Dotson in because Dotson won't give up that spot. Hezonja is playing his way out of it and Knox will eventually be the guy. Also, clearly Hezonja was promised preferential treatment, so he's getting it now until Knox is ready.
Knixkik wrote:I think Fiz is using Hezonja as a placeholder until he confidently can put Knox back in the lineup. He can't put Dotson in because Dotson won't give up that spot. Hezonja is playing his way out of it and Knox will eventually be the guy. Also, clearly Hezonja was promised preferential treatment, so he's getting it now until Knox is ready.
Ok. But this is the complete opposite of keeping what you kill lol
BigDaddyG wrote:Knixkik wrote:I think Fiz is using Hezonja as a placeholder until he confidently can put Knox back in the lineup. He can't put Dotson in because Dotson won't give up that spot. Hezonja is playing his way out of it and Knox will eventually be the guy. Also, clearly Hezonja was promised preferential treatment, so he's getting it now until Knox is ready.
Ok. But this is the complete opposite of keeping what you kill lol
I don't want knox, trier or dotson in the starting line up, because if you fill out the bench with everyone who is struggling, what do you think is going to happen?
Either they wont be able to sustain leads or comeback from a deficit. Its got to be a balance
I don't understand some people here.
Fiz is the best coach we've had since Riley.
Full stop.
He is trying to win games, and I think also trying to figure out which players should be part of the long term future here.
I don't think there is one player right now on the team healthy who is a clear cut starter in the NBA.
You have a ton of middling, average, mixed talents. Some with upside, some with downsides.
Besides KP, who is the clear cut starters????
franco12 wrote:I don't understand some people here.Fiz is the best coach we've had since Riley.
Full stop.
He is trying to win games, and I think also trying to figure out which players should be part of the long term future here.
I don't think there is one player right now on the team healthy who is a clear cut starter in the NBA.
You have a ton of middling, average, mixed talents. Some with upside, some with downsides.
Besides KP, who is the clear cut starters????
Fizz is just another stop gap coach. He sucks there is no system no plan.
knicks1248 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Knixkik wrote:I think Fiz is using Hezonja as a placeholder until he confidently can put Knox back in the lineup. He can't put Dotson in because Dotson won't give up that spot. Hezonja is playing his way out of it and Knox will eventually be the guy. Also, clearly Hezonja was promised preferential treatment, so he's getting it now until Knox is ready.
Ok. But this is the complete opposite of keeping what you kill lol
I don't want knox, trier or dotson in the starting line up, because if you fill out the bench with everyone who is struggling, what do you think is going to happen?
Either they wont be able to sustain leads or comeback from a deficit. Its got to be a balance
I don't agree with this, but I can kinda see your point. How do you explain the fact that Dot wasn't playing at all?
Vmart wrote:franco12 wrote:I don't understand some people here.Fiz is the best coach we've had since Riley.
Full stop.
He is trying to win games, and I think also trying to figure out which players should be part of the long term future here.
I don't think there is one player right now on the team healthy who is a clear cut starter in the NBA.
You have a ton of middling, average, mixed talents. Some with upside, some with downsides.
Besides KP, who is the clear cut starters????
Fizz is just another stop gap coach. He sucks there is no system no plan.
So True .. Fiz is just another front-office puppet-coach without a system or defensive plan.
All the different starter lineup changes in 24 games has not got players on the same-page.
Kemet wrote:Vmart wrote:franco12 wrote:I don't understand some people here.Fiz is the best coach we've had since Riley.
Full stop.
He is trying to win games, and I think also trying to figure out which players should be part of the long term future here.
I don't think there is one player right now on the team healthy who is a clear cut starter in the NBA.
You have a ton of middling, average, mixed talents. Some with upside, some with downsides.
Besides KP, who is the clear cut starters????
Fizz is just another stop gap coach. He sucks there is no system no plan.
So True .. Fiz is just another front-office puppet-coach without a system or defensive plan.
All the different starter lineup changes in 24 games has not got players on the same-page.
Glad someone seems to know. Yes this guy is Perry’s puppet and Perry scares me as a no talent GM. Who is know to give up on the wrong up and coming players. Oladipo and Harris are prime examples. This what he is doing to Ntlikina and this going to be disastrous mistake. As for Fizz he has no system so any player of Ntlikina’s ilk is going to struggle. He isn’t a street baller. Usually street ballers don’t play well in systems. And system players don’t play well in street ball. Ntlikina needs structure and Fiz has no structure. Street ball fans will be happy with Fizz but winning is about system.
BigDaddyG wrote:knicks1248 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Knixkik wrote:I think Fiz is using Hezonja as a placeholder until he confidently can put Knox back in the lineup. He can't put Dotson in because Dotson won't give up that spot. Hezonja is playing his way out of it and Knox will eventually be the guy. Also, clearly Hezonja was promised preferential treatment, so he's getting it now until Knox is ready.
Ok. But this is the complete opposite of keeping what you kill lol
I don't want knox, trier or dotson in the starting line up, because if you fill out the bench with everyone who is struggling, what do you think is going to happen?
Either they wont be able to sustain leads or comeback from a deficit. Its got to be a balance
I don't agree with this, but I can kinda see your point. How do you explain the fact that Dot wasn't playing at all?
He was part of the starting line up that would get off to slow starts, then he started missing shots and playing a lil shaky. He rewarded Mario with his minutes because he saw an improvement in his defense.
fiz was very honest about the knicks having an extended preseason, 20 to 25 games in.
should he have just stayed with a line up that was falling behind by double digits for 5 straight games
knicks1248 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:knicks1248 wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Knixkik wrote:I think Fiz is using Hezonja as a placeholder until he confidently can put Knox back in the lineup. He can't put Dotson in because Dotson won't give up that spot. Hezonja is playing his way out of it and Knox will eventually be the guy. Also, clearly Hezonja was promised preferential treatment, so he's getting it now until Knox is ready.
Ok. But this is the complete opposite of keeping what you kill lol
I don't want knox, trier or dotson in the starting line up, because if you fill out the bench with everyone who is struggling, what do you think is going to happen?
Either they wont be able to sustain leads or comeback from a deficit. Its got to be a balance
I don't agree with this, but I can kinda see your point. How do you explain the fact that Dot wasn't playing at all?
He was part of the starting line up that would get off to slow starts, then he started missing shots and playing a lil shaky. He rewarded Mario with his minutes because he saw an improvement in his defense.
fiz was very honest about the knicks having an extended preseason, 20 to 25 games in.
should he have just stayed with a line up that was falling behind by double digits for 5 straight games
That doesn't explain the DNPs. Have you seen anything from Mario that gives you any indication that he'd have more of an offensive or defensive impact than DOT. His overallplay on the court makes it hard to believe he deserves minutes at all, forget about starting. Again, I could understand wanting to see how Mario fits in as a starter. But not playing Dot at all, who is clearly our best available option on the wing, doesn't make sense.
Vmart wrote:Kemet wrote:Vmart wrote:franco12 wrote:I don't understand some people here.Fiz is the best coach we've had since Riley.
Full stop.
He is trying to win games, and I think also trying to figure out which players should be part of the long term future here.
I don't think there is one player right now on the team healthy who is a clear cut starter in the NBA.
You have a ton of middling, average, mixed talents. Some with upside, some with downsides.
Besides KP, who is the clear cut starters????
Fizz is just another stop gap coach. He sucks there is no system no plan.
So True .. Fiz is just another front-office puppet-coach without a system or defensive plan.
All the different starter lineup changes in 24 games has not got players on the same-page.
Glad someone seems to know. Yes this guy is Perry’s puppet and Perry scares me as a no talent GM. Who is know to give up on the wrong up and coming players. Oladipo and Harris are prime examples. This what he is doing to Ntlikina and this going to be disastrous mistake. As for Fizz he has no system so any player of Ntlikina’s ilk is going to struggle. He isn’t a street baller. Usually street ballers don’t play well in systems. And system players don’t play well in street ball. Ntlikina needs structure and Fiz has no structure. Street ball fans will be happy with Fizz but winning is about system.
I'm not ready to go this far, yet. But I can definitely see some of the frustration Gasol and Memphis fans had with Fiz's media statements.
Is fiz doing what it takes for NOW? Or this the direction going forward.
Because of this I can't say Im unhappy. If we are still sorting things out so be it.
Maybe we just shelving Frank because of the lack of system for now.
Vmart wrote:Kemet wrote:Vmart wrote:franco12 wrote:I don't understand some people here.Fiz is the best coach we've had since Riley.
Full stop.
He is trying to win games, and I think also trying to figure out which players should be part of the long term future here.
I don't think there is one player right now on the team healthy who is a clear cut starter in the NBA.
You have a ton of middling, average, mixed talents. Some with upside, some with downsides.
Besides KP, who is the clear cut starters????
Fizz is just another stop gap coach. He sucks there is no system no plan.
So True .. Fiz is just another front-office puppet-coach without a system or defensive plan.
All the different starter lineup changes in 24 games has not got players on the same-page.
Glad someone seems to know. Yes this guy is Perry’s puppet and Perry scares me as a no talent GM. Who is know to give up on the wrong up and coming players. Oladipo and Harris are prime examples. This what he is doing to Ntlikina and this going to be disastrous mistake. As for Fizz he has no system so any player of Ntlikina’s ilk is going to struggle. He isn’t a street baller. Usually street ballers don’t play well in systems. And system players don’t play well in street ball. Ntlikina needs structure and Fiz has no structure. Street ball fans will be happy with Fizz but winning is about system.
Perry was the assistant GM in Orlando.
Nalod wrote:Is fiz doing what it takes for NOW? Or this the direction going forward.
Because of this I can't say Im unhappy. If we are still sorting things out so be it.
Maybe we just shelving Frank because of the lack of system for now.
That's what has bothered me. Their could be a method to the crazy lineups, or he could be just throwing crap on the wall. If he decided to play the vets while giving the younger players time to find their depth, then fine. If he decided to focus more on the younger players, then fine. I came in expecting a keep what you kill mentality toward playing time. Instead, coach is handling playing time like it's a low scale Chinese buffet.
Nalod wrote:Vmart wrote:Kemet wrote:Vmart wrote:franco12 wrote:I don't understand some people here.Fiz is the best coach we've had since Riley.
Full stop.
He is trying to win games, and I think also trying to figure out which players should be part of the long term future here.
I don't think there is one player right now on the team healthy who is a clear cut starter in the NBA.
You have a ton of middling, average, mixed talents. Some with upside, some with downsides.
Besides KP, who is the clear cut starters????
Fizz is just another stop gap coach. He sucks there is no system no plan.
So True .. Fiz is just another front-office puppet-coach without a system or defensive plan.
All the different starter lineup changes in 24 games has not got players on the same-page.
Glad someone seems to know. Yes this guy is Perry’s puppet and Perry scares me as a no talent GM. Who is know to give up on the wrong up and coming players. Oladipo and Harris are prime examples. This what he is doing to Ntlikina and this going to be disastrous mistake. As for Fizz he has no system so any player of Ntlikina’s ilk is going to struggle. He isn’t a street baller. Usually street ballers don’t play well in systems. And system players don’t play well in street ball. Ntlikina needs structure and Fiz has no structure. Street ball fans will be happy with Fizz but winning is about system.
Perry was the assistant GM in Orlando.
Ssssh. Don't let the facts get in the way of Vmarts agenda.
Nalod wrote:Is fiz doing what it takes for NOW? Or this the direction going forward.
Because of this I can't say Im unhappy. If we are still sorting things out so be it.
Maybe we just shelving Frank because of the lack of system for now.
You either have a system to implement or you don’t. He doesn’t have a system at least nothing that will result in winning.
BigRedDog wrote:Nalod wrote:Vmart wrote:Kemet wrote:Vmart wrote:franco12 wrote:I don't understand some people here.Fiz is the best coach we've had since Riley.
Full stop.
He is trying to win games, and I think also trying to figure out which players should be part of the long term future here.
I don't think there is one player right now on the team healthy who is a clear cut starter in the NBA.
You have a ton of middling, average, mixed talents. Some with upside, some with downsides.
Besides KP, who is the clear cut starters????
Fizz is just another stop gap coach. He sucks there is no system no plan.
So True .. Fiz is just another front-office puppet-coach without a system or defensive plan.
All the different starter lineup changes in 24 games has not got players on the same-page.
Glad someone seems to know. Yes this guy is Perry’s puppet and Perry scares me as a no talent GM. Who is know to give up on the wrong up and coming players. Oladipo and Harris are prime examples. This what he is doing to Ntlikina and this going to be disastrous mistake. As for Fizz he has no system so any player of Ntlikina’s ilk is going to struggle. He isn’t a street baller. Usually street ballers don’t play well in systems. And system players don’t play well in street ball. Ntlikina needs structure and Fiz has no structure. Street ball fans will be happy with Fizz but winning is about system.
Perry was the assistant GM in Orlando.
Ssssh. Don't let the facts get in the way of Vmarts agenda.
With input. But let’s not consider it a team decision. If the GM is asking for input and getting input what does that make the decision? But let’s just blame everyone else but the guy in the ear.
