blkexec wrote:NYStateOfMind wrote:They always do. I stopped going and throwing away good court-side seat money, to watch an embarrassing loss every year.
I'll buy them from you.....
Let me know if you are in Denver sometime, lol.
Sangfroid wrote:Hardaway should never get the ball next to two opponents
He's a guaranteed clutch turnover to the other team. Given that we want to lose, THJ and Kanter are gifts that just keep on giving.
Frank was great tonight, not enough minutes. I don't get this coaching staffs obsession with Mudiay. Are we really going to give him a long-term deal. Im going to lose my shit if we give him 4 years 60 million
Jmpasq wrote:Frank was great tonight, not enough minutes. I don't get this coaching staffs obsession with Mudiay. Are we really going to give him a long-term deal. Im going to lose my shit if we give him 4 years 60 million
4 years 60 million?? Where did that come from?
Cartman718 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Frank was great tonight, not enough minutes. I don't get this coaching staffs obsession with Mudiay. Are we really going to give him a long-term deal. Im going to lose my shit if we give him 4 years 60 million
4 years 60 million?? Where did that come from?
Any team that signs Noah, Lee, Thomas and Hardaway Jr at their AAV/contract length when they didn't have to do it will raise some eyebrows in general.
Something no one wants to talk about is that many NBA owners make the final decisions on personnel. And they shouldn't. Steve Kerr pointed this out when he was ousted from the Suns as GM, that you could spend weeks/months putting together a strong deal and the owner decides randomly he doesn't want to do it anymore. Or he could really want Player X and demand the front office sign him to X dollars/X years. Many owners have relationships with the more powerful agents.
While Perry might clearly understand the limitations of Mudiay, will Dolan?
Case in point, after Moneyball came out, many owners wanted Moneyball players. The KC Royals owner wanted Mark Teahen badly, he was in the book. Against advice of his front office, the Royals traded Carlos Beltran to the Astros ( could they have resigned him? Hard to say...) with Teahen being the big piece coming back. But he was IN THE BOOK! And everyone was talking about the book. The A's were happy because half the MLB GMs didn't want to trade with Beane, since the book made it look like they were all his bitches on call.
Giving Mudiay 4/60 is insane. But the only real question is if Dolan is that insane/stupid/crazy/fucked up. Look at his history with this team, nothing should surprise fans now.
Ever see the Scorsese movie, Casino? Where Sharon Stone is a high class whore and she tries to steal from a high roller and when he catches her, she throws all his chips in the air? And Robert DeNiro looks at her and knows she will be trouble but he can't help his raging Oneitis for her. Then the movie ends and she dies in a hallway after some bikers pump her out and overdose her on purpose to steal what was left of her money. And in the middle of the movie she ties her daughter in a closet so she can go party. And this was after trying to convince Pesci to kill DeNiro. After trying to break into a bank to steal all the money in the safe deposit box.
The point is, DeNiro's character shouldn't be surprised. Someone fucked to start will always do fucked up things. Dolan has always done dumb shit with this team. You can't be surprised if a bunch of bikers highball freight this guy and he's crawling down a hallway on his hand and knees demanding the Knicks sign Mudiay to a dumb ass deal.
Never underestimate the power of a total fuckup to find a way to fuck everything up. For most people here, just look at your in-laws, then it all starts to make sense.
TripleThreat wrote:Cartman718 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Frank was great tonight, not enough minutes. I don't get this coaching staffs obsession with Mudiay. Are we really going to give him a long-term deal. Im going to lose my shit if we give him 4 years 60 million
4 years 60 million?? Where did that come from?
Any team that signs Noah, Lee, Thomas and Hardaway Jr at their AAV/contract length when they didn't have to do it will raise some eyebrows in general.
Something no one wants to talk about is that many NBA owners make the final decisions on personnel. And they shouldn't. Steve Kerr pointed this out when he was ousted from the Suns as GM, that you could spend weeks/months putting together a strong deal and the owner decides randomly he doesn't want to do it anymore. Or he could really want Player X and demand the front office sign him to X dollars/X years. Many owners have relationships with the more powerful agents.
While Perry might clearly understand the limitations of Mudiay, will Dolan?
Case in point, after Moneyball came out, many owners wanted Moneyball players. The KC Royals owner wanted Mark Teahen badly, he was in the book. Against advice of his front office, the Royals traded Carlos Beltran to the Astros ( could they have resigned him? Hard to say...) with Teahen being the big piece coming back. But he was IN THE BOOK! And everyone was talking about the book. The A's were happy because half the MLB GMs didn't want to trade with Beane, since the book made it look like they were all his bitches on call.
Giving Mudiay 4/60 is insane. But the only real question is if Dolan is that insane/stupid/crazy/fucked up. Look at his history with this team, nothing should surprise fans now.
Ever see the Scorsese movie, Casino? Where Sharon Stone is a high class whore and she tries to steal from a high roller and when he catches her, she throws all his chips in the air? And Robert DeNiro looks at her and knows she will be trouble but he can't help his raging Oneitis for her. Then the movie ends and she dies in a hallway after some bikers pump her out and overdose her on purpose to steal what was left of her money. And in the middle of the movie she ties her daughter in a closet so she can go party. And this was after trying to convince Pesci to kill DeNiro. After trying to break into a bank to steal all the money in the safe deposit box.
The point is, DeNiro's character shouldn't be surprised. Someone fucked to start will always do fucked up things. Dolan has always done dumb shit with this team. You can't be surprised if a bunch of bikers highball freight this guy and he's crawling down a hallway on his hand and knees demanding the Knicks sign Mudiay to a dumb ass deal.
Never underestimate the power of a total fuckup to find a way to fuck everything up. For most people here, just look at your in-laws, then it all starts to make sense.
So which of those players is Sharon Stone?
TripleThreat wrote:Cartman718 wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Frank was great tonight, not enough minutes. I don't get this coaching staffs obsession with Mudiay. Are we really going to give him a long-term deal. Im going to lose my shit if we give him 4 years 60 million
4 years 60 million?? Where did that come from?
Any team that signs Noah, Lee, Thomas and Hardaway Jr at their AAV/contract length when they didn't have to do it will raise some eyebrows in general.
What Im afraid is going to happen is we strike out on the top FA's and to appease Porzingis they start handing out really stupid deals to get the 8th seed. I don't care about the money as much as the years. I don't want to get locked into bad long-term deals. Keep the cap space flexible so if an oppurtunity arises you take advantage. How about if we strike out in FA be a facilitator for a team that wants to overpay, not the team that overpays.
KnickDanger wrote:TripleThreat wrote:
Ever see the Scorsese movie, Casino? Where Sharon Stone is a high class whore and she tries to steal from a high roller and when he catches her, she throws all his chips in the air? And Robert DeNiro looks at her and knows she will be trouble but he can't help his raging Oneitis for her. Then the movie ends and she dies in a hallway after some bikers pump her out and overdose her on purpose to steal what was left of her money. And in the middle of the movie she ties her daughter in a closet so she can go party. And this was after trying to convince Pesci to kill DeNiro. After trying to break into a bank to steal all the money in the safe deposit box. The point is, DeNiro's character shouldn't be surprised. Someone fucked to start will always do fucked up things. Dolan has always done dumb shit with this team. You can't be surprised if a bunch of bikers highball freight this guy and he's crawling down a hallway on his hand and knees demanding the Knicks sign Mudiay to a dumb ass deal.
Never underestimate the power of a total fuckup to find a way to fuck everything up. For most people here, just look at your in-laws, then it all starts to make sense.
So which of those players is Sharon Stone?
Noah
Stone's character, like Noah, was a wall hitter. Right at the edge of their clear decline phase.
Something to consider is Dolan made the Knicks a defacto Creative Artist Agency zone because they used their influence to help JD And The SureShot. Dolan also apparently used his leverage to keep Hell On Wheels on the air, despite multiple cancellation attempts, because it featured some of his music ( And I mean feature in the biggest stretch possible)
Think about how many years Dolan fucked this team over so he could feel like a rock star.
I don't think Mudiay will get a 4/60, but even something like a 2/12 is pretty much insane.
OK put it this way, is Dolan any smarter than some of the posters here. Now, I get it, everyone has a right to an opinion. But consider this, think about some of the oddball shit people throw up here ( and I get it, it's for discussion) Now imagine if they had the total power to do that stuff, how badly the Knicks would be fucked. Think about when Kanter and Burke had a few big games and some people were clamoring for the Knicks to give them extensions. Long extensions.
Bill Belichick and Billy Beane are both gigantic assholes. But there is nothing wrong with a dictatorship if the right asshole is in charge.
Is Dolan the right asshole? Not by a long shot.
Team building in the NBA is simple. Stupid simple. A from the ground up rebuild is the simplest possible. The rate of return however is low as fuck. But the BASE MARKET CONCEPTS are simple and the decisions literally make themselves. Sam Hinkie and Bob Myers and Daryl Morey aren't some kind of massive genius level people. They simply understand the marketplace. It's like going to a flea market and some guys just do a better job of selling stuff. They know how to talk to people, how to display their stuff, what to carry and where to put their tables. Dolan is the guy at the flea market selling Chia Pets and Shake Weights and Taebo CDs.
