bigjeep8 wrote:Vmart wrote:Fizz ran KP out of town. KP saw no development no system nothing nada. He had seen enough and wanted out.
No doubt years of losing has made KP unhappy and now he got his wish. Never was a big fan of his.
I have to agree with you for some reason he felt like he was privileged. Accomplished nothing besides he had already been influenced by Melo.
last night's game must have been a tipping point
so many times the Mavs had guys WIDE open rolling to the hoop or getting layups with no one even in the same vicinity
It wasn't the losing; it was the way we were losing. EMbarassing, clueless and selfish basketball.
KP must have said to himself we went from bad to worse, and he doesn't want to wait for the FO/coach/etc to get a clue. In a way I don't blame him. It's not like he left because he was crying about being underpaid
bigjeep8 wrote:Vmart wrote:Fizz ran KP out of town. KP saw no development no system nothing nada. He had seen enough and wanted out.
No doubt years of losing has made KP unhappy and now he got his wish. Never was a big fan of his.
This doesn't makes sense for this year.
One thing is the Phil Jackson issue and the issues when Melo was around.
This year we had a new management and a new coach. This team was still talented enough to be decent if if had a big star playing with them and, what? oh, Porzingis was supposed to be that star? So Porzingis is mad that a team without his biggest star, which happens to be him, is playing poorly?
And if you are going to be out for the year with your injury and your team has the chance to bring another star young player through the draft, isnt that actually the best you can expect for your team?
This seems to be more of a power play from Janis and Porzingis. The excuse is the Knicks losing, which is funny because Porzingis being out is a huge part of that.
JesseDark wrote:martin wrote:JesseDark wrote:One thing I got out of Kay's interview with Allen Hahn is that Kevin Know does not have his man strength yet.
Why did you need the interview, Knox looks like a string bean out there!
Not watching as many games this year
I think we all are. It’s not a fun team to watch. They don’t play basketball they are playing one on one in a team sport.
Vmart wrote:bigjeep8 wrote:Vmart wrote:Fizz ran KP out of town. KP saw no development no system nothing nada. He had seen enough and wanted out.
No doubt years of losing has made KP unhappy and now he got his wish. Never was a big fan of his.
I have to agree with you for some reason he felt like he was privileged. Accomplished nothing besides he had already been influenced by Melo.
Never forget the Melo influence. I always thought KP was just another Bargs!
Vmart wrote:bigjeep8 wrote:Vmart wrote:Fizz ran KP out of town. KP saw no development no system nothing nada. He had seen enough and wanted out.
No doubt years of losing has made KP unhappy and now he got his wish. Never was a big fan of his.
I have to agree with you for some reason he felt like he was privileged. Accomplished nothing besides he had already been influenced by Melo.
In fairness to Melo(and i admit im not a huge melo fan) he never pulled the shit KP and Janis have done. Hell he even went to the exit meeting with Phil despite probably hating him lol
Knicksfan wrote:bigjeep8 wrote:Vmart wrote:Fizz ran KP out of town. KP saw no development no system nothing nada. He had seen enough and wanted out.
No doubt years of losing has made KP unhappy and now he got his wish. Never was a big fan of his.
This doesn't makes sense for this year.
One thing is the Phil Jackson issue and the issues when Melo was around.
This year we had a new management and a new coach. This team was still talented enough to be decent if if had a big star playing with them and, what? oh, Porzingis was supposed to be that star? So Porzingis is mad that a team without his biggest star, which happens to be him, is playing poorly?
And if you are going to be out for the year with your injury and your team has the chance to bring another star young player through the draft, isnt that actually the best you can expect for your team?
This seems to be more of a power play from Janis and Porzingis. The excuse is the Knicks losing, which is funny because Porzingis being out is a huge part of that.
KP never made sense he acts like some entitled diva.
martin wrote:Oh:
Well thats a little better
martin wrote:Oh:
Probably 2 late 1st rounders since the Mavs will be pretty good next year and going forward. Trash.
martin wrote:Oh:
well, hopefully KP comes back at 50%
homeskillitprigioni wrote:martin wrote:Oh:
Probably 2 late 1st rounders since the Mavs will be pretty good next year and going forward. Trash.
There is no guarantee KP resigns
i hope one of them Rounders from this year
martin wrote:Oh:
Will be the first time Knicks had this many prospects and future draft picks and cap space all at once.
On the fence about this deal. Kind of looks like we backed into a good situation. As smackeddog pointed out upthread, this deal looks like it was enginereed to paper over previous mistakes by mgmt, at the cost of a potential superstar.
A potential superstar who has trouble staying on the court, hasnt made an all-star team. Still had work to do on rounding out his game. Whose shelf life as a star might be limited because of his height, frame. I dont blame KP for wanting to leave, he probably has only so many years at peak performance. Didnt like how he let his brother run his mouth as much as he did.
We get DSJ. If he can play well enough to make an all-star team, and run the show, its worth it.
Dont know how long the other players will stick, or of they are even in the team's plans. Like that we got Matthews though.
If we get a high pick, I trust Perry to make a good one. If we have two high picks, when was the last time we had that? Never. I like that. One more shot at Zion.
This is the kind of deal, as others have mentioned that has to be followed up with big time FA signings if the Knicks want to make a run in the next couple of years. We have youth, picks, cap room. The table is set, up to Perry amd Mills to cook up something good.
StarksEwing1 wrote:Vmart wrote:bigjeep8 wrote:Vmart wrote:Fizz ran KP out of town. KP saw no development no system nothing nada. He had seen enough and wanted out.
No doubt years of losing has made KP unhappy and now he got his wish. Never was a big fan of his.
I have to agree with you for some reason he felt like he was privileged. Accomplished nothing besides he had already been influenced by Melo.
In fairness to Melo(and i admit im not a huge melo fan) he never pulled the shit KP and Janis have done. Hell he even went to the exit meeting with Phil despite probably hating him lol
He pulled that with Denver.
