Knicks · Is FIZ the answer (page 9)

GoNyGoNyGo @ 4/1/2019 10:17 PM
My criticism would be that the team has not devloped am identity. Not on O and not on D.

My hope would be based on the improvedment of Mitch, Dotson and Mudiay.

Knox has been a mixed bag but here at the end, a bit of a disappointment.

Sangfroid @ 4/1/2019 10:23 PM
Kemet wrote:From day one of training-camp to the regular season games Fizdale's coaching never implemented chemistry nor team-ball amongst the Knick players. The Fizdale's Knicks started the pre-season games having a isolation-offense system and a poor zone defense system. The switching of different player line-ups and rotations started in the preseason games. Fire Fizdale at end of season !!!

He'll get next season as a barometer. Not impressed by his, anything....

Vmart @ 4/2/2019 11:30 AM
Doc Rivers said it best. Youth is not an excuse. Fizz on the other hand make it a point to make it an excuse.
Chandler @ 4/2/2019 11:48 AM
Vmart wrote:Doc Rivers said it best. Youth is not an excuse. Fizz on the other hand make it a point to make it an excuse.

there is something to be said for that. Certainly the inexperience hurts, but the young legs should help especially if you're playing a more energy- and effort-oriented system, than a passing cerebral approach

Just sounds like another sales job, kicking the can down the road praying and hoping a superstar or three will fix everything.

dacash @ 4/2/2019 1:08 PM
fizz is a good salesman but his act kinda wears thin, he says keep what u kill but goes the opposite way with guys like mudiay.
martin @ 4/2/2019 1:49 PM
dacash wrote:fizz is a good salesman but his act kinda wears thin, he says keep what u kill but goes the opposite way with guys like mudiay.

unfortunately Mudiay didn't have much competition really. Frank failed, Burke didn't do much better than Mudiay. DSJr has only been here for a hot minute and started while Mudiay was injured and then got injured himself. Feel like Kadeem has been a bright spot for a nanosecond; I was actually surprised at his shooting %'s: 47% overall, 53% eFG%, 45% on 3pt attempts on 18 games at 20 minutes per, not too shabby on a bad team.

Nothing for Mudiay to kill

knicks1248 @ 4/2/2019 2:08 PM
martin wrote:
dacash wrote:fizz is a good salesman but his act kinda wears thin, he says keep what u kill but goes the opposite way with guys like mudiay.

unfortunately Mudiay didn't have much competition really. Frank failed, Burke didn't do much better than Mudiay. DSJr has only been here for a hot minute and started while Mudiay was injured and then got injured himself. Feel like Kadeem has been a bright spot for a nanosecond; I was actually surprised at his shooting %'s: 47% overall, 53% eFG%, 45% on 3pt attempts on 18 games at 20 minutes per, not too shabby on a bad team.

Nothing for Mudiay to kill

watched a little bit of the game yesterday and heard those stats and was quite surprise.

I also thought fiz through his team under the bus by saying they will focus on guys that can defend.

That's basically a coach saying.. I can't get players to defend, I can't teach them how to defend, all i can do is preach defense...smh

Vmart @ 4/2/2019 2:27 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
martin wrote:
dacash wrote:fizz is a good salesman but his act kinda wears thin, he says keep what u kill but goes the opposite way with guys like mudiay.

unfortunately Mudiay didn't have much competition really. Frank failed, Burke didn't do much better than Mudiay. DSJr has only been here for a hot minute and started while Mudiay was injured and then got injured himself. Feel like Kadeem has been a bright spot for a nanosecond; I was actually surprised at his shooting %'s: 47% overall, 53% eFG%, 45% on 3pt attempts on 18 games at 20 minutes per, not too shabby on a bad team.

Nothing for Mudiay to kill

watched a little bit of the game yesterday and heard those stats and was quite surprise.

I also thought fiz through his team under the bus by saying they will focus on guys that can defend.

That's basically a coach saying.. I can't get players to defend, I can't teach them how to defend, all i can do is preach defense...smh

Any time a coach says I need better players is basically not a coach. A coach coaches no matter who or what is given to him.

Chandler @ 4/2/2019 4:50 PM
martin wrote:
dacash wrote:fizz is a good salesman but his act kinda wears thin, he says keep what u kill but goes the opposite way with guys like mudiay.

unfortunately Mudiay didn't have much competition really. Frank failed, Burke didn't do much better than Mudiay. DSJr has only been here for a hot minute and started while Mudiay was injured and then got injured himself. Feel like Kadeem has been a bright spot for a nanosecond; I was actually surprised at his shooting %'s: 47% overall, 53% eFG%, 45% on 3pt attempts on 18 games at 20 minutes per, not too shabby on a bad team.

Nothing for Mudiay to kill

Kadeem has been a surprise. Henry Ellenson looked good for a game too.

My expectations of Fizz and the front office can only be exceeded at this point, so I guess that's good news

CrushAlot @ 4/2/2019 5:52 PM
Vmart wrote:Doc Rivers said it best. Youth is not an excuse. Fizz on the other hand make it a point to make it an excuse.

Doc had 4 rookies and 3 first year players the year he got fired from the Magic.
BigDaddyG @ 4/2/2019 6:17 PM
martin wrote:
dacash wrote:fizz is a good salesman but his act kinda wears thin, he says keep what u kill but goes the opposite way with guys like mudiay.

unfortunately Mudiay didn't have much competition really. Frank failed, Burke didn't do much better than Mudiay. DSJr has only been here for a hot minute and started while Mudiay was injured and then got injured himself. Feel like Kadeem has been a bright spot for a nanosecond; I was actually surprised at his shooting %'s: 47% overall, 53% eFG%, 45% on 3pt attempts on 18 games at 20 minutes per, not too shabby on a bad team.

Nothing for Mudiay to kill


PG is the only area where I felt he handled things fairly. But the way he handled the forward rotations was mess. What did Hezonja kill! What did Knox kill? I understand that we all want the kid the play, but c'mon. How accountable did he hold THJ? What the hell was he trying to do with Frank at PF? The baffling crunch time plays.... There is a lot to question about Fiz, even when you consider this was a youth development season. But that's no excuse to at least plant the seeds of an offensive or defensive system.I get that it's first year here and he needs more time. But I'd be lying if I said I had much confidence in him heading into next season.
CrushAlot @ 4/2/2019 7:37 PM
GustavBahler @ 4/2/2019 8:59 PM
CrushAlot wrote:

No promises

fishmike @ 4/3/2019 12:30 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Vmart wrote:Doc Rivers said it best. Youth is not an excuse. Fizz on the other hand make it a point to make it an excuse.

Doc had 4 rookies and 3 first year players the year he got fired from the Magic.
you are always trying to inject logic into these threads. Have you learned nothing?
Cartman718 @ 4/3/2019 12:36 PM
fishmike wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Vmart wrote:Doc Rivers said it best. Youth is not an excuse. Fizz on the other hand make it a point to make it an excuse.

Doc had 4 rookies and 3 first year players the year he got fired from the Magic.

you are always trying to inject logic into these threads. Have you learned nothing?
Exactly
knicks1248 @ 4/3/2019 12:49 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Vmart wrote:Doc Rivers said it best. Youth is not an excuse. Fizz on the other hand make it a point to make it an excuse.

Doc had 4 rookies and 3 first year players the year he got fired from the Magic.

you are always trying to inject logic into these threads. Have you learned nothing?
Exactly

doc states I got fired from orlando for the same type of environment FIZ is in, so why is youth and excuse.

how do you justify keeping a coach that has a roster playing no defense, no offense, no chemistry, don't play hard, don't play smart, too much 1 on 1, rarely share the ball, and only 2 out of 20 players improved.

At the end of the day what did fiz do well?

Cartman718 @ 4/3/2019 1:39 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Vmart wrote:Doc Rivers said it best. Youth is not an excuse. Fizz on the other hand make it a point to make it an excuse.
Doc had 4 rookies and 3 first year players the year he got fired from the Magic.
you are always trying to inject logic into these threads. Have you learned nothing?
Exactly
doc states I got fired from orlando for the same type of environment FIZ is in, so why is youth and excuse.

how do you justify keeping a coach that has a roster playing no defense, no offense, no chemistry, don't play hard, don't play smart, too much 1 on 1, rarely share the ball, and only 2 out of 20 players improved.

At the end of the day what did fiz do well?

He at least got your hormones going. That was entertaining enough.
Vmart @ 4/3/2019 1:51 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Vmart wrote:Doc Rivers said it best. Youth is not an excuse. Fizz on the other hand make it a point to make it an excuse.

Doc had 4 rookies and 3 first year players the year he got fired from the Magic.

you are always trying to inject logic into these threads. Have you learned nothing?
Exactly

doc states I got fired from orlando for the same type of environment FIZ is in, so why is youth and excuse.

how do you justify keeping a coach that has a roster playing no defense, no offense, no chemistry, don't play hard, don't play smart, too much 1 on 1, rarely share the ball, and only 2 out of 20 players improved.

At the end of the day what did fiz do well?

That is logic they just don’t comprehend.

ramtour420 @ 4/3/2019 9:32 PM
Hard to tell in a tanking season
Sangfroid @ 4/3/2019 9:55 PM
ramtour420 wrote:Hard to tell in a tanking season

Regardless, some semblance of a defensive scheme would have been appreciated. Throwing Mitch in and expecting him to lock down the opposing team is not realistic.

arkrud @ 4/3/2019 10:54 PM
Sangfroid wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Hard to tell in a tanking season

Regardless, some semblance of a defensive scheme would have been appreciated. Throwing Mitch in and expecting him to lock down the opposing team is not realistic.

"defensive scheme" like what? Who will execute it? Some fans from celebrity row?

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