knickstorrents wrote:I'd rather get 2 shots at the draft rather than 1, since I don't think RJ Barrett is that great. Given that it's a crapshoot, I'd rather get 2 shots at a star rather than 1.So if I can trade down and get Jarrett Culver who I like much more, and another pick, even if its late in the lottery like 20 plus, I think its worth it. Because RJ Barrett is the type of player that helps sell tickets, not win games.
Sure, it’s like taking 1 shot at the hoop from 10 feet away vs shooting 2 shots at a few carnival goldfish bowls from 20 feet away.
Barretts and Jas potential are much greater. Keep the 3rd.
Allanfan20 wrote:knickstorrents wrote:I'd rather get 2 shots at the draft rather than 1, since I don't think RJ Barrett is that great. Given that it's a crapshoot, I'd rather get 2 shots at a star rather than 1.So if I can trade down and get Jarrett Culver who I like much more, and another pick, even if its late in the lottery like 20 plus, I think its worth it. Because RJ Barrett is the type of player that helps sell tickets, not win games.
Sure, it’s like taking 1 shot at the hoop from 10 feet away vs shooting 2 shots at a few carnival goldfish bowls from 20 feet away.
Barretts and Jas potential are much greater. Keep the 3rd.
Completely agree. Barrett is 18 years old, so saying he can't help you win games is way too premature.
knickstorrents wrote:I'd rather get 2 shots at the draft rather than 1, since I don't think RJ Barrett is that great. Given that it's a crapshoot, I'd rather get 2 shots at a star rather than 1.So if I can trade down and get Jarrett Culver who I like much more, and another pick, even if its late in the lottery like 20 plus, I think its worth it. Because RJ Barrett is the type of player that helps sell tickets, not win games.
To peg him as you have, I can't agree with your assessment. This kid is accomplished in his own right.
Im on record for prescribing that more opportunities create luck. So I have to agree. At the same time I have to have a very strong conviction about who I want to make a trade like your saying and the price. If its Culver, where is he drafted at? At the same time in reverse the team doing the deal has to have a very strong conviction for whom they want at the three. Depends on their objectives as well. I liked Culver at the 5 spot where I thought we were drafting. The situation is perspective. Won't know for 3-4 years.
Nalod wrote:knickstorrents wrote:I'd rather get 2 shots at the draft rather than 1, since I don't think RJ Barrett is that great. Given that it's a crapshoot, I'd rather get 2 shots at a star rather than 1.So if I can trade down and get Jarrett Culver who I like much more, and another pick, even if its late in the lottery like 20 plus, I think its worth it. Because RJ Barrett is the type of player that helps sell tickets, not win games.
To peg him as you have, I can't agree with your assessment. This kid is accomplished in his own right.
Im on record for prescribing that more opportunities create luck. So I have to agree. At the same time I have to have a very strong conviction about who I want to make a trade like your saying and the price. If its Culver, where is he drafted at? At the same time in reverse the team doing the deal has to have a very strong conviction for whom they want at the three. Depends on their objectives as well. I liked Culver at the 5 spot where I thought we were drafting. The situation is perspective. Won't know for 3-4 years.
I look at it like this. If Culver were a guaranteed star, wouldn’t he be a top 4 pick no matter what at 3? If not 3, then why is Garland even being semi considered at 4 let alone getting a promise, rather than Culver? Why would Atlanta even consider trading their 2 picks for the 3rd, if they thought Culver was a star?
If you trade the pick for AD, I can get that. I get why. I don’t love the idea of trading everything for AD but I get it. He’s a guaranteed super duper star.
But trading something that’s guaranteed to at least be really good for 2 things far less known is a bad gamble. This is not a deep draft. We need to take advantage of where we are.
Allanfan20 wrote:Nalod wrote:knickstorrents wrote:I'd rather get 2 shots at the draft rather than 1, since I don't think RJ Barrett is that great. Given that it's a crapshoot, I'd rather get 2 shots at a star rather than 1.So if I can trade down and get Jarrett Culver who I like much more, and another pick, even if its late in the lottery like 20 plus, I think its worth it. Because RJ Barrett is the type of player that helps sell tickets, not win games.
To peg him as you have, I can't agree with your assessment. This kid is accomplished in his own right.
Im on record for prescribing that more opportunities create luck. So I have to agree. At the same time I have to have a very strong conviction about who I want to make a trade like your saying and the price. If its Culver, where is he drafted at? At the same time in reverse the team doing the deal has to have a very strong conviction for whom they want at the three. Depends on their objectives as well. I liked Culver at the 5 spot where I thought we were drafting. The situation is perspective. Won't know for 3-4 years.
I look at it like this. If Culver were a guaranteed star, wouldn’t he be a top 4 pick no matter what at 3? If not 3, then why is Garland even being semi considered at 4 let alone getting a promise, rather than Culver? Why would Atlanta even consider trading their 2 picks for the 3rd, if they thought Culver was a star?
If you trade the pick for AD, I can get that. I get why. I don’t love the idea of trading everything for AD but I get it. He’s a guaranteed super duper star.
But trading something that’s guaranteed to at least be really good for 2 things far less known is a bad gamble. This is not a deep draft. We need to take advantage of where we are.
Everytime someone says this, the best players are usually the Number #1 and couple more out of the top 10
Yep, I don't believe this is a 3 player draft with a steep drop off. That's just following what everyone says. Use your eyes and watch the players. From what I've seen Culver plays more under control, with better defense, shooting and passing then Barrett. If someone wants to swap picks and give additional assets to draft Barrett, I say let them!!!
