Knicks · My Way Too Early Take on RJ Barrett (page 5)

JesseDark wrote:Just figured out who RJ reminds me of, Renaldo Balkman.

Lol. Come on man. Barrett right now is better than Balkman every was and I liked Balkman. Barrett's ceiling is going to be based on whether he learns to shoot but for right now, he should continue focusing on rebounding, passing, and scoring in the paint.

TheGame wrote:

JesseDark wrote:Just figured out who RJ reminds me of, Renaldo Balkman.

Lol. Come on man. Barrett right now is better than Balkman every was and I liked Balkman. Barrett's ceiling is going to be based on whether he learns to shoot but for right now, he should continue focusing on rebounding, passing, and scoring in the paint.

Yes he is, just in looks and kind of in the way he runs.

Marv wrote:Wow guys are actually afraid of an rj/jalen comparison?? A guy with strong defense who put up seasons of
24/4/5/50%efg
22/4/5/45
21/5/5/48
20/5/4/49
19/5/4/47
19/3/3/50
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That would be a disppointment to u?

I think they're scarred by the end-of-career Jalen Rose we got in that IT era trade, where you knew Larry Brown was going to hate him but Larry Brown insisted we trade for him anyways even though he didn't fit the team at all.

CrushAlot wrote:I give RJ credit for playing. Guys drafted around him aren’t participating. Zion, Ja, Garland, Culver etc. I guess you can’t be criticized if you don’t try but the Knicks have been the focus of the media in Vegas. Glad RJ had a reasonable game yesterday.

Exactly

As someone else mentioned in another thread his game feeds off of craftiness, and I think he exploits any size advantage well. He should be attacking and posting up (and working like a dog to improve his jumper)

Marv wrote:Wow guys are actually afraid of an rj/jalen comparison?? A guy with strong defense who put up seasons of
24/4/5/50%efg
22/4/5/45
21/5/5/48
20/5/4/49
19/5/4/47
19/3/3/50
18/5/4/50

That would be a disppointment to u?

Jalen Rose was a solid NBA player. What scares me is RJ can't shoot at all. If he ends up a high usage player he better be able to shoot or give out 8 assists a game.

Jmpasq wrote:

Marv wrote:Wow guys are actually afraid of an rj/jalen comparison?? A guy with strong defense who put up seasons of
24/4/5/50%efg
22/4/5/45
21/5/5/48
20/5/4/49
19/5/4/47
19/3/3/50
18/5/4/50

That would be a disppointment to u?

Jalen Rose was a solid NBA player. What scares me is RJ can't shoot at all. If he ends up a high usage player he better be able to shoot or give out 8 assists a game.

Yep. I'm afraid he could also turn into Evan Turner. Turner is a guy who can be a secondary or tertiary ball-handler, but doesn't have great burst. Turner, like Barrett, also has a junpshot that looks like it should go in more than it does. Turner was the #2 pick in what was considered a stronger draft in 2010. A Jalen Rose type career doesn't seem that bad.

BigDaddyG wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

Marv wrote:Wow guys are actually afraid of an rj/jalen comparison?? A guy with strong defense who put up seasons of
24/4/5/50%efg
22/4/5/45
21/5/5/48
20/5/4/49
19/5/4/47
19/3/3/50
18/5/4/50

That would be a disppointment to u?

Jalen Rose was a solid NBA player. What scares me is RJ can't shoot at all. If he ends up a high usage player he better be able to shoot or give out 8 assists a game.

Yep. I'm afraid he could also turn into Evan Turner. Turner is a guy who can be a secondary or tertiary ball-handler, but doesn't have great burst. Turner, like Barrett, also has a junpshot that looks like it should go in more than it does. Turner was the #2 pick in what was considered a stronger draft in 2010. A Jalen Rose type career doesn't seem that bad.

I forgot he went that high. I didn’t think Barrett was that poor of an athlete

Jmpasq wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

Marv wrote:Wow guys are actually afraid of an rj/jalen comparison?? A guy with strong defense who put up seasons of
24/4/5/50%efg
22/4/5/45
21/5/5/48
20/5/4/49
19/5/4/47
19/3/3/50
18/5/4/50

That would be a disppointment to u?

Jalen Rose was a solid NBA player. What scares me is RJ can't shoot at all. If he ends up a high usage player he better be able to shoot or give out 8 assists a game.

Yep. I'm afraid he could also turn into Evan Turner. Turner is a guy who can be a secondary or tertiary ball-handler, but doesn't have great burst. Turner, like Barrett, also has a junpshot that looks like it should go in more than it does. Turner was the #2 pick in what was considered a stronger draft in 2010. A Jalen Rose type career doesn't seem that bad.

I forgot he went that high. I didn’t think Barrett was that poor of an athlete

I think RJ is a solid athlete. He just doesn't have that burst the superstars have. Isaiah used Ron Artest and Paul Piece as example during today's summer league telecast. It's not a perfect comparison, but I see what he is getting at. RJ is going to have to learn to set guys up and use his body more at the NBA level.

StarksEwing1 wrote:the kid can flat out get to the hoop. He has shown a lot of strength despite being so young and will get stronger. His passing and rebounding is another great sign. I personally believe his shooting will get better.

i dont care about shooting right now..can he create on the dribble against nba players...I watched him off ball movement there is none..he might end up being a player who needs the ball who dribble dribble dribble

StarksEwing1 wrote:the kid can flat out get to the hoop. He has shown a lot of strength despite being so young and will get stronger. His passing and rebounding is another great sign. I personally believe his shooting will get better.

Im sure he will improve his shooting some too but its unverving to watch him not be able to blow by guys who will be playing in whatever league the Ball brothers played in. He just doesn't have that explosion you expect the 3rd pick in the draft to have. Doesn't it limit his ceiling some? He is going to really have to improve his passing to become a star.

Jmpasq wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:the kid can flat out get to the hoop. He has shown a lot of strength despite being so young and will get stronger. His passing and rebounding is another great sign. I personally believe his shooting will get better.

Im sure he will improve his shooting some too but its unverving to watch him not be able to blow by guys who will be playing in whatever league the Ball brothers played in. He just doesn't have that explosion you expect the 3rd pick in the draft to have. Doesn't it limit his ceiling some? He is going to really have to improve his passing to become a star.

JesseDark wrote:Just figured out who RJ reminds me of, Renaldo Balkman.

There is nothing about the way RJ shoots, dribbles, passes, looks or runs that is similar to Balkman

Uptown wrote:

JesseDark wrote:Just figured out who RJ reminds me of, Renaldo Balkman.

There is nothing about the way RJ shoots, dribbles, passes, looks or runs that is similar to Balkman

Solid point. Maybe Lee Nailon is a better comparison.

Uptown wrote:Since some were ready to call RJ a bust after 1 summer league game, can go to the other extreme and call him a future hall of famer after his near triple double in his final game?!

No. You're trash if you can't get a triple double in Summer League, close or not lol Glad he felt more comfortable at the tail end. It's just SL, but it's still good to see.

Allanfan20 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

JesseDark wrote:Just figured out who RJ reminds me of, Renaldo Balkman.

There is nothing about the way RJ shoots, dribbles, passes, looks or runs that is similar to Balkman

Solid point. Maybe Lee Nailon is a better comparison.

Ooof. That stings.