Knicks · Will The Knicks Win More Then 30 Games Within the Next 3 Seasons? (page 3)

Marv @ 7/19/2019 2:41 PM
i think u can add portis to the core. with our lack of size, mitch's fouling issues and portis' ability to hit the 3 i think he's going to have a big role.
fishmike @ 7/19/2019 2:51 PM
Hey look.. its Julius Randle with a triple double

Marv @ 7/19/2019 3:05 PM
hey look...it's frank shutting down a poser.

ramtour420 @ 7/19/2019 3:09 PM
Marv wrote:hey look...it's frank shutting down a poser.

How much do I love that video . . .

CrushAlot @ 7/19/2019 4:50 PM
Marv wrote:hey look...it's frank shutting down a poser.

That was awesome.

ekstarks94 @ 7/19/2019 6:33 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Marv wrote:hey look...it's frank shutting down a poser.

That was awesome.


Really hoping Frank turns the corner...
TPercy @ 7/20/2019 4:16 AM
I think 35 is in our bag with a healthy team. This team will score, but defense remains a problem.
dwiley20 @ 7/20/2019 8:39 AM
we will win 40 games
martin @ 7/20/2019 1:29 PM
For me, 30 games won and the team took a step forward, but it will also have to do with how much the young guys progress.

40 games and the coaching staff did very good things.

Playoffs and we all get to start the ban chant of "Lock him up" for various posters who want to fire the FO right now

toodarkmark @ 7/20/2019 2:54 PM
Just as I thought. Delusion for days.

24 wins. 29 wins. 15 wins. There's your next 3 seasons.

Mills. Perey. Fizdale. All fired.

You're just lying to yourself if you think differently. Is 20 years of Dolan not enough of a sample size?

They signed loser free agents. Julius Randle has never played for a winning team, and he's your best player?

Stop it. Why did I post this? Because I gave my heart to the Knicks for 32 years and finally decided it was enough. And honestly, I hate to see others waste their time. As long as fans keep talking about bs like building a culture, not overspending on free agents. This is all denial stuff. The Knicks are not breaking 30 wins in 20, 2021, 2022. All the free agents knew this, their agents knew this, the media knows this. Everyone knows this except the James Dolan enabling Knicks fan. Your money, your hope, this is why the Knicks will continue to be losers. You let James Dolan do this.

smackeddog @ 7/20/2019 4:07 PM
toodarkmark wrote:Just as I thought. Delusion for days.

24 wins. 29 wins. 15 wins. There's your next 3 seasons.

Mills. Perey. Fizdale. All fired.

You're just lying to yourself if you think differently. Is 20 years of Dolan not enough of a sample size?

They signed loser free agents. Julius Randle has never played for a winning team, and he's your best player?

Stop it. Why did I post this? Because I gave my heart to the Knicks for 32 years and finally decided it was enough. And honestly, I hate to see others waste their time. As long as fans keep talking about bs like building a culture, not overspending on free agents. This is all denial stuff. The Knicks are not breaking 30 wins in 20, 2021, 2022. All the free agents knew this, their agents knew this, the media knows this. Everyone knows this except the James Dolan enabling Knicks fan. Your money, your hope, this is why the Knicks will continue to be losers. You let James Dolan do this.

Impressive that you know our record in 3 years time!

Great, you want everyone else to be as miserable about the team as you are. How about instead you go and find something more enjoyable to invest your time and energy into instead of trying to grind down everyone else?

Nalod @ 7/20/2019 5:52 PM
toodarkmark wrote:Just as I thought. Delusion for days.

24 wins. 29 wins. 15 wins. There's your next 3 seasons.

Mills. Perey. Fizdale. All fired.

You're just lying to yourself if you think differently. Is 20 years of Dolan not enough of a sample size?

They signed loser free agents. Julius Randle has never played for a winning team, and he's your best player?

Stop it. Why did I post this? Because I gave my heart to the Knicks for 32 years and finally decided it was enough. And honestly, I hate to see others waste their time. As long as fans keep talking about bs like building a culture, not overspending on free agents. This is all denial stuff. The Knicks are not breaking 30 wins in 20, 2021, 2022. All the free agents knew this, their agents knew this, the media knows this. Everyone knows this except the James Dolan enabling Knicks fan. Your money, your hope, this is why the Knicks will continue to be losers. You let James Dolan do this.

TDM, We appreciate the advice but your kind of doing the playground "sour grapes" thing. Understandable your "Knick Bitter" and with good cause. Some of us see a break in decision making. If Dolan is out of the loop for basketball decisions Im good. He is an asshole.

I believe in science and a change in process leads to change. KP was bad regrettable circumstance and it set us back.
Most of us are not delusional. Its our choice to have faith.
We wish you well and if knicks improve there is always room on the bandwagon for you again. But if your gonna act childish about your self imposed exile then "Phuck off".

jrodmc @ 7/21/2019 3:01 PM
toodarkmark wrote:Just as I thought. Delusion for days.

24 wins. 29 wins. 15 wins. There's your next 3 seasons.

Mills. Perey. Fizdale. All fired.

You're just lying to yourself if you think differently. Is 20 years of Dolan not enough of a sample size?

They signed loser free agents. Julius Randle has never played for a winning team, and he's your best player?

Stop it. Why did I post this? Because I gave my heart to the Knicks for 32 years and finally decided it was enough. And honestly, I hate to see others waste their time. As long as fans keep talking about bs like building a culture, not overspending on free agents. This is all denial stuff. The Knicks are not breaking 30 wins in 20, 2021, 2022. All the free agents knew this, their agents knew this, the media knows this. Everyone knows this except the James Dolan enabling Knicks fan. Your money, your hope, this is why the Knicks will continue to be losers. You let James Dolan do this.

Wasting time. Like posting a troll poll based on a little hissy fit? Like announcing that you're fandom is based on the franchise doing what you, oh internet genius, demand that they do?
James Dolan is a billionaire. Billionaire. Say that a few times to yourself. He doesn't need to LET us dorky, sports-forum-posting, GM wannabes LET him do anything.
You don't like the coach, the GM, you don't like the Prez, and you don't like the owner. And you're sick of losing. And you obviously don't like the team.

Congratulations. The Clips, Lakers, or Nets are waiting for you with open arms.

I hate to see people so full of angst and worry over being a fan of a basketball team. A FAN. I've been a Knicks fan since the 1960's, so take your 32 year love affair and find some other franchise where they will reward your love with non-bs moves like destroying culture and overspending on free agents. Maybe they'll even trade away some future 1st round draft picks, too! I bet you loved the Phil error, huh?

Maybe you should consider a job with ESPN, so you can rant and get paid for it.

Marv @ 7/21/2019 3:37 PM
Hey i don’t begrudge any longtime knicks fan his anger or disgust.

I however am a happy camper at the moment.

I came into this offseason with the following do’s and don’ts:

DON’T
-sign an injured kd
-sign kyrie since we don’t have to to get kd
-trade for ad
-trade this year’s #3 pick

DO
-sign someone from randle/middleton/russell/brogdon/harris
-sign some young guys who have a chance to join the core (portis, payton)
-draft barrett
-draft someone with genuine promise with our #2
-sign a couple of undrafted guys
-keep frank
-keep our upcoming #1’s

I’m also fine with bullock, taj, ellington, morris. These guys can all contribute to what i see as our current agenda - play every game to win while also giving the youth core a full chance to see who’s gonna pop.

Ira @ 7/21/2019 5:58 PM
This cast of characters won't win 30, but when you say within the next 3 seasons I have to vote yes.
Chandler @ 7/22/2019 10:06 AM
Marv wrote:hey look...it's frank shutting down a poser.

Back in the good old days when the coach knew enough to have Frank guard point

hopefully Fizdale is looking at stuff like this. As i've said a million times before, worst case Frank should be our version of Marcus Smart (picked 6th, btw).

knicks1248 @ 7/22/2019 4:41 PM
jrodmc wrote:
toodarkmark wrote:Just as I thought. Delusion for days.

24 wins. 29 wins. 15 wins. There's your next 3 seasons.

Mills. Perey. Fizdale. All fired.

You're just lying to yourself if you think differently. Is 20 years of Dolan not enough of a sample size?

They signed loser free agents. Julius Randle has never played for a winning team, and he's your best player?

Stop it. Why did I post this? Because I gave my heart to the Knicks for 32 years and finally decided it was enough. And honestly, I hate to see others waste their time. As long as fans keep talking about bs like building a culture, not overspending on free agents. This is all denial stuff. The Knicks are not breaking 30 wins in 20, 2021, 2022. All the free agents knew this, their agents knew this, the media knows this. Everyone knows this except the James Dolan enabling Knicks fan. Your money, your hope, this is why the Knicks will continue to be losers. You let James Dolan do this.

Wasting time. Like posting a troll poll based on a little hissy fit? Like announcing that you're fandom is based on the franchise doing what you, oh internet genius, demand that they do?
James Dolan is a billionaire. Billionaire. Say that a few times to yourself. He doesn't need to LET us dorky, sports-forum-posting, GM wannabes LET him do anything.
You don't like the coach, the GM, you don't like the Prez, and you don't like the owner. And you're sick of losing. And you obviously don't like the team.

Congratulations. The Clips, Lakers, or Nets are waiting for you with open arms.

I hate to see people so full of angst and worry over being a fan of a basketball team. A FAN. I've been a Knicks fan since the 1960's, so take your 32 year love affair and find some other franchise where they will reward your love with non-bs moves like destroying culture and overspending on free agents. Maybe they'll even trade away some future 1st round draft picks, too! I bet you loved the Phil error, huh?

Maybe you should consider a job with ESPN, so you can rant and get paid for it.


I said 42 to 46 wins and ppl thought i was smoking crack, the person states 3 more lottery season and you kill him for that..

I don't know one single KNICK FAN that likes james dolan, is approving rating make TRUMP look like the best president ever.

we have been a stupid run franchise since he took over, we have had 6 straight lottery season..and our goal is to win 30 fckng games and that what you guys consider progress...

Nalod @ 7/22/2019 5:47 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
toodarkmark wrote:Just as I thought. Delusion for days.

24 wins. 29 wins. 15 wins. There's your next 3 seasons.

Mills. Perey. Fizdale. All fired.

You're just lying to yourself if you think differently. Is 20 years of Dolan not enough of a sample size?

They signed loser free agents. Julius Randle has never played for a winning team, and he's your best player?

Stop it. Why did I post this? Because I gave my heart to the Knicks for 32 years and finally decided it was enough. And honestly, I hate to see others waste their time. As long as fans keep talking about bs like building a culture, not overspending on free agents. This is all denial stuff. The Knicks are not breaking 30 wins in 20, 2021, 2022. All the free agents knew this, their agents knew this, the media knows this. Everyone knows this except the James Dolan enabling Knicks fan. Your money, your hope, this is why the Knicks will continue to be losers. You let James Dolan do this.

Wasting time. Like posting a troll poll based on a little hissy fit? Like announcing that you're fandom is based on the franchise doing what you, oh internet genius, demand that they do?
James Dolan is a billionaire. Billionaire. Say that a few times to yourself. He doesn't need to LET us dorky, sports-forum-posting, GM wannabes LET him do anything.
You don't like the coach, the GM, you don't like the Prez, and you don't like the owner. And you're sick of losing. And you obviously don't like the team.

Congratulations. The Clips, Lakers, or Nets are waiting for you with open arms.

I hate to see people so full of angst and worry over being a fan of a basketball team. A FAN. I've been a Knicks fan since the 1960's, so take your 32 year love affair and find some other franchise where they will reward your love with non-bs moves like destroying culture and overspending on free agents. Maybe they'll even trade away some future 1st round draft picks, too! I bet you loved the Phil error, huh?

Maybe you should consider a job with ESPN, so you can rant and get paid for it.


I said 42 to 46 wins and ppl thought i was smoking crack, the person states 3 more lottery season and you kill him for that..

I don't know one single KNICK FAN that likes james dolan, is approving rating make TRUMP look like the best president ever.

we have been a stupid run franchise since he took over, we have had 6 straight lottery season..and our goal is to win 30 fckng games and that what you guys consider progress...



nobody here sets the agenda or win projections.
you said 40 plus wins? You always going off on how Fiz can’t coach, no stars, FO gonna get fired etc. Nobody said you on crack. But who ever dropped you on our head as a baby might have been?
franco12 @ 7/23/2019 8:06 AM
Marv wrote:Hey i don’t begrudge any longtime knicks fan his anger or disgust.

I however am a happy camper at the moment.

I came into this offseason with the following do’s and don’ts:

DON’T
-sign an injured kd
-sign kyrie since we don’t have to to get kd
-trade for ad
-trade this year’s #3 pick

DO
-sign someone from randle/middleton/russell/brogdon/harris
-sign some young guys who have a chance to join the core (portis, payton)
-draft barrett
-draft someone with genuine promise with our #2
-sign a couple of undrafted guys
-keep frank
-keep our upcoming #1’s

I’m also fine with bullock, taj, ellington, morris. These guys can all contribute to what i see as our current agenda - play every game to win while also giving the youth core a full chance to see who’s gonna pop.

same.

I think our FO gets it and is starting to put their resources to good use. There was a story about how we were the only team scouting the play offs because we were looking for players that step up during the play offs, that did the little things to win.

We might not win and Perry & Fizdale might fail and end up fired. But at least they tried the right way.

jrodmc @ 7/23/2019 9:53 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
toodarkmark wrote:Just as I thought. Delusion for days.

24 wins. 29 wins. 15 wins. There's your next 3 seasons.

Mills. Perey. Fizdale. All fired.

You're just lying to yourself if you think differently. Is 20 years of Dolan not enough of a sample size?

They signed loser free agents. Julius Randle has never played for a winning team, and he's your best player?

Stop it. Why did I post this? Because I gave my heart to the Knicks for 32 years and finally decided it was enough. And honestly, I hate to see others waste their time. As long as fans keep talking about bs like building a culture, not overspending on free agents. This is all denial stuff. The Knicks are not breaking 30 wins in 20, 2021, 2022. All the free agents knew this, their agents knew this, the media knows this. Everyone knows this except the James Dolan enabling Knicks fan. Your money, your hope, this is why the Knicks will continue to be losers. You let James Dolan do this.

Wasting time. Like posting a troll poll based on a little hissy fit? Like announcing that you're fandom is based on the franchise doing what you, oh internet genius, demand that they do?
James Dolan is a billionaire. Billionaire. Say that a few times to yourself. He doesn't need to LET us dorky, sports-forum-posting, GM wannabes LET him do anything.
You don't like the coach, the GM, you don't like the Prez, and you don't like the owner. And you're sick of losing. And you obviously don't like the team.

Congratulations. The Clips, Lakers, or Nets are waiting for you with open arms.

I hate to see people so full of angst and worry over being a fan of a basketball team. A FAN. I've been a Knicks fan since the 1960's, so take your 32 year love affair and find some other franchise where they will reward your love with non-bs moves like destroying culture and overspending on free agents. Maybe they'll even trade away some future 1st round draft picks, too! I bet you loved the Phil error, huh?

Maybe you should consider a job with ESPN, so you can rant and get paid for it.


I said 42 to 46 wins and ppl thought i was smoking crack, the person states 3 more lottery season and you kill him for that..

I don't know one single KNICK FAN that likes james dolan, is approving rating make TRUMP look like the best president ever.

we have been a stupid run franchise since he took over, we have had 6 straight lottery season..and our goal is to win 30 fckng games and that what you guys consider progress...

You don't know any knicks fans who like James Dolan? Brilliant. James Dolan probably doesn't know anyone who likes you. Or has even heard of anyone who even GAF about you. Beeyatch about him, rail at him, but he's obviously not going anywhere. He's the owner of the most valuable NBA franchise in existence. Live with it and move on. Or not. Like I said, you believe the sky is falling continually for years in knick land? Is the world ending in 3 years? Move to the Barclays. Go west, young man. Apparently, they could use your help. Like our boy toddreallydarkmark, don't waste your time. Or mine for that matter, by telling me how I'm wasting my time as a fan of the team of my choice.

Despite several losing seasons over the last two decades, the Knicks are still the most valuable NBA franchise and third-most valuable U.S. sports franchise, per Forbes. The Knicks' $4 billion valuation is up 11 percent from last year and has them three spots ahead of the Los Angeles Lakers ($3.7 billion), a team that was valued higher than the Knicks as recently as 2012. Atlantic Division rivals Boston Celtics rank 22 while the Nets, who bested the Knicks in free agency this summer, come in at 37 on the list.
knicks1248 @ 7/23/2019 10:35 AM
jrodmc wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
toodarkmark wrote:Just as I thought. Delusion for days.

24 wins. 29 wins. 15 wins. There's your next 3 seasons.

Mills. Perey. Fizdale. All fired.

You're just lying to yourself if you think differently. Is 20 years of Dolan not enough of a sample size?

They signed loser free agents. Julius Randle has never played for a winning team, and he's your best player?

Stop it. Why did I post this? Because I gave my heart to the Knicks for 32 years and finally decided it was enough. And honestly, I hate to see others waste their time. As long as fans keep talking about bs like building a culture, not overspending on free agents. This is all denial stuff. The Knicks are not breaking 30 wins in 20, 2021, 2022. All the free agents knew this, their agents knew this, the media knows this. Everyone knows this except the James Dolan enabling Knicks fan. Your money, your hope, this is why the Knicks will continue to be losers. You let James Dolan do this.

Wasting time. Like posting a troll poll based on a little hissy fit? Like announcing that you're fandom is based on the franchise doing what you, oh internet genius, demand that they do?
James Dolan is a billionaire. Billionaire. Say that a few times to yourself. He doesn't need to LET us dorky, sports-forum-posting, GM wannabes LET him do anything.
You don't like the coach, the GM, you don't like the Prez, and you don't like the owner. And you're sick of losing. And you obviously don't like the team.

Congratulations. The Clips, Lakers, or Nets are waiting for you with open arms.

I hate to see people so full of angst and worry over being a fan of a basketball team. A FAN. I've been a Knicks fan since the 1960's, so take your 32 year love affair and find some other franchise where they will reward your love with non-bs moves like destroying culture and overspending on free agents. Maybe they'll even trade away some future 1st round draft picks, too! I bet you loved the Phil error, huh?

Maybe you should consider a job with ESPN, so you can rant and get paid for it.


I said 42 to 46 wins and ppl thought i was smoking crack, the person states 3 more lottery season and you kill him for that..

I don't know one single KNICK FAN that likes james dolan, is approving rating make TRUMP look like the best president ever.

we have been a stupid run franchise since he took over, we have had 6 straight lottery season..and our goal is to win 30 fckng games and that what you guys consider progress...

You don't know any knicks fans who like James Dolan? Brilliant. James Dolan probably doesn't know anyone who likes you. Or has even heard of anyone who even GAF about you. Beeyatch about him, rail at him, but he's obviously not going anywhere. He's the owner of the most valuable NBA franchise in existence. Live with it and move on. Or not. Like I said, you believe the sky is falling continually for years in knick land? Is the world ending in 3 years? Move to the Barclays. Go west, young man. Apparently, they could use your help. Like our boy toddreallydarkmark, don't waste your time. Or mine for that matter, by telling me how I'm wasting my time as a fan of the team of my choice.

Despite several losing seasons over the last two decades, the Knicks are still the most valuable NBA franchise and third-most valuable U.S. sports franchise, per Forbes. The Knicks' $4 billion valuation is up 11 percent from last year and has them three spots ahead of the Los Angeles Lakers ($3.7 billion), a team that was valued higher than the Knicks as recently as 2012. Atlantic Division rivals Boston Celtics rank 22 while the Nets, who bested the Knicks in free agency this summer, come in at 37 on the list.

WTH are you rambling about...smh

listen, if you take this roster and put them all in a spurs uniform, the projections would not be lottery bound, it would be more like bottom half( 6th, 7th, or 8th) of the WC. Thats because of the coach, the culture, the winning habits, and the ability to raise the IQ of players.

When was the last time you heard a KNICKs FO talk about Playoffs, let me help you...It was since Woodson's last season 6 yrs ago, prior to Mills.

Phil and mills 1st press conference was about changing the culture, 6 straight losing season later Mills is preaching the same thing and striving for a 7th straight losing season..

how many losing season is a FO supposed to get a pass on?

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