Knicks · The Good News is there Are A Bunch of PGs in the draft (page 2)

BigDaddyG wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

fishmike wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:the bad news is this draft sucks. Ball brings his dad with him.. and we thought Janis was bad. My favorite PG is Cole Anthony. His comp on NBA draft net is Austin Rivers . I love watching Nico but his size reminds me of Shane Larkin . Killian Hayes: do we really want another French PG?

now.. but this time last year RJ was the projected #1 pick and nobody knew who Ja was. LaMelo looks like a great fit to be honest but yea... I want no part of Lavaar barking after every game to the NY media. Thats a non-starter.

while true it was evident RJ could ball. HE slipped because Zion and Ja had unreal years. RJ didn't stink those guys just went supernova. And, for the record, I said all year last year I wanted RJ and not getting the #1 overall would be a blessing in disguise (imho I think Zion is going to have a shorter than desired career)

but back to the point: the reason it looks like there are so many points is because none of em really sparkle

If it's any consolation, most of those draftnet's comparisons turn out to be trash when you look at them years later. I really don't see Rivers in an Anthony's game except they are lightskin and like to score. That comparison could easily CJ McCollum or Jarred Bayless. My only hesitancy surrounding Cole is I'm not sure he's a pure PG. We'll see. Lavar scares me, but LaMelo's talent is evident and we need talent. Lavar has been less vocal than in recent years, so we'll see.

Mannion doesn’t have big upside but looks like the purest PG with a good jumper and good skills. Not physically gifted but could be a poor mans Trae Young.

F. Vanvleet is a UFA and may be the guy to keep an eye on this upcoming offseason.

Swishfm3 wrote:F. Vanvleet is a UFA and may be the guy to keep an eye on this upcoming offseason.

Yeah he would be a great fit but I doubt Toronto let’s him go unless someone throws a ridiculous contract his way.

Chandler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:the bad news is this draft sucks. Ball brings his dad with him.. and we thought Janis was bad. My favorite PG is Cole Anthony. His comp on NBA draft net is Austin Rivers . I love watching Nico but his size reminds me of Shane Larkin . Killian Hayes: do we really want another French PG?

now.. but this time last year RJ was the projected #1 pick and nobody knew who Ja was. LaMelo looks like a great fit to be honest but yea... I want no part of Lavaar barking after every game to the NY media. Thats a non-starter.

ditto

fold in Lonzo at 2; lots of hype -- next Magic or Kidd -- but???

Frankly, i would focus on just getting the best player and not think too much about need. (see Clyde Drexler and MJ -- Portland picked Bowie because they had just picked Drexler the year before, passing on MJ)

We need a new CS and FO more than a pg, and i say this because there's no a pg alive who could save this current situation.

I guess I kinda fall somewhere in between here. I think James Wiseman should probably be the #1 pick. You could make an argument for Anthony Edwards though. And seeing as how we have more bigs than guards I would probably take Edwards (as of today though a lot can change). I also have interest in Isaiah Stewart (but not so much in players that play at Washington). Yes, we need a PG but I think all those guys are better prospects than the PGs, though there is time to change my mind.

Take the best player available. If redundant we trade the redundancy either alone or in package with another player or pick.
We have pieces that are trade worthy or will be.
If need be we trade for picks. If need be we trade for need.
At this rate we can assume a likey top 5th or 6th pick. Could be first? or lower. LIfe is uncertain. We draft. Sometimes they are LeBron, or Anthony Bennet, Greg Oden, or Len Bias.

Knixkik wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:F. Vanvleet is a UFA and may be the guy to keep an eye on this upcoming offseason.

Yeah he would be a great fit but I doubt Toronto let’s him go unless someone throws a ridiculous contract his way.

I don't see Raptors letting him go as well. wishful thinking. Our luck, the Knicks sign K.Lowly to a big contract

Swishfm3 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:F. Vanvleet is a UFA and may be the guy to keep an eye on this upcoming offseason.

Yeah he would be a great fit but I doubt Toronto let’s him go unless someone throws a ridiculous contract his way.

I don't see Raptors letting him go as well. wishful thinking. Our luck, the Knicks sign K.Lowly to a big contract

Vanfleet is undersized shooting guard not a point guard.

https://www.si.com/nba/2019/10/30/nba-mo...

2. Knicks — LaMelo Ball, G, Illawarra Hawks
Height: 6’6” | Weight: 180 | Age: 18

If you cut through all the hype and off-court drama that’s surrounded his family, Ball, in a vacuum, possesses a wealth of attractive on-court traits. His size, playmaking feel, jump shooting potential, and capacity to play uptempo gives him a chance to be a high-impact player at the NBA level, with a logical pathway to augmenting a team’s offense with his unique skill set. In a best-case scenario, Ball could become a productive lead guard, with potential to serve as the engine for a high-powered offense as his pull-up game continues to improve. His play, predictably, has been up and down in Australia so far, and accounting for his age, that’s to be expected—the simple fact he’s been productive, and a key part of his team’s offense, means something in itself. Safe to say, teams are monitoring him quite closely, and a respectable body of work in the NBL may legitimize his case as a top selection.

The biggest impediment Ball will face moving forward comes from his lack of plus strength and explosiveness. He’s been able to compensate to this point with a shifty handle and his ability to change speeds, and while his size helps a great deal, Ball still has a ways to go to fully account for his weaknesses at the highest level. Defensively, he might be a sieve. And while fun to watch, it’s unclear how much his freewheeling style of play contributes to winning basketball in a vacuum. Like his older brother Lonzo, LaMelo might project best as an above-average supporting player, rather than as a star who can prop up a successful team by way of his own ability. If we’re comparing the two, LaMelo is a much more scoring-oriented guard, with a natural level of comfort attacking off the dribble and playing in tight spaces that his brother still lacks on some level.

Safe to say, the Knicks’ point guard situation has been one of the more depressing revolving doors in the league for years, and based on their current trajectory, they should have options picking early in the draft.

houston20 wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:F. Vanvleet is a UFA and may be the guy to keep an eye on this upcoming offseason.

Yeah he would be a great fit but I doubt Toronto let’s him go unless someone throws a ridiculous contract his way.

I don't see Raptors letting him go as well. wishful thinking. Our luck, the Knicks sign K.Lowly to a big contract

Vanfleet is undersized shooting guard not a point guard.

I'll take the undersized SG who (only 6 games, I know) has shown he can organize an offense and is currently averaging 7 assists per game.

I saw Maxey last night. What a beast. Great range, quickness, and killer instinct. Not a true PG but a combo guard. I think alongside Barrett he would be a nice fit. Plays hard on both ends. Probably goes in the 4-7 range so should be attainable. He seems like one of those guys (similar to Barrett) that doesn't get rattled and performs when the lights are brightest, and wants to take over. We need more of those guys.

Cole Anthony just scored more points than any Tar Heel debutant in history. 34 pts including 23 in the 2nd half. He also has 11 rebounds and 5 assists. Encouraging start to say the least!

magicTs wrote:Cole Anthony just scored more points than any Tar Heel debutant in history. 34 pts including 23 in the 2nd half. He also has 11 rebounds and 5 assists. Encouraging start to say the least!

Some really good guards this year. Being really bad another year might not be so terrible if we can grab one of these guys.

Cole was insane.

Cole Anthony
RJ Barrett
Morris(resign)
Randle
Robinson

Frank/Payton/FA
Trier
Knox
Portis
Mason Plumlee

35-40 wins

2021

Cole Anthony
RJ Barrett
Giannis
Blake Griffin
Robinson

Chris Paul
2021 1st pick
Knox
2021 1st pick
Mason Plumlee

Knicks 2021-2022 NBA champions. Too easy.

Here is the lead guard we need to target in this years draft if we have the opportunity...

Uptown wrote:Here is the lead guard we need to target in this years draft if we have the opportunity...

He does not look to have much explosive athleticism, but damn can he shoot. I still think Ball and Edwards better prospects, but we need someone who can score and defend at the position.

Uptown wrote:Here is the lead guard we need to target in this years draft if we have the opportunity...

whoa, plus he has awesome goggles

martin wrote:

Uptown wrote:Here is the lead guard we need to target in this years draft if we have the opportunity...

whoa, plus he has awesome goggles

channeling Fizzdale?!?

TheGame wrote:

Uptown wrote:Here is the lead guard we need to target in this years draft if we have the opportunity...

He does not look to have much explosive athleticism, but damn can he shoot. I still think Ball and Edwards better prospects, but we need someone who can score and defend at the position.

The real reason to want him IMO is that his dad was Greg Anthony and I am willing to bet that how Cole Anthony will handle NYC will remind everyone of Eli Manning

TheGame wrote:

Uptown wrote:Here is the lead guard we need to target in this years draft if we have the opportunity...

He does not look to have much explosive athleticism, but damn can he shoot. I still think Ball and Edwards better prospects, but we need someone who can score and defend at the position.

Cole is a very good athlete for his position. He is just smooth offensively. His dad is a former pro and he has trained with pros. He's just advanced and it makes him look like he's going in slow motion at times. But the boy can get up.

I realized Cole is older than Barrett. It would be amazing if Barrett was a freshman right now with the things he's doing.

Knixkik wrote:I realized Cole is older than Barrett. It would be amazing if Barrett was a freshman right now with the things he's doing.

exactly