SupremeCommander wrote:doomed wrote:Trading KP for hot garbage was the worst thing this god forsaken franchise has done in the last 20 years. And it isn’t even close.
this is what happen when you trust anyone that went to Princeton
Bill Bradley
And shyt that gets you banned: Rebecca Haarlow went to Princeton. Ran track there. 
doomed wrote:Trading KP for hot garbage was the worst thing this god forsaken franchise has done in the last 20 years. And it isn’t even close.
Little to argue in the short sample since the trade. its bad. Gotta give it time to see what becomes of the cap space and the picks.
Also Randle is better than Timmy and CLee. In part, might add Julius to the trade? Kid is beasting. Im a fan, IM hopeful.
As for the worst? Beside what was mentioned I'd put Starbury trade up there. Steve Francis for Reezy was bad. Not franchise bad but it all adds up. Trading Craw and ZBo off a 23 win team made sense at the time. Zbo got in shape and matured. He was bad here.
Nalod wrote:doomed wrote:Trading KP for hot garbage was the worst thing this god forsaken franchise has done in the last 20 years. And it isn’t even close.
Little to argue in the short sample since the trade. its bad. Gotta give it time to see what becomes of the cap space and the picks.
Also Randle is better than Timmy and CLee. In part, might add Julius to the trade? Kid is beasting. Im a fan, IM hopeful.
As for the worst? Beside what was mentioned I'd put Starbury trade up there. Steve Francis for Reezy was bad. Not franchise bad but it all adds up. Trading Craw and ZBo off a 23 win team made sense at the time. Zbo got in shape and matured. He was bad here.
The general consensus is the Bargs trade was the worst ever for Knicks.
KP trade is not even close as it was unavoidable.
At that moment his trade value was at all time low.
One can argue KP should be traded earlier when Phil wanted to do it.
But there is no prophet in his own land...
Nalod wrote:doomed wrote:Trading KP for hot garbage was the worst thing this god forsaken franchise has done in the last 20 years. And it isn’t even close.
Little to argue in the short sample since the trade. its bad. Gotta give it time to see what becomes of the cap space and the picks.
Also Randle is better than Timmy and CLee. In part, might add Julius to the trade? Kid is beasting. Im a fan, IM hopeful.
As for the worst? Beside what was mentioned I'd put Starbury trade up there. Steve Francis for Reezy was bad. Not franchise bad but it all adds up. Trading Craw and ZBo off a 23 win team made sense at the time. Zbo got in shape and matured. He was bad here.
People seem to forget that the KP trade is the reason we can even have a sniff at guys like AD and KAT. When we go into trade talks, were no longer going in trying to pitch THJ, Courtney and whatever other crap for another teams star. We can offer solid picks and salary relief. We swung ad missed so far, but the game isn't over. Honestly, as good as KP has looked, he's still a borderline All Star. It's still too soon to say how good or bad this trade was either side
This guy needs to be locked up somehow.
yea I dont wish KP an injury riddled career to justify a trade. That being said when you consider his value its a factor. We'll see if its wear and tear and missing games or he just breaks down. Hope with a guy like that is you keep him to 30 minutes, hope to get 60ish games and healthy for the post season
CrushAlot wrote:KP is out again tonight.
Last played 12/29 and this will be 2 games in a row he has missed, not a good sign for that knee.
I am a little surprised at how the Mavs have handled KP. I know he missed a back-to-back earlier but then had played one recently, a back-to-back against GSW and then LAL. No reason for him to play against GSW and I don't know why they haven't help KP out once every 10 games ala Kawhi.
martin wrote:CrushAlot wrote:KP is out again tonight.
Last played 12/29 and this will be 2 games in a row he has missed, not a good sign for that knee.
I am a little surprised at how the Mavs have handled KP. I know he missed a back-to-back earlier but then had played one recently, a back-to-back against GSW and then LAL. No reason for him to play against GSW and I don't know why they haven't help KP out once every 10 games ala Kawhi.
Fooking Steve Mills, that's why!
No??
Then Blame Janis!!! He is lobbying for KP to have the same role that Sean Bradley had in space jam 1!
No?
BLame it on the rain?
No?
Dolan!! Always Dolan!!!
No?
Phil!
No?
I dunno. Was it foretold by "RainmanDamus"? Nostradamus knick fan drunk uncle descendent who tells us all?
martin wrote:CrushAlot wrote:KP is out again tonight.
Last played 12/29 and this will be 2 games in a row he has missed, not a good sign for that knee.
I am a little surprised at how the Mavs have handled KP. I know he missed a back-to-back earlier but then had played one recently, a back-to-back against GSW and then LAL. No reason for him to play against GSW and I don't know why they haven't help KP out once every 10 games ala Kawhi.
Yeah that seems obvious. If they can have him play 60-70 games and be healthy for the post season they would be in good shape. He was questionable for the 12/29 game with a sore foot.
oh this means some of your panties are getting untwisted?
CrushAlot wrote:
Not even the All-Star break. And playing mostly second fiddle. Seems to happen around the same time every season, whatever the circumstances. This could be Gallo all over again. Traded a good, young player, before injuries really tanked their value.
If KP wanted superstar money, and wanted out of NY? I wouldve traded him as well. Never thought he could carry a team like melo has been doing in his prime.
Injury prone
Wanted out of NY
Not a go to guy
Better to get something then to let him walk for nothing!
The title "Only going to get worse for knicks".......That after a nice Mav's run with KP at his best. "extrapolation" I have used this word before that one should never presume anyting in pro sports it static. Its always fluid with ebbs and flow to add intrigue. Its the nature of the beast.
At the time the OP made the statement, one could say "Its only going to get better". Why? Knicks responded to Miller and KP knee is balky.
What becomes from here? Who knows. Luka is the factor here. Kid is amazing.
That's said, maybe DSjr becomes Baron Davis as was hoped, and maybe we strike gold with the picks we received. one might say the cap space from Hardaway and Clee which in part diluted the trade yielded Morris or Randle. Hard to quantify which money gets used where but one can say Add Randle to the return from the cap space? Can say portis, Reggie, or Elf? I can say it, but its not quantifiable. For all we know, the Melo trade might be "we got Mitch for Melo!"......Hindsight. Maybe we build a statue of Mitch one day, and if so one for Perry as well for doing the deal! LOL, relax, just kidding.
Truth might be in hindsight when this title was created it was the low point. If so, then it only gets better for only one reason......It can't could not have gotten much worse.
Maybe this thread is still alive, 5 years from now, when Cuban pulls the lightning in a jar trick again and KP gets a ring. Hugging and crying with retired Dirk at mid court.
Then all the KP lovers can stand redeemed and exalted. Like Nazr Mohammed getting his ring with the Spurs, only much, much worse.
Given this board's hip low grade negativity and Knicks-self-loathing, that would seem more likely than DSJr becoming anything more than a really, really poor man's DRose Knicks tenure part Deux.
In any event, I'm still happy KP is gone.
"Things that can only get worse for the Knicks"... maybe threads like this merit their own Forum?
