He will be giving a long enough leash to get Towns, Embiid, or Booker to NY. Unfortunately all are on new long-term deals but at least 1 or 2 will be moved within 3 years i bet.
it IS negative and you are basically trolling Knicks fans on a Knick fan site.
So how about we see when there is something to see? So far we have a written statement. In the mean time piss off 
Doesn't mean we'll be good but he'll make 4 years. He's not a coach and I think he knows how to keep quiet.
He hasn’t even hired or fired a soul yet. He didn’t even implement a dress code let alone make a trade or signing that alters the course of the franchise.
I still believe in the slow build. Mitch has all star potential. If Barrett can get his jumper consistent then he will be at least a borderline all star. If we can get Ball in the draft then we should be in good shape to fill out the rest of the roster with our remaining draft picks. Gannis 2021!! That is all we need to turn into a contender.
I'm more hoping he brokers a deal with Dolan and any potential buyer/s
Its assumed he’ll go after just his ex clients?
Media has little to go on so it makes those assumptions.
We assume the worst.
Frank’s single coverage on Westbrook on the last play was like he hit the winning shot himself. But somehow defense does not matter.
Knicks record is deserving of the doubt. We are tough Fans but very sensitive to place our trust. We called for Mills head and got it, but then since we have no starphuch exec with a track record to extrapolate on we go back.
What a great Home win against the rockets who took us for granted.
3 years like pretty much everyone else not named zeke. I think like the others he will have a plan and then skew away from it because of pressure of dolan and media and try a risky move that will cost us dearly like the past couple of regimes. I would like to say that having bad luck for so long it would turn eventually but I don't see that.
I suppose until was taste success we will no be doubt ridden. Humans extrapolate the past and present into the future. Sports fans do the same.
Its not logic, its emotion.
In groups its seen as intelligent to predict doom and gloom and its seens as naïve to assume good.
The human race and capital markets survive the worst atrocities created by man and natural disasters. They are inevitable. ITs not intelligent, its real.
Its why we by insurance, why we take inoculations, "save for a rainy day" and lock our doors.
But we talking the same human emotions and apply it to sports and our entertainment. Its logical to assume the past will repeat itself, but in the great words of the philosopher "Screaming" A. Smith,
"I like hiring Rose, its gonna work, cuz it can't get any worse......Right???" LOL
I think that was the mantra with phil and Mills. Eventually something will work.
Donovan Mitchel on LEON ROSE
For me, understanding that you have to think with Leon coming in, who I know personally, I think things are going to trend upward,” he said. “I love Leon to death, he’s a great dude, great person, and a really good business man. So for him, I think things are going to start going in the right direction when he gets in there.”
Never heard any player say that about any president we ever had.
I honestly have not heard a single negative thing about Leon, it's been 100% all good.
He actually may have the longest tenure since (god know;s who)
knicks1248 wrote:Donovan Mitchel on LEON ROSEFor me, understanding that you have to think with Leon coming in, who I know personally, I think things are going to trend upward,” he said. “I love Leon to death, he’s a great dude, great person, and a really good business man. So for him, I think things are going to start going in the right direction when he gets in there.”
Never heard any player say that about any president we ever had.
I honestly have not heard a single negative thing about Leon, it's been 100% all good.
He actually may have the longest tenure since (god know;s who)
The sense is also that he will be methodical in his approach. He is probably gonna be opposite of Isiah Thomas. Knowing how much you disapproaved of Mills and Perry for being conservative in trades. Would you be accepting of that approach by Rose?
We need not seesaw back and forth from extremes which might stem from Dolan panic. Best of all worlds are a plan, execution and timeing based on where we are and the assets on hand when an opportunity presents itself. Easy to type this. Interesting read yesterday on how an agent knows the GM’s better than GM’s know each other.
newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Donovan Mitchel on LEON ROSEFor me, understanding that you have to think with Leon coming in, who I know personally, I think things are going to trend upward,” he said. “I love Leon to death, he’s a great dude, great person, and a really good business man. So for him, I think things are going to start going in the right direction when he gets in there.”
Never heard any player say that about any president we ever had.
I honestly have not heard a single negative thing about Leon, it's been 100% all good.
He actually may have the longest tenure since (god know;s who)
The sense is also that he will be methodical in his approach. He is probably gonna be opposite of Isiah Thomas. Knowing how much you disapproaved of Mills and Perry for being conservative in trades. Would you be accepting of that approach by Rose?
Mills and Perry Never had the reputation,connections, relationships with 30 GMs, negotiation skills, or experience to do the things that Leon has done.
They felt that because they were an all back FO with a likable coach, players would look at that has a +.
knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Donovan Mitchel on LEON ROSEFor me, understanding that you have to think with Leon coming in, who I know personally, I think things are going to trend upward,” he said. “I love Leon to death, he’s a great dude, great person, and a really good business man. So for him, I think things are going to start going in the right direction when he gets in there.”
Never heard any player say that about any president we ever had.
I honestly have not heard a single negative thing about Leon, it's been 100% all good.
He actually may have the longest tenure since (god know;s who)
The sense is also that he will be methodical in his approach. He is probably gonna be opposite of Isiah Thomas. Knowing how much you disapproaved of Mills and Perry for being conservative in trades. Would you be accepting of that approach by Rose?
Mills and Perry Never had the reputation,connections, relationships with 30 GMs, negotiation skills, or experience to do the things that Leon has done.
They felt that because they were an all back FO with a likable coach, players would look at that has a +.
So if Rose decides to take a methodical approach you would be cool with it?
newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Donovan Mitchel on LEON ROSEFor me, understanding that you have to think with Leon coming in, who I know personally, I think things are going to trend upward,” he said. “I love Leon to death, he’s a great dude, great person, and a really good business man. So for him, I think things are going to start going in the right direction when he gets in there.”
Never heard any player say that about any president we ever had.
I honestly have not heard a single negative thing about Leon, it's been 100% all good.
He actually may have the longest tenure since (god know;s who)
The sense is also that he will be methodical in his approach. He is probably gonna be opposite of Isiah Thomas. Knowing how much you disapproaved of Mills and Perry for being conservative in trades. Would you be accepting of that approach by Rose?
Mills and Perry Never had the reputation,connections, relationships with 30 GMs, negotiation skills, or experience to do the things that Leon has done.
They felt that because they were an all back FO with a likable coach, players would look at that has a +.
So if Rose decides to take a methodical approach you would be cool with it?
Being methodical to me means making calculated moves, balancing your roster, getting guys that fit, weather that's a veteran, super star, young star, young role player, old role player.
The 2 best things about rose is that he knows how to make deals and people genuinely like him. I can add 10 other attributes that will help him succeed in his role, but his resume speaks for itself.
knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Donovan Mitchel on LEON ROSEFor me, understanding that you have to think with Leon coming in, who I know personally, I think things are going to trend upward,” he said. “I love Leon to death, he’s a great dude, great person, and a really good business man. So for him, I think things are going to start going in the right direction when he gets in there.”
Never heard any player say that about any president we ever had.
I honestly have not heard a single negative thing about Leon, it's been 100% all good.
He actually may have the longest tenure since (god know;s who)
The sense is also that he will be methodical in his approach. He is probably gonna be opposite of Isiah Thomas. Knowing how much you disapproaved of Mills and Perry for being conservative in trades. Would you be accepting of that approach by Rose?
Mills and Perry Never had the reputation,connections, relationships with 30 GMs, negotiation skills, or experience to do the things that Leon has done.
They felt that because they were an all back FO with a likable coach, players would look at that has a +.
You realize the egregious offense when you say "They felt that because" as if you know? You don't know how they are perceived by the other 29 GMs. You don't know their connections, skills. Two men who are educated and risen to accomplish executive roles over a long time and you accuse them of "black privelidge" in terms that that because of their race in a league with majority of black athletes they felt entitled?
Are you even cognizant of how ignorant that comes off? Now, your entitled to your opinion, which itself can be judged but to stand that and imply THAT which you said as if you know is really some bad stuff.
fishmike wrote:it IS negative and you are basically trolling Knicks fans on a Knick fan site.So how about we see when there is something to see? So far we have a written statement. In the mean time piss off
It'd nit trolling if it's backed up with data. We fire people every two years.
The question is if organization will be allowed to change from pure entertainment to pro basketball.
It was making a ton of money as it is. Can it make more as basketball centered organization? Not obvious...
Nalod wrote:knicks1248 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:knicks1248 wrote:Donovan Mitchel on LEON ROSEFor me, understanding that you have to think with Leon coming in, who I know personally, I think things are going to trend upward,” he said. “I love Leon to death, he’s a great dude, great person, and a really good business man. So for him, I think things are going to start going in the right direction when he gets in there.”
Never heard any player say that about any president we ever had.
I honestly have not heard a single negative thing about Leon, it's been 100% all good.
He actually may have the longest tenure since (god know;s who)
The sense is also that he will be methodical in his approach. He is probably gonna be opposite of Isiah Thomas. Knowing how much you disapproaved of Mills and Perry for being conservative in trades. Would you be accepting of that approach by Rose?
Mills and Perry Never had the reputation,connections, relationships with 30 GMs, negotiation skills, or experience to do the things that Leon has done.
They felt that because they were an all back FO with a likable coach, players would look at that has a +.
You realize the egregious offense when you say "They felt that because" as if you know? You don't know how they are perceived by the other 29 GMs. You don't know their connections, skills. Two men who are educated and risen to accomplish executive roles over a long time and you accuse them of "black privelidge" in terms that that because of their race in a league with majority of black athletes they felt entitled?
Are you even cognizant of how ignorant that comes off? Now, your entitled to your opinion, which itself can be judged but to stand that and imply THAT which you said as if you know is really some bad stuff.
what are you living under a rock..damn dude do your freaking homework
https://nypost.com/2019/06/25/knicks-fee...
Knicks president Steve Mills indicated having a pioneering predominately black front office will help the team in the upcoming free agency.
“The African American front office, that doesn’t get lost on guys,” Mills said in an article published Tuesday on The Undefeated, which deals with race issues.
After getting the job when Phil Jackson got canned, Mills hired GM Scott Perry, who is black, and player developmental director Craig Robinson, the brother of Michelle Obama. Also hired after Jackson’s firing was director of player personnel Harold Ellis and college scouting director Gerald Madkins. Both are African American.
I can understand Leon will hire guys he trusts and admires. He should. If he bring on players and coaches solely on his past affiliations as reported then he will fail. It get media has to write things and linking a coach to him is a natural.
First and foremost what is the plan? Then hire based on the job description. For all we know he has someone that blows him away and he could be a retread or has yet to head coach in the NBA. Because of his lackluster history I thought Joe Torre when hired to coach Yankees was a bad idea. I was wrong obviously.
I though Don Nelson when replaced Riles was a star phuch. It was, reason is he was not suited to the roster for what he wanted to do. We exiled him for all the wrong reasons!
Typical knicks,, good idea bad execution. Knicks were poised to be high octane team. not with Ewing. Pat was cooked by 1999 and improbable run to finals gives JVG big extension. That don’t happen Grunwald hires an uptempo coach.
Issue is not intention, its the execution. Let’s hope Leon has the room to be independent from Dolan long enough to succeed. If not, Dolan will likely interfere. He did with Phil and like Nellie wanted Ewing gone for the greater good Dolan sided with this star, he did similar with KP. Timing is everything and Dolan just seems to be on wrong side of the clock.
Nalod wrote:I can understand Leon will hire guys he trusts and admires. He should. If he bring on players and coaches solely on his past affiliations as reported then he will fail. It get media has to write things and linking a coach to him is a natural. First and foremost what is the plan? Then hire based on the job description. For all we know he has someone that blows him away and he could be a retread or has yet to head coach in the NBA. Because of his lackluster history I thought Joe Torre when hired to coach Yankees was a bad idea. I was wrong obviously.
I though Don Nelson when replaced Riles was a star phuch. It was, reason is he was not suited to the roster for what he wanted to do. We exiled him for all the wrong reasons!
Typical knicks,, good idea bad execution. Knicks were poised to be high octane team. not with Ewing. Pat was cooked by 1999 and improbable run to finals gives JVG big extension. That don’t happen Grunwald hires an uptempo coach.
Issue is not intention, its the execution. Let’s hope Leon has the room to be independent from Dolan long enough to succeed. If not, Dolan will likely interfere. He did with Phil and like Nellie wanted Ewing gone for the greater good Dolan sided with this star, he did similar with KP. Timing is everything and Dolan just seems to be on wrong side of the clock.
The two names recently mentioned for the gm job were Ryan West and Bobby Webster. Both guys are young, bright guys. He certainly could follow in Phil’s shoes and get his guys paid but we won’t know until it happens.
