Just don't draft someone who can't shoot. If the BPA is a non shooter, we need to go with fit.
Knixkik wrote:Just don't draft someone who can't shoot. If the BPA is a non shooter, we need to go with fit.
I guess there is a wide definition of "can't shoot" but at a high level I'm not one for the "dont draft a guy who isn't a shooter" theory.
A lot of these guys are 19, 20 years old, 1-2 years at the college level. You have to project what they can do in 2-3 years and if they still have a high level propensity to put in the work and develop and then what it will look like.
Otherwise no one would have drafted someone like Pascal Siakam (out of college) to put next to Mitch, and yet he would be perfect.
There is no one in this draft that is NBA high-level ready to play and fit in to a starting lineup for the Knicks and instantly do well.
martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:Just don't draft someone who can't shoot. If the BPA is a non shooter, we need to go with fit.
I guess there is a wide definition of "can't shoot" but at a high level I'm not one for the "dont draft a guy who isn't a shooter" theory.
A lot of these guys are 19, 20 years old, 1-2 years at the college level. You have to project what they can do in 2-3 years and if they still have a high level propensity to put in the work and develop and then what it will look like.
Otherwise no one would have drafted someone like Pascal Siakam (out of college) to put next to Mitch, and yet he would be perfect.
There is no one in this draft that is NBA high-level ready to play and fit in to a starting lineup for the Knicks and instantly do well.
I agree, but there aren't a ton of examples of players that learn to shoot in the NBA. For every Siakam there's another 50 elfrid payton's or Dennis Smith jr's.
Knixkik wrote:martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:Just don't draft someone who can't shoot. If the BPA is a non shooter, we need to go with fit.
I guess there is a wide definition of "can't shoot" but at a high level I'm not one for the "dont draft a guy who isn't a shooter" theory.
A lot of these guys are 19, 20 years old, 1-2 years at the college level. You have to project what they can do in 2-3 years and if they still have a high level propensity to put in the work and develop and then what it will look like.
Otherwise no one would have drafted someone like Pascal Siakam (out of college) to put next to Mitch, and yet he would be perfect.
There is no one in this draft that is NBA high-level ready to play and fit in to a starting lineup for the Knicks and instantly do well.
I agree, but there aren't a ton of examples of players that learn to shoot in the NBA. For every Siakam there's another 50 elfrid payton's or Dennis Smith jr's.
? There are enough. IMHO it's literally the one skill that can be learned with practice and dedication and commitment.
As a baseline: It's how year over year guys get better at FT shooting.
If you don't have defensive instincts, you really aren't going to get better at it. If you don't have athletic ability, you won't get more explosive. If you can't move your feet, as a defensive player you won't be able to guard your guy. Everyone can dedicate time to changing their mechanics and getting better as a shooter, that's a time and patience thing IMHO.
martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:Just don't draft someone who can't shoot. If the BPA is a non shooter, we need to go with fit.
I guess there is a wide definition of "can't shoot" but at a high level I'm not one for the "dont draft a guy who isn't a shooter" theory.
A lot of these guys are 19, 20 years old, 1-2 years at the college level. You have to project what they can do in 2-3 years and if they still have a high level propensity to put in the work and develop and then what it will look like.
Otherwise no one would have drafted someone like Pascal Siakam (out of college) to put next to Mitch, and yet he would be perfect.
There is no one in this draft that is NBA high-level ready to play and fit in to a starting lineup for the Knicks and instantly do well.
I agree, but there aren't a ton of examples of players that learn to shoot in the NBA. For every Siakam there's another 50 elfrid payton's or Dennis Smith jr's.
? There are enough. IMHO it's literally the one skill that can be learned with practice and dedication and commitment.
As a baseline: It's how year over year guys get better at FT shooting.
If you don't have defensive instincts, you really aren't going to get better at it. If you don't have athletic ability, you won't get more explosive. If you can't move your feet, as a defensive player you won't be able to guard your guy. Everyone can dedicate time to changing their mechanics and getting better as a shooter, that's a time and patience thing IMHO.
Yeah i know what you're saying. But i think there's more of a natural ability to shoot than most people realize. Having a touch is something you either have or don't. These NBA guys live in the gym and very few of them go from bad shooter to good shooter. Most of the time it's just incremental improvements over an entire career.
Knixkik wrote:martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:Just don't draft someone who can't shoot. If the BPA is a non shooter, we need to go with fit.
I guess there is a wide definition of "can't shoot" but at a high level I'm not one for the "dont draft a guy who isn't a shooter" theory.
A lot of these guys are 19, 20 years old, 1-2 years at the college level. You have to project what they can do in 2-3 years and if they still have a high level propensity to put in the work and develop and then what it will look like.
Otherwise no one would have drafted someone like Pascal Siakam (out of college) to put next to Mitch, and yet he would be perfect.
There is no one in this draft that is NBA high-level ready to play and fit in to a starting lineup for the Knicks and instantly do well.
I agree, but there aren't a ton of examples of players that learn to shoot in the NBA. For every Siakam there's another 50 elfrid payton's or Dennis Smith jr's.
? There are enough. IMHO it's literally the one skill that can be learned with practice and dedication and commitment.
As a baseline: It's how year over year guys get better at FT shooting.
If you don't have defensive instincts, you really aren't going to get better at it. If you don't have athletic ability, you won't get more explosive. If you can't move your feet, as a defensive player you won't be able to guard your guy. Everyone can dedicate time to changing their mechanics and getting better as a shooter, that's a time and patience thing IMHO.
Yeah i know what you're saying. But i think there's more of a natural ability to shoot than most people realize. Having a touch is something you either have or don't. These NBA guys live in the gym and very few of them go from bad shooter to good shooter. Most of the time it's just incremental improvements over an entire career.
Wholeheartedly agree with the natural shooter theory, you either got it or you don’t. We have to value draft prospects that shoot at a high clip as priority. Talking about Nesmith / Vassell / Terry etc.
