Espn ranked the top sophomores by potential. I don’t have the link but the consensus top 5 was Luka, Trae, Jackson Jr, SGA, and Ayton. Robinson was 6th on one list and 7th (Behind Devonte Graham) in the other. I think this will be one Of the best drafts in recent memory. The top 5 are allstar locks in their careers (2 already are.). Robinson being next on that list is a big compliment. Do you see Mitch as an allstar in his prime ? Or just a quality role player ?
Knixkik wrote:Espn ranked the top sophomores by potential. I don’t have the link but the consensus top 5 was Luka, Trae, Jackson Jr, SGA, and Ayton. Robinson was 6th on one list and 7th (Behind Devonte Graham) in the other. I think this will be one Of the best drafts in recent memory. The top 5 are allstar locks in their careers (2 already are.). Robinson being next on that list is a big compliment. Do you see Mitch as an allstar in his prime ? Or just a quality role player ?
Definite all star in about 5 years
It all depends if he learns to stay on the court. If he does, then definitely. If not, then he’ll just remain that player with a lot of potential. Next season is an important year for him, Frank and Knox. Frank is kind of a veteran now!
JJJ strikes me as a bit of Tim Thomas sort of player - big, athletic 6'11", looks like he's doing things on the court but struggles to average 5rpg. Alas, he's also still only 20 and can get better, but come on, this guy plays center. :D
technomaster wrote:JJJ strikes me as a bit of Tim Thomas sort of player - big, athletic 6'11", looks like he's doing things on the court but struggles to average 5rpg. Alas, he's also still only 20 and can get better, but come on, this guy plays center. :D
5 boards a game for JJJ isn’t going to cut it for a legitimate starting Center in this league. But feel sure this is an area of his game that will develop over time.
Frankie it’s on you next year. Make or break gotta see more on the offensive end. Mitch & RJ are the only players we got right now that resemble building blocks. I see Mitch as an all star in his prime and a couple all denfensive teams.
Ideally want Payton / DSJ / Portis packaged and gone.
I can see it happening.It all depends on continued growth. What he's good at he is very good at. Needs to round out his game some more.
Having said that, I could care less if he gets the all star nod. There are a lot of things he's good at that lead to wins (e.g., defense) that are devalued in AS nods. I'd rather have the wins
Nalod wrote:Portis a FA
So the Knicks have several guys that have an option for their next year, Portis being one of them. During and around draft, Knicks can trade a guy like Portis in a package for a player with a guaranteed contract for next year and then the other team can opt out of Portis's contract for like $1M to save cap space.
He is going to head the list of the most overpaid players in the league if he doesn't get his jumpshot game ready. If he could hit the corner three he would be an all star. Right now he needs to add a lot of wrinkles to his game IMO. He is very good at what he does but the game has changed
SupremeCommander wrote:He is going to head the list of the most overpaid players in the league if he doesn't get his jumpshot game ready. If he could hit the corner three he would be an all star. Right now he needs to add a lot of wrinkles to his game IMO. He is very good at what he does but the game has changed
for a guy that hasn't taken more than 3 jump shots in 2 season, it's hard to imagine that changing anytime soon. That sht didn't work with Deandre Jordan with the clips or the Nets, it hasn't worked with Gobert.
Granted those teams were decent, but never more than a 1st or 2nd rnd boot, and if all he's out there to do is block shots, he will foul out more times than not.
Once teams started defended the Pnr better and blocking his roll to the basket, he was not much of a factor.
He has to be on the floor with 4 knock down shooters (especially the PF position)
SupremeCommander wrote:He is going to head the list of the most overpaid players in the league if he doesn't get his jumpshot game ready. If he could hit the corner three he would be an all star. Right now he needs to add a lot of wrinkles to his game IMO. He is very good at what he does but the game has changed
we talking about Mitchell Robinson?
Head the list of most overpaid players? How?
He needs to add a lot of wrinkles to his game?
How about we get a PG that can attack the basket, that can distribute the ball, set up players.
Then, if Mitchell can hit the 10-15ft in game with confidence, and he should be able to, he'll probably end up putting up 18-22 points a game VERY EFFICIENTLY. And if the game has passed 7 footers that can hit 70% because they dunk and they're coordinated with good hands, I'll take them all.
Could end up a stopper and rebounder, in the Rodman/Wallace mold. Not much of an offense, but game changing rebounding, and defense.
With the pandemic keeping players from regular competiton, might be tougher for Mitch to develop a reliable offense, in the near future. The role he plays right now is impactful enough, that its not a major issue, if Mitch doesnt become as good on offense, as on D.
Just want Mitch to drain a midrange jumper once in a while, to keep the D honest.
Knixkik wrote: Do you see Mitch as an allstar in his prime ? Or just a quality role player ?
Potential DPOY candidate in the future. Don't think he will be an All Star unless he's an injury replacement. I don't think it would take too much to be the 2nd best rim protector in the game with a lot of hard work.
He needs a lot of skill work ( footwork, handle, court vision, long range shooting, free throw shooting, etc)
The positive is he's a naturally intuitive player around the rim. He's productive even when his fundamentals could use more work. Some things will get better with time ( better calls from refs, better understanding of his competition by seeing them more and more, his body will fill out a little more) I don't know if the shooting will get better. At minimum, his free throw shooting needs work. He's a late game liability otherwise.
He can flat out fly across the court. That sticks out immediately.
OK so coaching a player like this, in any sport really, you want to focus on the 2 or 3 things that will create the most exponential impact in his game. You can't have a guy work on everything all at once all the time. Some parts of your game, you have to let go because of diminishing returns for the time/blood spent. I would say he immediately needs to hone down on his footwork. Because many of the other issues in his game will shift with improved footwork. Working on his free throw shooting would also help him at different levels of the game. His usage really needs to be metered for longevity. Big man health is just a really different animal at the NBA level.
His bread and butter will be defense and there's no reason, with relentless work and blood spilled, why he can't be a DPOY contender year in and year out in the future.
