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martin wrote:smackeddog wrote:Part of me is morbidly curious to know what would have happened if we had signed Mark Jackson as coach- some of the GS stuff was just bizarre!The Warriors in the last six weeks demoted one assistant and fired another, and ESPN.com's Chris Broussard today reported that the team fired Darren Erman after learning Erman had recorded at least one coaches' meeting. Multiple league sources confirmed the gist of Broussard's report, and that Erman was concerned Mark Jackson and other coaches loyal to Jackson were insulting Erman to other players behind Erman's back.The team had no choice but to fire Erman. However, the front office is fond of Erman and was upset at having to let him go, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter. The Erman firing and demotion of Brian Scalabrine have raised tensions throughout the Warriors' organization.
Jackson made a show of firing Scalabrine in front of players and other coaches, but he had no real grounds, and the front office made Jackson find a compromise, per a source familiar with the matter: demoting Scalabrine to the D-League. In addition, Jackson has asked that Jerry West, a high-level adviser in Golden State, not attend most practices and team activities, sources say.
The tension with Erman got weird. Midseason, the team moved Erman's parking spot to a less convenient place, likely at the behest of Jackson or one of Jackson's allies on the staff, per multiple sources familiar with the matter. They began changing his duties in strange ways. ... The atmosphere has bordered on poisonous."
It's impossible to imagine all this drama was happening within the Warriors and it was somehow everyone else's fault. Jackson was in the middle of it all. He clashed with certain players (hello, Andrew Bogut), assistant coaches, certain members of the front office, management, even beloved former Warriors TV analyst Jim Barnett didn't hold his tongue when reflecting on Jackson's Golden State tenure.So manipulative was Jackson that he reportedly accused former big man Festus Ezeli of cheering against the team while he was sitting out with a knee injury in hopes that his absence would prove his value. Ezeli was reportedly so hurt by the accusation that he broke into tears while denying the claim to his teammates.
"[Jackson] couldn't get along with anybody else in the organization," Warriors owner Joe Lacob said shortly after Jackson's firing. "And look, he did a great job, and I'll always compliment him in many respects, but you can't have 200 people in the organization not like you."
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/as-ma...
The secret recording reminded me of that episode of Seinfeld when George leaves the tape recorder in his suitcase to find out what they're saying about himThere is a reason he doesn't get first round interviews
I've posted this before, read the whole thread:
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Yikes! I always find it fascinating how people just let that kind of behaviour just carry on unchecked- If I did any one of those things I’m sure my colleagues would have said “smackeddog, WTF?!?!”
smackeddog wrote:Part of me is morbidly curious to know what would have happened if we had signed Mark Jackson as coach- some of the GS stuff was just bizarre!The Warriors in the last six weeks demoted one assistant and fired another, and ESPN.com's Chris Broussard today reported that the team fired Darren Erman after learning Erman had recorded at least one coaches' meeting. Multiple league sources confirmed the gist of Broussard's report, and that Erman was concerned Mark Jackson and other coaches loyal to Jackson were insulting Erman to other players behind Erman's back.The team had no choice but to fire Erman. However, the front office is fond of Erman and was upset at having to let him go, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter. The Erman firing and demotion of Brian Scalabrine have raised tensions throughout the Warriors' organization.
Jackson made a show of firing Scalabrine in front of players and other coaches, but he had no real grounds, and the front office made Jackson find a compromise, per a source familiar with the matter: demoting Scalabrine to the D-League. In addition, Jackson has asked that Jerry West, a high-level adviser in Golden State, not attend most practices and team activities, sources say.
The tension with Erman got weird. Midseason, the team moved Erman's parking spot to a less convenient place, likely at the behest of Jackson or one of Jackson's allies on the staff, per multiple sources familiar with the matter. They began changing his duties in strange ways. ... The atmosphere has bordered on poisonous."
It's impossible to imagine all this drama was happening within the Warriors and it was somehow everyone else's fault. Jackson was in the middle of it all. He clashed with certain players (hello, Andrew Bogut), assistant coaches, certain members of the front office, management, even beloved former Warriors TV analyst Jim Barnett didn't hold his tongue when reflecting on Jackson's Golden State tenure.So manipulative was Jackson that he reportedly accused former big man Festus Ezeli of cheering against the team while he was sitting out with a knee injury in hopes that his absence would prove his value. Ezeli was reportedly so hurt by the accusation that he broke into tears while denying the claim to his teammates.
"[Jackson] couldn't get along with anybody else in the organization," Warriors owner Joe Lacob said shortly after Jackson's firing. "And look, he did a great job, and I'll always compliment him in many respects, but you can't have 200 people in the organization not like you."
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/as-ma...
The secret recording reminded me of that episode of Seinfeld when George leaves the tape recorder in his suitcase to find out what they're saying about him
And yet there's a contingent on this board who wanted him. what an immature shit show
BRIGGS wrote:Asinine living in the past move.Hi Briggy
Forget the draft and begin thinking about 2-3 vets who wi have no chance to last 82 games.
Leon Rose is a front man for the person who has killed the franchise and unfortunately the fans. R James Dolan. Napoleon lives
fishmike wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Asinine living in the past move.Hi Briggy
Forget the draft and begin thinking about 2-3 vets who wi have no chance to last 82 games.
Leon Rose is a front man for the person who has killed the franchise and unfortunately the fans. R James Dolan. Napoleon lives
Not quite ready to declare our over .500 Brigg’s “waterloo” but when we looked at the schedule and injuries 1-9 was a perspective to respect.
We start the season with bad vibes from Mitch, spin over TO’s and anxiety that nothing improved.
WE see Spinovers and roll our eyes. ITs instinct and given our history understandable. Thibs was trying to get that move refined as we now can see its a tool for Randle t pass out of doubles.
I see RJ keep doing the same thing. Some label it one thing, we should just think of it as a work in progress and failure is part of the process to improve.
I Think Knox, Frank and Denis are still part of the process but for two of them time is running out given the contract. Its ok they go off and succeed elsewhere as long as our roster improves regardless.
This is how we got Randle. Other teams wanted his cap space and had other plans.
Looking forward to getting OBI back on the court to give Randle some breathing room but with more respect for our coaching.