Knicks · dolan reminds me of trump (page 1)

Cartman718 @ 9/27/2020 2:11 AM
seriously...?
smackeddog @ 9/27/2020 3:59 AM
He’s a trump supporter isn’t he? Gave him big bucks in his first presidential run. Both are big narcissistic babies, who grew up as spoilt brats, as this latest thing demonstrates.
Nalod @ 9/27/2020 12:46 PM
While all true, there is a faction in NY that wants to do away with the tax abatement that MSG enjoys. Thats a potential game changer and MSG owners have threatened to take teams to Jersey in the past. NYC made a bad decision to knock down the old Penn Station. NYC has a bad history of removing old buildings for new. The Met life building is a disaster to that neighborhood!
That Max Rose uses his platform to utter that he should sell the team is a bit unsavory. That Dolan is a petty man like trump is true. Putting aside my political emotions I can see Dolan reasoning and while not says I agree with is vindictive response......”I UNDERSTAND”.
Cartman718 @ 9/27/2020 1:10 PM
Nalod wrote:While all true, there is a faction in NY that wants to do away with the tax abatement that MSG enjoys. Thats a potential game changer and MSG owners have threatened to take teams to Jersey in the past. NYC made a bad decision to knock down the old Penn Station. NYC has a bad history of removing old buildings for new. The Met life building is a disaster to that neighborhood!
That Max Rose uses his platform to utter that he should sell the team is a bit unsavory. That Dolan is a petty man like trump is true. Putting aside my political emotions I can see Dolan reasoning and while not says I agree with is vindictive response......”I UNDERSTAND”.

nothing to understand except that he's petty. you're a billionaire worried about a local politician's comments...going back and forth with fans in MSG...I mean it's just the same thing as i will break all unspoken rules of conduct unless its a law. classic trump behavior.

fwk00 @ 9/28/2020 1:33 AM
Cartman718 wrote:
Nalod wrote:While all true, there is a faction in NY that wants to do away with the tax abatement that MSG enjoys. Thats a potential game changer and MSG owners have threatened to take teams to Jersey in the past. NYC made a bad decision to knock down the old Penn Station. NYC has a bad history of removing old buildings for new. The Met life building is a disaster to that neighborhood!
That Max Rose uses his platform to utter that he should sell the team is a bit unsavory. That Dolan is a petty man like trump is true. Putting aside my political emotions I can see Dolan reasoning and while not says I agree with is vindictive response......”I UNDERSTAND”.

nothing to understand except that he's petty. you're a billionaire worried about a local politician's comments...going back and forth with fans in MSG...I mean it's just the same thing as i will break all unspoken rules of conduct unless its a law. classic trump behavior.

Sorry, it's not petty. Dolan is not some crooked NY politician's Pinata. Payback is a bitch.

And Dolan sitting in the stands like every other fan should enjoy the same personal respect. He's not there to represent the Complaint Dept. Would you want someone approaching you at an entertainment venue to discuss a work related issue?

It could be worse and with our luck it would be. Stop ragging on Dolan - its pointless.

BRIGGS @ 9/28/2020 11:51 AM
fwk00 wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
Nalod wrote:While all true, there is a faction in NY that wants to do away with the tax abatement that MSG enjoys. Thats a potential game changer and MSG owners have threatened to take teams to Jersey in the past. NYC made a bad decision to knock down the old Penn Station. NYC has a bad history of removing old buildings for new. The Met life building is a disaster to that neighborhood!
That Max Rose uses his platform to utter that he should sell the team is a bit unsavory. That Dolan is a petty man like trump is true. Putting aside my political emotions I can see Dolan reasoning and while not says I agree with is vindictive response......”I UNDERSTAND”.

nothing to understand except that he's petty. you're a billionaire worried about a local politician's comments...going back and forth with fans in MSG...I mean it's just the same thing as i will break all unspoken rules of conduct unless its a law. classic trump behavior.

Sorry, it's not petty. Dolan is not some crooked NY politician's Pinata. Payback is a bitch.

And Dolan sitting in the stands like every other fan should enjoy the same personal respect. He's not there to represent the Complaint Dept. Would you want someone approaching you at an entertainment venue to discuss a work related issue?

It could be worse and with our luck it would be. Stop ragging on Dolan - its pointless.

Gtfo. I could care less about politics. But the last time I checked fans PAY to sit in the stands and DolanCOLLECTS the money???????????

Now who is ultimately responsible for the shtty product of the last 20 that’s two decades of shtty basketball— and made a bundle doing it? Dolan— WTF are you seriously talking about? What fan in their right mind would ever stick up for FAN Dolan? He deserves being barked at by fans for stealing their money!

DJMUSIC @ 9/28/2020 12:12 PM
Cartman718 wrote:seriously...?


Owner Big chief Dolan wrote $125K check to prez Mr. Trump!


https://www.nj.com/politics/2017/10/afte...

DJMUSIC @ 9/28/2020 12:13 PM
Max Rose is correct

DJMUSIC wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:seriously...?


Owner Big chief Dolan wrote $125K check to prez Mr. Trump!


https://www.nj.com/politics/2017/10/afte...

martin @ 9/28/2020 12:58 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Gtfo. I could care less about politics.

Your impassioned throat knobbing posts declaring your love of Trump suggests otherwise

fwk00 @ 9/28/2020 1:00 PM
What's so disgraceful about Dolan?

Or different from any other owner?

He's not a politician. WTF is this Max character running on in NYC? Basketball? Has he been paying attention to the streets at all?

Vote this idiot out. Everybody should be sending checks to the challenger.

Nalod @ 9/28/2020 1:37 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
fwk00 wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
Nalod wrote:While all true, there is a faction in NY that wants to do away with the tax abatement that MSG enjoys. Thats a potential game changer and MSG owners have threatened to take teams to Jersey in the past. NYC made a bad decision to knock down the old Penn Station. NYC has a bad history of removing old buildings for new. The Met life building is a disaster to that neighborhood!
That Max Rose uses his platform to utter that he should sell the team is a bit unsavory. That Dolan is a petty man like trump is true. Putting aside my political emotions I can see Dolan reasoning and while not says I agree with is vindictive response......”I UNDERSTAND”.

nothing to understand except that he's petty. you're a billionaire worried about a local politician's comments...going back and forth with fans in MSG...I mean it's just the same thing as i will break all unspoken rules of conduct unless its a law. classic trump behavior.

Sorry, it's not petty. Dolan is not some crooked NY politician's Pinata. Payback is a bitch.

And Dolan sitting in the stands like every other fan should enjoy the same personal respect. He's not there to represent the Complaint Dept. Would you want someone approaching you at an entertainment venue to discuss a work related issue?

It could be worse and with our luck it would be. Stop ragging on Dolan - its pointless.

Gtfo. I could care less about politics. But the last time I checked fans PAY to sit in the stands and DolanCOLLECTS the money???????????

Now who is ultimately responsible for the shtty product of the last 20 that’s two decades of shtty basketball— and made a bundle doing it? Dolan— WTF are you seriously talking about? What fan in their right mind would ever stick up for FAN Dolan? He deserves being barked at by fans for stealing their money!

I don’t know the political preference of most here. But you left quite an impression with me 4 years ago. Why? Your hard support for Trump. At the same time. You divulged your wife was a nurse and you had a daughter in college. Nalod has a daughter and thought often about the kind of predator Trump was. Tilt to Bill Clinton is the common response by trump supporters and I am equally as repulsed. Bill was voted in already. With Trump we were given a choice. His response to covid is self serving to his preservation and not to the countless front line medical professionals who were needed to protect. If the hospitals got over run the system collapses. That it didn’t is a testament to them And common sense.

If we were buds in person I’d ask you if you still thought these things or changed your mind. You and I have been here a long time. While I don’t always agree with you I find you insights contributory efforts honest. I have no reason to question if your a good dad or a good husband.
I hope your wife is safe and your daughter as well. Nothing is more sacred.

BigDaddyG @ 9/28/2020 1:43 PM
fwk00 wrote:What's so disgraceful about Dolan?

Or different from any other owner?

He's not a politician. WTF is this Max character running on in NYC? Basketball? Has he been paying attention to the streets at all?

Vote this idiot out. Everybody should be sending checks to the challenger.


The pettiness he showed is embarrassing and his reasoning is off. He's mad about a supposedly politicizing the team, so he decides to get revenge by further politicizing the team. Also, Dolan's ineptitude over the years cuts across party lines. Rose was just making an observation. The Knicks would be better off if Dolan sold the team.
GustavBahler @ 9/28/2020 1:46 PM
No fan of Dolan. Who he STILL supports, makes me like him even less.

In all fairness. For all the callous things Dolan has done over the years. In some instances, he's been generous and thoughtful to players, relative strangers, going through hard times. Gestures I could never see Trump making.

BRIGGS @ 9/28/2020 2:00 PM
Nalod wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
fwk00 wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
Nalod wrote:While all true, there is a faction in NY that wants to do away with the tax abatement that MSG enjoys. Thats a potential game changer and MSG owners have threatened to take teams to Jersey in the past. NYC made a bad decision to knock down the old Penn Station. NYC has a bad history of removing old buildings for new. The Met life building is a disaster to that neighborhood!
That Max Rose uses his platform to utter that he should sell the team is a bit unsavory. That Dolan is a petty man like trump is true. Putting aside my political emotions I can see Dolan reasoning and while not says I agree with is vindictive response......”I UNDERSTAND”.

nothing to understand except that he's petty. you're a billionaire worried about a local politician's comments...going back and forth with fans in MSG...I mean it's just the same thing as i will break all unspoken rules of conduct unless its a law. classic trump behavior.

Sorry, it's not petty. Dolan is not some crooked NY politician's Pinata. Payback is a bitch.

And Dolan sitting in the stands like every other fan should enjoy the same personal respect. He's not there to represent the Complaint Dept. Would you want someone approaching you at an entertainment venue to discuss a work related issue?

It could be worse and with our luck it would be. Stop ragging on Dolan - its pointless.

Gtfo. I could care less about politics. But the last time I checked fans PAY to sit in the stands and DolanCOLLECTS the money???????????

Now who is ultimately responsible for the shtty product of the last 20 that’s two decades of shtty basketball— and made a bundle doing it? Dolan— WTF are you seriously talking about? What fan in their right mind would ever stick up for FAN Dolan? He deserves being barked at by fans for stealing their money!

I don’t know the political preference of most here. But you left quite an impression with me 4 years ago. Why? Your hard support for Trump. At the same time. You divulged your wife was a nurse and you had a daughter in college. Nalod has a daughter and thought often about the kind of predator Trump was. Tilt to Bill Clinton is the common response by trump supporters and I am equally as repulsed. Bill was voted in already. With Trump we were given a choice. His response to covid is self serving to his preservation and not to the countless front line medical professionals who were needed to protect. If the hospitals got over run the system collapses. That it didn’t is a testament to them And common sense.

If we were buds in person I’d ask you if you still thought these things or changed your mind. You and I have been here a long time. While I don’t always agree with you I find you insights contributory efforts honest. I have no reason to question if your a good dad or a good husband.
I hope your wife is safe and your daughter as well. Nothing is more sacred.

Nolad. Of course you’re my friend and there’s no doubt you’re a decent dude in real life. I’m not really into politics— I think a lot of people became to obsessed with it the last 5 years. I used to think politics was the most boring subject— now it’s just an annoying subject. My view 4 years later is my view before 5 years ago— I’m no longer interested. I’m not taking the time to vote for anyone. My focus is on family friends and health. I have my opinions—- sometimes I’ll let them be known but that’s it. I’m not into all of this side taking and belligerence. I like watching jay Leno’s garage or Seinfeld. Lately I watch the price is right in the am.

Nalod @ 9/28/2020 2:04 PM
Politicians have to make measured responses and timing is everything.
If Nalod makes a public statement about Dolan nobody cares. I’m not a public figure nor a NYC representative.
I would likely vote for Rose if I lived in his district. I think he should not have gone on record as saying a non public enterprise should change its ownership structure unless there is fraud costing taxpayers money or it endangers their health.
Dolan and his shareholders are free to be ruinous .

Dolan responses was petty and he risks alienating fans. He did so when he supported Isiah Thomas AFTER Anucha’s day in court. despite that the teams still climes up the value scale and the teams gains in value.
We all want new coaches, players, management when losing so why not new owner. ITs open concept that new will be better. show me an ownership structure with self made successful alpha leadership with proper funding that demonstrates few financial constraints in pursuit of “winning” and I’m down with that. Until then I root for the team to succeed and Dolan stays in his miserable world and keeps us out.

BRIGGS @ 9/28/2020 2:08 PM
fwk00 wrote:What's so disgraceful about Dolan?

Or different from any other owner?

He's not a politician. WTF is this Max character running on in NYC? Basketball? Has he been paying attention to the streets at all?

Vote this idiot out. Everybody should be sending checks to the challenger.

I don’t care about the personal Dolan— nor do I care what he does. But he’s an obnoxious hypocrite with the Knicks. He takes the money from the fans— like the players the owner is culpable. Pat Riley was a man who owned the boos. Dolan is just an awful owner who revels in his position — does he give even one sht about the fans— we both k ow darn well NO!!!!! He sits near the players - what right does he have not to get booed or take criticism? The whole point this politician makes is futile if Dolan doesn’t sck as an owner of a team? Forget the 50 k. Make the F Knicks better!

wargames @ 9/28/2020 3:45 PM
They are similar but give Dolan credit he didn’t waste/lose his family fortune multiple times......
fwk00 @ 9/28/2020 3:59 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
fwk00 wrote:What's so disgraceful about Dolan?

Or different from any other owner?

He's not a politician. WTF is this Max character running on in NYC? Basketball? Has he been paying attention to the streets at all?

Vote this idiot out. Everybody should be sending checks to the challenger.

I don’t care about the personal Dolan— nor do I care what he does. But he’s an obnoxious hypocrite with the Knicks. He takes the money from the fans— like the players the owner is culpable. Pat Riley was a man who owned the boos. Dolan is just an awful owner who revels in his position — does he give even one sht about the fans— we both k ow darn well NO!!!!! He sits near the players - what right does he have not to get booed or take criticism? The whole point this politician makes is futile if Dolan doesn’t sck as an owner of a team? Forget the 50 k. Make the F Knicks better!

We have all seen Dolan take money from fans and pour it into the team. For years Dolan paid so much luxury tax that he carried other teams.

We've seen him pay many FO and coaches off to go away. Huge expenses.

He's paid dozens of over-hyped players family fortunes only to have them sh@t the MSG bed.

Compare a sleaze like Ballmer to Dolan. Get a Snickers bar for the Clippers. They aren't winning anything soon.

I'm no Dolan fan but what a waste of time blaming Dolan. Watch him squirm at the Garden games - you think he's happy losing? Please.

BigDaddyG @ 9/28/2020 4:43 PM
fwk00 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
fwk00 wrote:What's so disgraceful about Dolan?

Or different from any other owner?

He's not a politician. WTF is this Max character running on in NYC? Basketball? Has he been paying attention to the streets at all?

Vote this idiot out. Everybody should be sending checks to the challenger.

I don’t care about the personal Dolan— nor do I care what he does. But he’s an obnoxious hypocrite with the Knicks. He takes the money from the fans— like the players the owner is culpable. Pat Riley was a man who owned the boos. Dolan is just an awful owner who revels in his position — does he give even one sht about the fans— we both k ow darn well NO!!!!! He sits near the players - what right does he have not to get booed or take criticism? The whole point this politician makes is futile if Dolan doesn’t sck as an owner of a team? Forget the 50 k. Make the F Knicks better!

We have all seen Dolan take money from fans and pour it into the team. For years Dolan paid so much luxury tax that he carried other teams.

We've seen him pay many FO and coaches off to go away. Huge expenses.

He's paid dozens of over-hyped players family fortunes only to have them sh@t the MSG bed.

Compare a sleaze like Ballmer to Dolan. Get a Snickers bar for the Clippers. They aren't winning anything soon.

I'm no Dolan fan but what a waste of time blaming Dolan. Watch him squirm at the Garden games - you think he's happy losing? Please.

Well, at least Dolan does pay his taxes. More than you can say about Trump.

Allanfan20 @ 9/29/2020 8:45 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
fwk00 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
fwk00 wrote:What's so disgraceful about Dolan?

Or different from any other owner?

He's not a politician. WTF is this Max character running on in NYC? Basketball? Has he been paying attention to the streets at all?

Vote this idiot out. Everybody should be sending checks to the challenger.

I don’t care about the personal Dolan— nor do I care what he does. But he’s an obnoxious hypocrite with the Knicks. He takes the money from the fans— like the players the owner is culpable. Pat Riley was a man who owned the boos. Dolan is just an awful owner who revels in his position — does he give even one sht about the fans— we both k ow darn well NO!!!!! He sits near the players - what right does he have not to get booed or take criticism? The whole point this politician makes is futile if Dolan doesn’t sck as an owner of a team? Forget the 50 k. Make the F Knicks better!

We have all seen Dolan take money from fans and pour it into the team. For years Dolan paid so much luxury tax that he carried other teams.

We've seen him pay many FO and coaches off to go away. Huge expenses.

He's paid dozens of over-hyped players family fortunes only to have them sh@t the MSG bed.

Compare a sleaze like Ballmer to Dolan. Get a Snickers bar for the Clippers. They aren't winning anything soon.

I'm no Dolan fan but what a waste of time blaming Dolan. Watch him squirm at the Garden games - you think he's happy losing? Please.

Well, at least Dolan does pay his taxes. More than you can say about Trump.

You know that?

BigDaddyG @ 9/29/2020 11:34 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
fwk00 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
fwk00 wrote:What's so disgraceful about Dolan?

Or different from any other owner?

He's not a politician. WTF is this Max character running on in NYC? Basketball? Has he been paying attention to the streets at all?

Vote this idiot out. Everybody should be sending checks to the challenger.

I don’t care about the personal Dolan— nor do I care what he does. But he’s an obnoxious hypocrite with the Knicks. He takes the money from the fans— like the players the owner is culpable. Pat Riley was a man who owned the boos. Dolan is just an awful owner who revels in his position — does he give even one sht about the fans— we both k ow darn well NO!!!!! He sits near the players - what right does he have not to get booed or take criticism? The whole point this politician makes is futile if Dolan doesn’t sck as an owner of a team? Forget the 50 k. Make the F Knicks better!

We have all seen Dolan take money from fans and pour it into the team. For years Dolan paid so much luxury tax that he carried other teams.

We've seen him pay many FO and coaches off to go away. Huge expenses.

He's paid dozens of over-hyped players family fortunes only to have them sh@t the MSG bed.

Compare a sleaze like Ballmer to Dolan. Get a Snickers bar for the Clippers. They aren't winning anything soon.

I'm no Dolan fan but what a waste of time blaming Dolan. Watch him squirm at the Garden games - you think he's happy losing? Please.

Well, at least Dolan does pay his taxes. More than you can say about Trump.

You know that?


I just know about the luxury tax, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Dolan has paid more than $150 in income taxes over the past 20 years.
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