At 28 years old, a guy that can stretch the floor, has been a winner in Europe and has the ability to facilitate and get to the rim at $18MM a year seems like a tremendous miss for the Knicks franchise. Giannis loves him, the Lakers, Hawks wanted him. Why not take a flyer at a very reasonable price.
We just watched the following:
Gallanari $20MM
Hayward $30MM
Beasley $15MM
Clarkson $13MM
Danny Green $15MM
That’s not really an overpay to get a guy in here that can pass and shoot and is also tough. It gives RJ floor spacing and could have used him with Toppin and Mitch forming an exciting younger core.
He could have also been used in a bigger trade down the road if a start becomes available. Would have much rather seen him playing 35 minutes a night vs. Burks, Rivers, etc.
More importantly not wasting any assets to get him...
MS wrote:At 28 years old, a guy that can stretch the floor, has been a winner in Europe and has the ability to facilitate and get to the rim at $18MM a year seems like a tremendous miss for the Knicks franchise. Giannis loves him, the Lakers, Hawks wanted him. Why not take a flyer at a very reasonable price.We just watched the following:
Gallanari $20MM
Hayward $30MM
Beasley $15MM
Clarkson $13MM
Danny Green $15MM
That’s not really an overpay to get a guy in here that can pass and shoot and is also tough. It gives RJ floor spacing and could have used him with Toppin and Mitch forming an exciting younger core.
He could have also been used in a bigger trade down the road if a start becomes available. Would have much rather seen him playing 35 minutes a night vs. Burks, Rivers, etc.
More importantly not wasting any assets to get him...
No, because he didn't want to come here. He was willing to take less to play with Giannis.
I would have liked Langston Galloway.
Instead, we were after Gordon Hayward?
And we lost Moe Harkless who is the kind of glue player like Danny Green.
He signed in ATL, I’m willing to bet we would have accepted the offer if we gave it to him.
MS wrote:He signed in ATL, I’m willing to bet we would have accepted the offer if we gave it to him.
Have you seen Atlanta's roster?
Kevin Knox will be a better player. That might be the belief.
MS wrote:He signed in ATL, I’m willing to bet we would have accepted the offer if we gave it to him.
ALT is flat out a better team and will mostly likely make the playoffs. They got an all star. They got young players. They got Gallo to come off the bench. They have a lot more team than the Knicks.
Also, he really doesn't fit the timeline of the young crew the Knicks got going on
We set a price for Haywood and cLT, perhaps Indy exceeded it.
franco12 wrote:martin wrote:MS wrote:He signed in ATL, I’m willing to bet we would have accepted the offer if we gave it to him.
ALT is flat out a better team and will mostly likely make the playoffs. They got an all star. They got young players. They got Gallo to come off the bench. They have a lot more team than the Knicks.
Also, he really doesn't fit the timeline of the young crew the Knicks got going on
And Gordon Hayward does?
I don’t think you get Hayward by himself. There would be another move if that were the case.
If the goal of the offseason was to sign 3 50-100 ranked players, we probably didn’t succeed. If it was to get some value contracts for another developmental year, we did very well.
The roster “feels” incomplete though. Not sure there are many players out there that would solve this.
franco12 wrote:martin wrote:MS wrote:He signed in ATL, I’m willing to bet we would have accepted the offer if we gave it to him.
ALT is flat out a better team and will mostly likely make the playoffs. They got an all star. They got young players. They got Gallo to come off the bench. They have a lot more team than the Knicks.
Also, he really doesn't fit the timeline of the young crew the Knicks got going on
And Gordon Hayward does?
Each situation is unique, apples to oranges, don't know why you would think otherwise.
Patience people. The plan is coming together. We will finally have lottery luck next year, we will get a top-3 pick, we will have $40 million in cap space again, and RJ, Mitch, and Toppin will show that the Knicks have talent. Free agents will start to come next year. Thibbs just needs to get these young guys playing at a high level.
It's fine if both Toppin and Quickley both have their shooting translate to the NBA. You can have 2 bigtime shooters in the line-up and then just need to address the PG position long-term (assuming Quickley is viewed more as a SG.) The hope is Toppin can become a 20+ ppg player and make 2 threes per game on 38-40% after a couple of season. Quickley i'm hoping is a 12-13 ppg player that can make 3 threes per game on 40-42% after a couple of years. If these guys turn into players than shooting in the line-up should not be an issue.
