Knicks · Can we cut Elfrid Payton? (page 2)

knicks1248 wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Philc1 wrote:
Thread Topic: Can we play Frank please!

I can't take not watching Frank. It's torture.

Fixed.
Guys are getting better with the stealth Frank threads.

However, starting to agree.

The problem is Peyton can't shoot and almost will always turndown at least 5 wide open 3's per game, he doesn't push the pace, and doesn't solve the spacing problem, and if your not going to shoot 3's at least be 55% from everywhere else.

Frank doesn't solve any of our problems at pg, this is the 5th coach that told you this.

What happen to Harper, is he just a practice squad signing

For me, nothing has changed. At least not day to day like some. Payton is still getting to the basket at a high rate and is the best PG we have. Unfortunately. He has had good games and some bad. Our biggest problem is not Payton its our 3pt shooting. As we saw when Burks, Bullock, RJ and Quick were hitting their three's, no one was complaining about Payton. He actually flourished because of it. Frank does not change that. He would be turning down more looks form three and driving and scoring a lot less than Payton. If we are going to knee jerk guys to be benched, it should be the ones that were EXPECTED to be able to hit 3's.

As for Harper. Why do fans always point to the 15th guy? Like they are not getting a chance in practices? Why would a coach let a guy get minutes over guys he is not outplaying in practice? Just because fans think they should? Harper is obviously not as good as Payton or Quicks. Remember Baker getting $2 million just cuz fans thought he deserved it.

This whole rocking ship will shift as soon as we get Burks back and he hopefully continues his good shooting. As we saw during the winning streak, good shooting is contagious. Just like bad shooting has been during the losing streak.

Jeremy Lin?

martin wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

franco12 wrote:I thin Emmanuel Mudiay is still available.

Payton has had some nice games and spurts of play. As a starter, he is exposed for what he is- a third string pg.

I don’t understand what Thibs is doing with his tight rotation. We’re losing with Payton we can lose with Frank or DSjr.

Help?

jimmer fredette Is available and I’d take him over Payton at this point .

Starbles could come out of retirement. And he could assistant coach at the same time. The new 21st century Herb!

What's Ron Baker doing?

Toure' Murry says hello

Is he hanging out with Moochie Norris or Mindaugas? Heard they can kill it.

HofstraBBall wrote:

martin wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

franco12 wrote:I thin Emmanuel Mudiay is still available.

Payton has had some nice games and spurts of play. As a starter, he is exposed for what he is- a third string pg.

I don’t understand what Thibs is doing with his tight rotation. We’re losing with Payton we can lose with Frank or DSjr.

Help?

jimmer fredette Is available and I’d take him over Payton at this point .

Starbles could come out of retirement. And he could assistant coach at the same time. The new 21st century Herb!

What's Ron Baker doing?

Toure' Murry says hello

Is he hanging out with Moochie Norris or Mindaugas? Heard they can kill it.

Nah...I think he hangs out with Alexey Shved and Frank Williams...

Uptown wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

martin wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

franco12 wrote:I thin Emmanuel Mudiay is still available.

Payton has had some nice games and spurts of play. As a starter, he is exposed for what he is- a third string pg.

I don’t understand what Thibs is doing with his tight rotation. We’re losing with Payton we can lose with Frank or DSjr.

Help?

jimmer fredette Is available and I’d take him over Payton at this point .

Starbles could come out of retirement. And he could assistant coach at the same time. The new 21st century Herb!

What's Ron Baker doing?

Toure' Murry says hello

Is he hanging out with Moochie Norris or Mindaugas? Heard they can kill it.

Nah...I think he hangs out with Alexey Shved and Frank Williams...

Really? Last I saw Frank he was fighting for a roster spot on team Husky. Covid screwed his chances because all the buffets are closed.

Uptown wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

martin wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

franco12 wrote:I thin Emmanuel Mudiay is still available.

Payton has had some nice games and spurts of play. As a starter, he is exposed for what he is- a third string pg.

I don’t understand what Thibs is doing with his tight rotation. We’re losing with Payton we can lose with Frank or DSjr.

Help?

jimmer fredette Is available and I’d take him over Payton at this point .

Starbles could come out of retirement. And he could assistant coach at the same time. The new 21st century Herb!

What's Ron Baker doing?

Toure' Murry says hello

Is he hanging out with Moochie Norris or Mindaugas? Heard they can kill it.

Nah...I think he hangs out with Alexey Shved and Frank Williams...

I liked Alexy! The Russian Michael Jordan. If we kept him and the "coach would have put him in 4th quarter we would've been state champions. No doubt. No doubt in my mind" Wonder what happened to him? He must be "soaking in a hot tub with his soul mate".

HofstraBBall wrote:

Uptown wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

martin wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

franco12 wrote:I thin Emmanuel Mudiay is still available.

Payton has had some nice games and spurts of play. As a starter, he is exposed for what he is- a third string pg.

I don’t understand what Thibs is doing with his tight rotation. We’re losing with Payton we can lose with Frank or DSjr.

Help?

jimmer fredette Is available and I’d take him over Payton at this point .

Starbles could come out of retirement. And he could assistant coach at the same time. The new 21st century Herb!

What's Ron Baker doing?

Toure' Murry says hello

Is he hanging out with Moochie Norris or Mindaugas? Heard they can kill it.

Nah...I think he hangs out with Alexey Shved and Frank Williams...

I liked Alexy! The Russian Michael Jordan. If we kept him and the "coach would have put him in 4th quarter we would be state champions. No doubt. No doubt in my mind" Wonder what happened to him? He must be "soaking in a hot tub with his soul mate".

LOL

Stop talking about Frank Ntilikina. He is injured. He is always injured. His knee might need surgery. There's a chance he will never play for the Knicks again.

Once Frank comes back the Knicks will be more consistent. Defensively and he will give the Knicks a better chance at winning and stealing games.

BigDaddyG wrote:Elfrid is the tank commander we need in these chaotic days and there's still work to do before either Cade or Jalen are rocking the orange and blue.

Lol. Yes, I was worried we might end up with the 4th or 5th seed during winning streak. We still need one more high draft pick before I think this team has the talent to start winning. Dallas looks like they are making the playoffs, so a lottery pick would help. Give Payton 25 mins a game. Lol. Quickley should get 23 mins. While he can play, he will make enough rookie mistakes that he should not greatly improve the record this year.

Philc1 wrote:I can't anymore with this guy. It's torture.

Anty photoshops of him at the Capital?

fwk00 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:I can't anymore with this guy. It's torture.

Anty photoshops of him at the Capital?

I heard he has Covid19

We can’t cut Payton..... he’s repped by CAA

Let's put this another way: Elfrid so bad DSJr can't even get any minutes

Solid game tonight but IQ should still start

Why cut Payton. Hes a solid backup PG. And he's not a heavy hit on the cap. Not a locker room cancer from what I see. And he's protected by CAA, so he knows they will find him mins or a team that needs a vet PG... I think it depends on how thigs rotates quickley mins off the bench. He can be 1st guard or player off the bench, and still providea positive impact on the team in that role.

blkexec wrote:Why cut Payton. Hes a solid backup PG. And he's not a heavy hit on the cap. Not a locker room cancer from what I see. And he's protected by CAA, so he knows they will find him mins or a team that needs a vet PG... I think it depends on how thigs rotates quickley mins off the bench. He can be 1st guard or player off the bench, and still providea positive impact on the team in that role.

Some fans need a scapegoat. Last year Randle was the main one. Cut Payton and it will have to be someone else.

KnickDanger wrote:

blkexec wrote:Why cut Payton. Hes a solid backup PG. And he's not a heavy hit on the cap. Not a locker room cancer from what I see. And he's protected by CAA, so he knows they will find him mins or a team that needs a vet PG... I think it depends on how thigs rotates quickley mins off the bench. He can be 1st guard or player off the bench, and still providea positive impact on the team in that role.

Some fans need a scapegoat. Last year Randle was the main one. Cut Payton and it will have to be someone else.

He really does suck though!!!

blkexec wrote:Why cut Payton. Hes a solid backup PG. And he's not a heavy hit on the cap. Not a locker room cancer from what I see. And he's protected by CAA, so he knows they will find him mins or a team that needs a vet PG... I think it depends on how thigs rotates quickley mins off the bench. He can be 1st guard or player off the bench, and still providea positive impact on the team in that role.

Keyword: Backup

blkexec wrote:Why cut Payton. Hes a solid backup PG. And he's not a heavy hit on the cap. Not a locker room cancer from what I see. And he's protected by CAA, so he knows they will find him mins or a team that needs a vet PG... I think it depends on how thigs rotates quickley mins off the bench. He can be 1st guard or player off the bench, and still providea positive impact on the team in that role.

“Cut” is the issue. No reason to cut the guy. But having him next to Barrett, Randle and Robinson isn’t really effective. I just want to shake up the rotation a bit.

May want to consider he might be in effect helping Quick with some mentorship? Or is that just to justify expensive older players on OTHER teams? LOL