Knicks · Draft Corey kispert ayo dosunmo cam Thomas luka Garza (page 1)

xblvdels3 @ 1/20/2021 9:25 AM
These are our guys research them.

Assuming Dallas doesn’t fall into a top 5 pick and we wind up a 8th seed


Moody is a 1 hit wonder not even 40 percent from college 3. He could be end up not doing well like nesmith.


Keeping an eye on

C Ibou Dianko Badji *

Jaden Springer

Josh Christopher

Knixkik @ 1/20/2021 9:34 AM
Yeah I can see that. I like Kispert. But I disagree on Moody. He's not Nesmith, Moody is a very solid defensive player. He's a true 3&D prospect. He's also very young for this class. He won't be 19 until just before the draft.
xblvdels3 @ 1/20/2021 9:44 AM
Knixkik wrote:Yeah I can see that. I like Kispert. But I disagree on Moody. He's not Nesmith, Moody is a very solid defensive player. He's a true 3&D prospect. He's also very young for this class. He won't be 19 until just before the draft.


Ok I’ll keep an eye on how he progresses.

Knixkik @ 1/20/2021 10:31 AM
xblvdels3 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Yeah I can see that. I like Kispert. But I disagree on Moody. He's not Nesmith, Moody is a very solid defensive player. He's a true 3&D prospect. He's also very young for this class. He won't be 19 until just before the draft.


Ok I’ll keep an eye on how he progresses.


Yeah i think Kispert and Moody best in our range right now if we are in that 8-13 range. Kispert is a sure-fire 3pt sniper who should provide Joe Harris/ Duncan Robinson level production once he adjusts to the NBA. Moody will take a little longer, rightfully so, as he will only be 19 for his entire rookie year, but offers more long-term upside as a 2-way player.
xblvdels3 @ 1/20/2021 11:02 AM
Knixkik wrote:
xblvdels3 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Yeah I can see that. I like Kispert. But I disagree on Moody. He's not Nesmith, Moody is a very solid defensive player. He's a true 3&D prospect. He's also very young for this class. He won't be 19 until just before the draft.


Ok I’ll keep an eye on how he progresses.


Yeah i think Kispert and Moody best in our range right now if we are in that 8-13 range. Kispert is a sure-fire 3pt sniper who should provide Joe Harris/ Duncan Robinson level production once he adjusts to the NBA. Moody will take a little longer, rightfully so, as he will only be 19 for his entire rookie year, but offers more long-term upside as a 2-way player.


I agree. Kispert is the most important piece to me. We need a sniper. Games are won and loss in today’s games on whether you are hitting your 3s or not. I see him as a joe Harris for us. Kispert is a player who will demand a joe Harris like contract in 8 years. We can use his talents for a cheap rate for as long as possible.

Same with moody I’ll be checking his attributes.

Def I see us in 8-15 range


They should be able to get another 25-30 pick for a trade with dsj etc and our 18m in cap space anotber team could utilize.

Or trade for a guy like victor (trading for a guy not my fav move. Keep adding young talent. Keep our cap space ready for when a top guy becomes a free agent)


Offer the bag 💰 to a vet pg and wing who wants a 1 year deal with a team option for the second year.

fishmike @ 1/20/2021 11:23 AM
Kispert doesnt look like an NBA athlete. He looks like a nice role player. Maybe a starter who's defense you can hide if he's the elite shooter he's shown in college. Doesnt show much of a handle, doesnt show much defense. He looks like a nice piece with our 2nd first rounder but who knows. Seems way early to tell

who is giving up anything for DSJ?

Knixkik @ 1/20/2021 11:24 AM
fishmike wrote:Kispert doesnt look like an NBA athlete. He looks like a nice role player. Maybe a starter who's defense you can hide if he's the elite shooter he's shown in college. Doesnt show much of a handle, doesnt show much defense. He looks like a nice piece with our 2nd first rounder but who knows. Seems way early to tell

who is giving up anything for DSJ?

Kispert isn't a bad defender though. He will at least be able to defend in the NBA and not be a complete liability. But this is also the reason I rate Moody higher. He can really defend.

xblvdels3 @ 1/20/2021 11:55 AM
fishmike wrote:Kispert doesnt look like an NBA athlete. He looks like a nice role player. Maybe a starter who's defense you can hide if he's the elite shooter he's shown in college. Doesnt show much of a handle, doesnt show much defense. He looks like a nice piece with our 2nd first rounder but who knows. Seems way early to tell

who is giving up anything for DSJ?


He shoots the ball goes in. Quick functional release doesn’t need space

They run him off the line he attacks the basket

Movement shooter.

Defends better than Knox.


Your points are incorrect.

Who is your pick 8-18.

I can tear their game apart also


My pick 8-20 range are the best players available. I picked quickley last year.


Dsj is just throw in. The main course is the cash we can offer teams


Yes we are looking for pieces 8-20 not superstars. (Pieces)

xblvdels3 @ 1/20/2021 12:00 PM
Knixkik wrote:
fishmike wrote:Kispert doesnt look like an NBA athlete. He looks like a nice role player. Maybe a starter who's defense you can hide if he's the elite shooter he's shown in college. Doesnt show much of a handle, doesnt show much defense. He looks like a nice piece with our 2nd first rounder but who knows. Seems way early to tell

who is giving up anything for DSJ?

Kispert isn't a bad defender though. He will at least be able to defend in the NBA and not be a complete liability. But this is also the reason I rate Moody higher. He can really defend.


I with you. Honestly just glanced over him and had a bad taste in my mouth from watching nesmith lol

if he defends and shoots he is the best first pick 8-15

fishmike @ 1/20/2021 12:21 PM
xblvdels3 wrote:
fishmike wrote:Kispert doesnt look like an NBA athlete. He looks like a nice role player. Maybe a starter who's defense you can hide if he's the elite shooter he's shown in college. Doesnt show much of a handle, doesnt show much defense. He looks like a nice piece with our 2nd first rounder but who knows. Seems way early to tell

who is giving up anything for DSJ?


He shoots the ball goes in.

They run him off the line he attacks the basket

Movement shooter.

Defends better than Knox.


Your points are incorrect.

Who is your pick 8-18.

I can tear their game apart also


My pick 8-20 range are the best players available. I picked quickley last year.

your defense for a drafting a player who doesnt look like he will be able to defend is he's better than Kevin Knox, which is debatable at best.

He's a Korver replica if you are lucky. Lethal coming off screens, doesnt need a ton of space. I get it. He's a 4 year senior and 3 year starter playing great in college. Yeeahhh!!!!

xblvdels3 @ 1/20/2021 12:28 PM
fishmike wrote:
xblvdels3 wrote:
fishmike wrote:Kispert doesnt look like an NBA athlete. He looks like a nice role player. Maybe a starter who's defense you can hide if he's the elite shooter he's shown in college. Doesnt show much of a handle, doesnt show much defense. He looks like a nice piece with our 2nd first rounder but who knows. Seems way early to tell

who is giving up anything for DSJ?


He shoots the ball goes in.

They run him off the line he attacks the basket

Movement shooter.

Defends better than Knox.


Your points are incorrect.

Who is your pick 8-18.

I can tear their game apart also


My pick 8-20 range are the best players available. I picked quickley last year.

your defense for a drafting a player who doesnt look like he will be able to defend is he's better than Kevin Knox, which is debatable at best.

He's a Korver replica if you are lucky. Lethal coming off screens, doesnt need a ton of space. I get it. He's a 4 year senior and 3 year starter playing great in college. Yeeahhh!!!!

I know your gm strategy. Just trade all our picks for the next 3 years and every guy on our team for 3 old superstars right?


The flaw to this is there are only like 3 superstars in the League who can deliver a championship and they are already on teams hoping to win.

Yes we need a Korber replica. Games are won and lost in this league based on hitting shots or not. Especially 3s!!


We are building a (team) while leaving cap space for a superstar like morant zion in 2 years to join the party


In the meantime we will be a playoff battle tested group of young guys missing 1 or 2 pieces to win it all.

This is how you build


Yesss sign me up for a korver replica 🙏 with our 16 pick!

fishmike @ 1/20/2021 12:38 PM
xblvdels3 wrote:Yes we are looking for pieces 8-20 not superstars. (Pieces)
why? Knicks have 2 FRPs and Detriot's #2 which is looking like it will pick #31 in the draft. This is supposed to be one of the best deepest drafts and you want pieces? Bam Abedayo and Tyler Herro were in that range. That should be the goal. To execute and find the impact rotation player. Bullock/Rivers/Elf/Burks/Noel are "pieces." Im NOT using my first rounders on those. I want guys I can develop into high end rotation players or yes... even all stars.
xblvdels3 @ 1/20/2021 12:41 PM
If you don’t think with picks 8-22 is what we need

1. Moody
2. Kispert
3. Ayo
4. Cam Thomas
5. Springer
6. Christopher
7. Luka Garza


Then you are a (casual)

xblvdels3 @ 1/20/2021 12:42 PM
fishmike wrote:
xblvdels3 wrote:Yes we are looking for pieces 8-20 not superstars. (Pieces)
why? Knicks have 2 FRPs and Detriot's #2 which is looking like it will pick #31 in the draft. This is supposed to be one of the best deepest drafts and you want pieces? Bam Abedayo and Tyler Herro were in that range. That should be the goal. To execute and find the impact rotation player. Bullock/Rivers/Elf/Burks/Noel are "pieces." Im NOT using my first rounders on those. I want guys I can develop into high end rotation players or yes... even all stars.

I’ve done my scouting these guys are the best players for us 8-18


Yes we will have 4 picks


We will trade a player and 18 million for another pick

fishmike @ 1/20/2021 12:43 PM
xblvdels3 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
xblvdels3 wrote:
fishmike wrote:Kispert doesnt look like an NBA athlete. He looks like a nice role player. Maybe a starter who's defense you can hide if he's the elite shooter he's shown in college. Doesnt show much of a handle, doesnt show much defense. He looks like a nice piece with our 2nd first rounder but who knows. Seems way early to tell

who is giving up anything for DSJ?


He shoots the ball goes in.

They run him off the line he attacks the basket

Movement shooter.

Defends better than Knox.


Your points are incorrect.

Who is your pick 8-18.

I can tear their game apart also


My pick 8-20 range are the best players available. I picked quickley last year.

your defense for a drafting a player who doesnt look like he will be able to defend is he's better than Kevin Knox, which is debatable at best.

He's a Korver replica if you are lucky. Lethal coming off screens, doesnt need a ton of space. I get it. He's a 4 year senior and 3 year starter playing great in college. Yeeahhh!!!!

I know your gm strategy. Just trade all our picks for the next 3 years and every guy on our team for 3 old superstars right?


The flaw to this is there are only like 3 superstars in the League who can deliver a championship and they are already on teams hoping to win.

Yes we need a Korber replica. Games are won and lost in this league based on hitting shots or not. Especially 3s!!


We are building a (team) while leaving cap space for a superstar like morant zion in 2 years to join the party


In the meantime we will be a playoff battle tested group of young guys missing 1 or 2 pieces to win it all.

This is how you build


Yesss sign me up for a korver replica 🙏 with our 16 pick!

I love it when folks put words in your mouth then build their argument on the those words.

It appears your gm strategy is to draft subpar athletes and then sign other team's restricted free agents. Good stuff

xblvdels3 @ 1/20/2021 12:46 PM
fishmike wrote:
xblvdels3 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
xblvdels3 wrote:
fishmike wrote:Kispert doesnt look like an NBA athlete. He looks like a nice role player. Maybe a starter who's defense you can hide if he's the elite shooter he's shown in college. Doesnt show much of a handle, doesnt show much defense. He looks like a nice piece with our 2nd first rounder but who knows. Seems way early to tell

who is giving up anything for DSJ?


He shoots the ball goes in.

They run him off the line he attacks the basket

Movement shooter.

Defends better than Knox.


Your points are incorrect.

Who is your pick 8-18.

I can tear their game apart also


My pick 8-20 range are the best players available. I picked quickley last year.

your defense for a drafting a player who doesnt look like he will be able to defend is he's better than Kevin Knox, which is debatable at best.

He's a Korver replica if you are lucky. Lethal coming off screens, doesnt need a ton of space. I get it. He's a 4 year senior and 3 year starter playing great in college. Yeeahhh!!!!

I know your gm strategy. Just trade all our picks for the next 3 years and every guy on our team for 3 old superstars right?


The flaw to this is there are only like 3 superstars in the League who can deliver a championship and they are already on teams hoping to win.

Yes we need a Korber replica. Games are won and lost in this league based on hitting shots or not. Especially 3s!!


We are building a (team) while leaving cap space for a superstar like morant zion in 2 years to join the party


In the meantime we will be a playoff battle tested group of young guys missing 1 or 2 pieces to win it all.

This is how you build


Yesss sign me up for a korver replica 🙏 with our 16 pick!

I love it when folks put words in your mouth then build their argument on the those words.

It appears your gm strategy is to draft subpar athletes and then sign other team's restricted free agents. Good stuff


😁 good one

BigDaddyG @ 1/20/2021 1:08 PM
xblvdels3 wrote:If you don’t think with picks 8-22 is what we need

1. Moody
2. Kispert
3. Ayo
4. Cam Thomas
5. Springer
6. Christopher
7. Luka Garza


Then you are a (casual)

I would take Bouknight over any of the hose guys and I don't see Luka making it past the latter stages of the second round, but I think the rest of your list is reasonable. I'm a fan of Ayo and tho I'm not a fan of Cam's game, can't deny his talent. Kispert's rise will be interesting.

xblvdels3 @ 1/20/2021 1:23 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
xblvdels3 wrote:If you don’t think with picks 8-22 is what we need

1. Moody
2. Kispert
3. Ayo
4. Cam Thomas
5. Springer
6. Christopher
7. Luka Garza


Then you are a (casual)

I would take Bouknight over any of the hose guys and I don't see Luka making it past the latter stages of the second round, but I think the rest of your list is reasonable. I'm a fan of Ayo and tho I'm not a fan of Cam's game, can't deny his talent. Kispert's rise will be interesting.

Yea he looks good 👍

Knixkik @ 1/20/2021 1:59 PM
xblvdels3 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
xblvdels3 wrote:If you don’t think with picks 8-22 is what we need

1. Moody
2. Kispert
3. Ayo
4. Cam Thomas
5. Springer
6. Christopher
7. Luka Garza


Then you are a (casual)

I would take Bouknight over any of the hose guys and I don't see Luka making it past the latter stages of the second round, but I think the rest of your list is reasonable. I'm a fan of Ayo and tho I'm not a fan of Cam's game, can't deny his talent. Kispert's rise will be interesting.

Yea he looks good 👍

I'm interested in Cam Thomas and Bouknight in general, but both sort of scream future 6th man than starter. Both are professional scorers who will fill it up but won't have much to bring to the table off the ball. Jordan Clarkson type players. But you could do much worse in the second half of the lottery. But I see Moody and Kispert having more starter upside. Today it's as much about role than talent. That's why teams like Miami can continuously grab good NBA starters in the middle of the first round.

fitzfarm @ 1/20/2021 2:08 PM
Knixkik wrote:
xblvdels3 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
xblvdels3 wrote:If you don’t think with picks 8-22 is what we need

1. Moody
2. Kispert
3. Ayo
4. Cam Thomas
5. Springer
6. Christopher
7. Luka Garza


Then you are a (casual)

I would take Bouknight over any of the hose guys and I don't see Luka making it past the latter stages of the second round, but I think the rest of your list is reasonable. I'm a fan of Ayo and tho I'm not a fan of Cam's game, can't deny his talent. Kispert's rise will be interesting.

Yea he looks good 👍

I'm interested in Cam Thomas and Bouknight in general, but both sort of scream future 6th man than starter. Both are professional scorers who will fill it up but won't have much to bring to the table off the ball. Jordan Clarkson type players. But you could do much worse in the second half of the lottery. But I see Moody and Kispert having more starter upside. Today it's as much about role than talent. That's why teams like Miami can continuously grab good NBA starters in the middle of the first round.

As of right now the Mavs look awful might get a high lottery from them, they don’t look playoff worthy

Might get a top 10 pick from them

xblvdels3 @ 1/20/2021 3:08 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
xblvdels3 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
xblvdels3 wrote:If you don’t think with picks 8-22 is what we need

1. Moody
2. Kispert
3. Ayo
4. Cam Thomas
5. Springer
6. Christopher
7. Luka Garza


Then you are a (casual)

I would take Bouknight over any of the hose guys and I don't see Luka making it past the latter stages of the second round, but I think the rest of your list is reasonable. I'm a fan of Ayo and tho I'm not a fan of Cam's game, can't deny his talent. Kispert's rise will be interesting.

Yea he looks good 👍

I'm interested in Cam Thomas and Bouknight in general, but both sort of scream future 6th man than starter. Both are professional scorers who will fill it up but won't have much to bring to the table off the ball. Jordan Clarkson type players. But you could do much worse in the second half of the lottery. But I see Moody and Kispert having more starter upside. Today it's as much about role than talent. That's why teams like Miami can continuously grab good NBA starters in the middle of the first round.

As of right now the Mavs look awful might get a high lottery from them, they don’t look playoff worthy

Might get a top 10 pick from them


Yea. I check everyday for their losing scores

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