Knicks · Off season possibility (page 1)

BRIGGS @ 5/6/2021 2:25 PM

I like our defensive centers but against premium teams need more than defense— need premium offense too.

My suggestions
Use our 20 pick to trade for naz Reid center Minny. He won’t ever get full run there with towns and he’s the perfect guy to start here

Use Mitch and the other pick to trade up for Boughknight. We need an athletic wing who can score at three levels plus handle

This leaves us with maximum cap space for a pg sf etc and we can use pick 32 on a back up Sf 6-7/6-10

I think Reid has star potential and while we have centers — we don’t have a guy like that.

smackeddog @ 5/6/2021 3:57 PM
Naz Reid is the new Wiseman
Panos @ 5/6/2021 4:22 PM
I think we should pry Hermangomez from them. They are not getting full value.
jrodmc @ 5/6/2021 4:28 PM
smackeddog wrote:Naz Reid is the new Wiseman

I thought he was the new Christian Wood
knicks1248 @ 5/6/2021 4:36 PM
BRIGGS wrote:

I like our defensive centers but against premium teams need more than defense— need premium offense too.

My suggestions
Use our 20 pick to trade for naz Reid center Minny. He won’t ever get full run there with towns and he’s the perfect guy to start here

Use Mitch and the other pick to trade up for Boughknight. We need an athletic wing who can score at three levels plus handle

This leaves us with maximum cap space for a pg sf etc and we can use pick 32 on a back up Sf 6-7/6-10

I think Reid has star potential and while we have centers — we don’t have a guy like that.

Cool idea

Although This is why I don't suggest trades, because no matter how good it sounds, or how bad it sounds, it will never happen.

I haven't heard or read one single rumour linking the knicks to any player on Minny.

I also have a hard time believing the FO will trade 1st rnd picks for potential talent, they want a sure star.

I could see a OBI for Reid possibly

NYKBocker @ 5/6/2021 8:46 PM
jrodmc wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Naz Reid is the new Wiseman

I thought he was the new Christian Wood

BJ Mullens?

BRIGGS @ 5/6/2021 8:49 PM
https://www.basketball-reference.com/pla...

His 36 min stats are all star center level two ways.
To me that’s well worth a draft pick. My guess is Minny would think about it. Keep Noel as back up.

martin @ 5/6/2021 9:00 PM
BRIGGS wrote:https://www.basketball-reference.com/pla...

His 36 min stats are all star center level two ways.
To me that’s well worth a draft pick. My guess is Minny would think about it. Keep Noel as back up.

So why is Minny gonna give up on him?

Knickoftime @ 5/6/2021 11:33 PM
BRIGGS wrote:https://www.basketball-reference.com/pla...

His 36 min stats are all star center level two ways.
To me that’s well worth a draft pick. My guess is Minny would think about it. Keep Noel as back up.

Which two would that be?

BRIGGS @ 5/7/2021 8:10 AM
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:https://www.basketball-reference.com/pla...

His 36 min stats are all star center level two ways.
To me that’s well worth a draft pick. My guess is Minny would think about it. Keep Noel as back up.

Which two would that be?

I’m not interested in changing the core of the team

I’m looking for improvement areas. If we can pick up a two way center — a guy e we ho can play 28-32 min and can get 13-8-2-2– we’ll improve

We have a need for a ring slasher who can score 3 levels. I think boughknight can be had if we use Robinson in a package to move up. We don’t need 3 more rookies

Then the team can be conservative yet opportunistic with cap space

Sign Derrick rose sign Noel sign bullock sign Burks

Then figure out an upgrade at pg. that could be Dragic? A 1 year guy with rose?

Nalod @ 5/7/2021 8:31 AM
Dragic is 34 and they are preserving him well in Miami. Perhaps if DRose gets monetarily greedy and we don’t bring him back?
We only have Vildoza signed as PG for next year!! There is a lot of ways we can go here. Somewhere Thibs and Bryant have their little secrets. I don’t love IQ as a PG quite yet as a starter. He is a crafty penetrater but his in lane passing is not quite there yet.
As for Halliburton regret, the kid is an awful defender. Could be that he was on an awful defending team. But his Defense likely would not have cut for Thibs.
Back to the future...........Frank is not a PG. Call him a combo wing perhaps who can bring the ball up. They all can bring the ball up. Jokic brings the ball up. IQ greatest value is as a rookie is he stretches the interior with his range. I like this kid a lot but I won’t label him quite yet.
xavier @ 5/7/2021 9:30 AM
Knicks and Randle will reportedly not wait for the summer of 2022 to extend his contract, but will guarantee him $ 19.8M for next season, according to the current contract, and then they will immediately agree on an extension for another 4 years for the maximum amount they can give him, and that’s $ 106M in this case. If they waited for the summer of 2022, Randle could get a much bigger contract of course (over $ 200M in 5 years), but he also reportedly wants security as soon as possible.

In other words, that would mean we have him for the next 5 years for a total of $ 140M (with incentives included) and I would say it’s really more than team friendly for his production this season.

martin @ 5/7/2021 10:54 AM
xavier wrote:Knicks and Randle will reportedly not wait for the summer of 2022 to extend his contract, but will guarantee him $ 19.8M for next season, according to the current contract, and then they will immediately agree on an extension for another 4 years for the maximum amount they can give him, and that’s $ 106M in this case. If they waited for the summer of 2022, Randle could get a much bigger contract of course (over $ 200M in 5 years), but he also reportedly wants security as soon as possible.

In other words, that would mean we have him for the next 5 years for a total of $ 140M (with incentives included) and I would say it’s really more than team friendly for his production this season.

Link? I have not read that

I would say that these thing make sense - stability for Randle and NY would claw back some cap space for 2022 based on Randle's cap hold - but I don't think they are set in stone as you imply

xavier @ 5/7/2021 11:33 AM
martin wrote:
xavier wrote:Knicks and Randle will reportedly not wait for the summer of 2022 to extend his contract, but will guarantee him $ 19.8M for next season, according to the current contract, and then they will immediately agree on an extension for another 4 years for the maximum amount they can give him, and that’s $ 106M in this case. If they waited for the summer of 2022, Randle could get a much bigger contract of course (over $ 200M in 5 years), but he also reportedly wants security as soon as possible.

In other words, that would mean we have him for the next 5 years for a total of $ 140M (with incentives included) and I would say it’s really more than team friendly for his production this season.

Link? I have not read that

I would say that these thing make sense - stability for Randle and NY would claw back some cap space for 2022 based on Randle's cap hold - but I don't think they are set in stone as you imply

It’s on the first page of RealGM so I don’t know how reliable it is, but as you say, it definitely makes sense.

martin @ 5/7/2021 12:55 PM
xavier wrote:
martin wrote:
xavier wrote:Knicks and Randle will reportedly not wait for the summer of 2022 to extend his contract, but will guarantee him $ 19.8M for next season, according to the current contract, and then they will immediately agree on an extension for another 4 years for the maximum amount they can give him, and that’s $ 106M in this case. If they waited for the summer of 2022, Randle could get a much bigger contract of course (over $ 200M in 5 years), but he also reportedly wants security as soon as possible.

In other words, that would mean we have him for the next 5 years for a total of $ 140M (with incentives included) and I would say it’s really more than team friendly for his production this season.

Link? I have not read that

I would say that these thing make sense - stability for Randle and NY would claw back some cap space for 2022 based on Randle's cap hold - but I don't think they are set in stone as you imply

It’s on the first page of RealGM so I don’t know how reliable it is, but as you say, it definitely makes sense.

You mean the article whose title is "Julius Randle, Knicks Plan To Discuss Extension In Offseason"... meaning not what you wrote?

xavier @ 5/7/2021 1:00 PM
martin wrote:
xavier wrote:
martin wrote:
xavier wrote:Knicks and Randle will reportedly not wait for the summer of 2022 to extend his contract, but will guarantee him $ 19.8M for next season, according to the current contract, and then they will immediately agree on an extension for another 4 years for the maximum amount they can give him, and that’s $ 106M in this case. If they waited for the summer of 2022, Randle could get a much bigger contract of course (over $ 200M in 5 years), but he also reportedly wants security as soon as possible.

In other words, that would mean we have him for the next 5 years for a total of $ 140M (with incentives included) and I would say it’s really more than team friendly for his production this season.

Link? I have not read that

I would say that these thing make sense - stability for Randle and NY would claw back some cap space for 2022 based on Randle's cap hold - but I don't think they are set in stone as you imply

It’s on the first page of RealGM so I don’t know how reliable it is, but as you say, it definitely makes sense.

You mean the article whose title is "Julius Randle, Knicks Plan To Discuss Extension In Offseason"... meaning not what you wrote?

I'm sorry, this of mine sounded like an agreement had already been reached? I didn’t want to say that. Rumors say it’s such a plan. I don’t think you can even do that at this point but only after the season.

martin @ 5/7/2021 1:05 PM
xavier wrote:
martin wrote:
xavier wrote:
martin wrote:
xavier wrote:Knicks and Randle will reportedly not wait for the summer of 2022 to extend his contract, but will guarantee him $ 19.8M for next season, according to the current contract, and then they will immediately agree on an extension for another 4 years for the maximum amount they can give him, and that’s $ 106M in this case. If they waited for the summer of 2022, Randle could get a much bigger contract of course (over $ 200M in 5 years), but he also reportedly wants security as soon as possible.

In other words, that would mean we have him for the next 5 years for a total of $ 140M (with incentives included) and I would say it’s really more than team friendly for his production this season.

Link? I have not read that

I would say that these thing make sense - stability for Randle and NY would claw back some cap space for 2022 based on Randle's cap hold - but I don't think they are set in stone as you imply

It’s on the first page of RealGM so I don’t know how reliable it is, but as you say, it definitely makes sense.

You mean the article whose title is "Julius Randle, Knicks Plan To Discuss Extension In Offseason"... meaning not what you wrote?

I'm sorry, this of mine sounded like an agreement had already been reached? I didn’t want to say that. Rumors say it’s such a plan. I don’t think you can even do that at this point but only after the season.

Right. I would never read RealGM articles like this without also reading the underlying article or articles it's based on. RealGM is reinterpreting an article that is most likey based on something else. And realistically it's some intern or outsourced to Asia writer that doesn't really get it right.

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