Amazing seasons by both, but no one is gonna respect the work if this is the way you finish the season. No excuses have to show up from hear on in.
RJ and picks for Zach Lavine? Maybe a rumor like that will light a fire under his @$$.
I personally love it. Next game is a must win. I expect a huge game from both. I expect a win in Atlanta.
Just hate to see this happen to a player who had put so much hard work in and has been such a beast all year. Not the way it should end for him this year.
We win the next game and homecourt is restored. Chill out. Crazy how we are trying to write narratives based on the first couple playoff games of a 20 year olds career.
VDesai wrote:Amazing seasons by both, but no one is gonna respect the work if this is the way you finish the season. No excuses have to show up from hear on in.
Toxic mentality. This season is a success period by every measure. If the Knicks don't push through, they don't. Baby steps.
Respect is earned. Randle and RJB have earned it this year. No one can take that from them. When you love a team, you also love them when they are struggling.
Fandom is an option, not a license. When people finally understand that, things become so much easier and far less painful for everyone involved.
Randle wants to retire a knick playing like fck boy when it counts.
RJ is young so I can understand his struggles, but how old is Young.
Extremely disappointed in Randle..pulled for this guy since he became a knick,even when 80% of the fan base wanted him gone.. and now its 3 straight playoff games of low IQ basketball...
Retire a knick..lol yeah right
We don't win this series..no love for him..bye..2-15
TripleThreat nailed it. No one expected the Knicks to even sniff the playoffs.
They need to respond and have stronger games before the series is over. This is the kind of issue that lingers in your head and becomes a huge and probably undeserved problem.
We know both are good players. Randle has picked up his career in an amazing way. RJ is just getting started in this league and, of the two, may have less of an urgency to show up. But they both have to.
It is already a huge problem in Randle’s head, at least from out point of view. This is clearly bothering him and after working so hard on improving his game, he has to show up before the season is over.
Playoffs are a huge thing, especially for the players. Those reputations spread by media and fans DO reach them and have an impact. Right now, deservedly or not, both players are being questioned as playoff performers. The game is different, teams play you differently and they adjust. They have to respond next game and on. Yes, a Knicks series win depends on it, but their careers could get hit moving forward unless they prove, mostly to themselves, that they can shine in this stage.
Julius Randle needs to reduce the degree of difficulty he’s using with his offense. Stop with the fade aways. Focus on good position and good shots. Start in the post and work outside. Don’t get caught dribbling 25 feet out.
Same with Barret— get shots that are simpler— don’t take side angle 3s —- corner or top of key. Get to the basket— get fouled etc..
No reason either of these guys are going 1-10
knicks1248 wrote:Randle wants to retire a knick playing like fck boy when it counts.RJ is young so I can understand his struggles, but how old is Young.
Extremely disappointed in Randle..pulled for this guy since he became a knick,even when 80% of the fan base wanted him gone.. and now its 3 straight playoff games of low IQ basketball...
Retire a knick..lol yeah right
We don't win this series..no love for him..bye..2-15
Be any type of fan you want to be, it's a free country. But being a fair weather fan is a total dick move.
Love your team when they win. Love your team when they lose. What matters is honoring the Knicks jersey when a player puts it on. It means playing the right way. It means sacrificing for the team. It means giving everything you have on the floor every night. A player can do that if they are a HOFer, an All Star, a rotation guy or even a fringe guy trying to cling to a roster spot. If you focus on players honoring the Knicks jersey, then you don't have to dig in on every good performance and bad performance, because good and bad games will come. If Randle is giving it everything he has, that's all anyone can ask.
If you play this game the right way, everything else will take care of itself. It's not just some corny shit you say to a middle school youth sports team, it's said because it's simple and it's the truth.
Still a couple of games left to play. I believe in this team. I have faith in this team. I'm not worried about it. If the Knicks prevail? Amazing. If the Knicks fall? Then that's that, as long as they played the right way, and keep doing that, eventually they will break through.
I'm not sucking Randle's dick for what he did for one season compared to his entire career. But I'm also not shitting on him for a few bad games after having a strong year for this team.
The sky is not falling. I have faith in this team. These current games don't set this year's vast accomplishments on fire.
TripleThreat wrote:VDesai wrote:Amazing seasons by both, but no one is gonna respect the work if this is the way you finish the season. No excuses have to show up from hear on in.
Toxic mentality. This season is a success period by every measure. If the Knicks don't push through, they don't. Baby steps.
Respect is earned. Randle and RJB have earned it this year. No one can take that from them. When you love a team, you also love them when they are struggling.
Fandom is an option, not a license. When people finally understand that, things become so much easier and far less painful for everyone involved.
Total agreement here. I call this playing with house money. Hope they use the playoffs to understand what it takes to play at this level. Also don’t want to overstate being down 1 game in the playoffs. Just focus on our guys being ready Sunday.
RJ played decent to well first 2 games. Sucked in game 3
Randle has been terrible all series
This isn't about fait weathered fandom. I am a Randle and Barrett fan. But this is a "gut check." Meaning, they put in the work this year, but now that they are on the stage they have come up empty. Do they want to go down like this and undermine their own hard work. The league remembers the last thing you have done. Time to summon up the confidence and guts to pull out of this funk.
If you read this forum it's been a roller coaster with RJ all season. Early people called him a bust, he turned it around and became a hero, now he's back in a valley. Time for him to turn it around again. He's 20 years old. Inconsistency is not unusual.
Randle is another story. No excuses if he drops another dud on Sunday.
Welpee wrote:If you read this forum it's been a roller coaster with RJ all season. Early people called him a bust, he turned it around and became a hero, now he's back in a valley. Time for him to turn it around again. He's 20 years old. Inconsistency is not unusual.Randle is another story. No excuses if he drops another dud on Sunday.
RJ was effective second half of game 1 and all of game 2. He’s still very young so I expect him to be inconsistent in the playoffs
I’m concerned Julius has been exposed. This summer may be exactly the time to trade him
Philc1 wrote:Welpee wrote:If you read this forum it's been a roller coaster with RJ all season. Early people called him a bust, he turned it around and became a hero, now he's back in a valley. Time for him to turn it around again. He's 20 years old. Inconsistency is not unusual.Randle is another story. No excuses if he drops another dud on Sunday.
RJ was effective second half of game 1 and all of game 2. He’s still very young so I expect him to be inconsistent in the playoffs
I’m concerned Julius has been exposed. This summer may be exactly the time to trade him
Papabear Says
That's one thing about the good old Knicks fans. You have some bad games and out the door you go and get nothing back. Randle is having a bad series but without him we would not be here.
knicks1248 wrote:Randle wants to retire a knick playing like fck boy when it counts.RJ is young so I can understand his struggles, but how old is Young.
Extremely disappointed in Randle..pulled for this guy since he became a knick,even when 80% of the fan base wanted him gone.. and now its 3 straight playoff games of low IQ basketball...
Retire a knick..lol yeah right
We don't win this series..no love for him..bye..2-15
Sad. So basically your fandom is transactional based on results of a series?
How old is young? I guess as a fan you have demonstrated its never to late to demonstrate immaturity.
knicks1248 wrote:Randle wants to retire a knick playing like fck boy when it counts.RJ is young so I can understand his struggles, but how old is Young.
Extremely disappointed in Randle..pulled for this guy since he became a knick,even when 80% of the fan base wanted him gone.. and now its 3 straight playoff games of low IQ basketball...
Retire a knick..lol yeah right
We don't win this series..no love for him..bye..2-15
Your posts are a joke, you literally posted earlier in the season attacking me claiming I was probably the type of fan who becomes hyper critical of players the moment they struggle😂
Any fool can support a player when they are playing well, it means nothing, it's bandwagon-ing- if you were a player would you value fans who only support you when you're having success then turn on you the instant you struggle? can you support a player through thick and thin? that's the challenge.
Look around the playoffs, there are lots of good players who are struggling- Michael Porter Jr went 1-3 last night! Jimmy Butler stunk and the Heat got swept. It happens.
This is crazy. The team sucks for decades, finally makes it into the playoffs, plays three games, is down 2-1, and the sky is all of a sudden falling?
Typical NYC. Fans who either dream of magic mountains the moment things get okay, and then immediately thrash the team, the players and the FO the moment there is a bit of adversity. Booing our own players. No wonder good players think twice before coming here.
I have my fair share of issues with how the Knicks have handled the season and the current series. But the team has more than exceeded any expectations that I had at the start of the season, so right now it is all bonus time.