Knicks · Luca Vildoza **** Linsanity La segunda parte (page 1)

NYKBocker @ 6/7/2021 2:39 PM
We are going to love this dude. The last time we had a player like this that attacked the paint and dished was Jeremy Lin.

Obi and RJ are really going to flourish with this guy running the point.

https://nypost.com/2021/06/05/pablo-prig...

Pablo Prigioni sees Knicks loving ‘really good’ Luca Vildoza
By Marc Berman June 5, 2021 | 3:00pm | Updated

Knicks coach Tom Thibodeau finally met the team’s new signee, Argentinian combo guard Luca Vildoza, on Thursday and watched him work out for the first time live in Tarrytown, The Post has learned.

According to former Knicks point guard, Pablo Prigioni, Thibodeau is going to fall for his Argentinian countryman.

Prigioni, the popular playmaking point guard from the Knicks’ laVildozanity?st playoff team before this season, in 2012-13, is assistant coach for the Timberwolves.

“[Vildoza is] really, really good,’’ Prigioni told The Post in a phone interview. “I really like him. Very talented, got a great shot and knows how to pass. I’m really excited to see Luca next season with the Knicks. Tom’s going to like him.’’

Prigioni was Vildoza’s head coach for one month with Spanish League club Baskonia in 2017 after Vildoza first left Argentina as a 21-year-old.

Prigioni helped Vilodoza’s transition then and hopes to aid him again. They’ve been on the phone since Vildoza flew to the United States two weeks ago.

“For sure I tried to help him in that transition [to Spain] and I’m trying to do the same thing now this summer,” Prigioni said. “I’m trying to stay close to him. Even though I’m in the Minnesota organization, I’m trying to help if he needs anything. I’ve said to some of the guys in the Knicks organization, ‘You guys got to take care of Luca.’ As they say, once a Knick always a Knick.”

While Vildoza weaved a solid career with Baskonia, Prigioni resigned during his first season with the club. Prigioni accepted an assistant coaching position from the Nets in April 2018, then moved to Minnesota in 2019-20.


“Luca was 20,’’ Prigioni said. “I really had a good time with him. I threw him into a game In Israel, a EuroLeague game, we were behind and he had a huge game. It was a turning point for him. After that he played more and more and he became really big for Baskonia.’’

Vildoza was on Baskonia’s title team in 2020 with Facundo Campazzo, who is thriving with the Nuggets.

Vildoza followed Prigioni’s exact path: Argentina to Spain to the NBA. Vildoza, 25, is making the jump a lot younger. Prigioni was 35 when he joined the Knicks in 2012.

“I came older, but it was pretty clear he was ready to make that jump,’’ Prigioni said. “Last season, he was huge in winning the title with Baskonia. He was doing really well this year. You knew the next step would be the NBA. The Knicks were following him, other teams were following him as well. I’m not surprised.’’

The Knicks gave Vildoza a contract for this season at $3.4 million to ward off any free-agent competition.


I would say he’s more talented than me, to be honest,’’ Prigioni said. “I came in with more experience — knowing exactly what I can do for the team to have an impact. He’s younger and more talented. He has a really nice shot. You’ll see. He can score the ball from 3. He’s a good passer.

“He’s got good legs to [kneel] down and guard. I had instincts playing defense and getting steals and playing smarts, and that’s something he’ll get with age and years. We have some [similarities], but I’d say he’s really more talented.’’

Thibodeau declined to integrate Vildoza onto the team for the playoffs, and he kept away from the club in the final two playoff contests after quarantining.

Thibodeau has admitted he didn’t know much about Vildoza, saying “our scouts liked him.’’ He was abrupt in his answers about the guard, kept calling the signing “a next-season thing,” though Vildoza took up a roster spot.

Since the Knicks’ season ended Wednesday following a five-game wipeout by the Hawks, Vildoza has met with members of the front office and future teammates.

“He’s a very lovely kid, easygoing guy,’’ Prigioni said. “ It’s not easy to walking into an [NBA] locker room coming from Europe when the English is not great. He’s still a shy guy and could take time to get with you in the interviews in English.’’


In 58 games split between the EuroLeague and Spanish League, Vildoza averaged 10.5 points, 3.5 assists and shot 36 percent from 3-point range. The Knicks will be desperate for point-guard help next season with Elfird Payton, Derrick Rose and Frank Ntilikina all free agents.

Knicks president Leon Rose was not made available for comment after the season to talk about the team’s future.

“I’m excited because he’s coming at the right time for the Knicks,’’ Prigioni said. “It’s exciting time for the team and fans. Its good timing for him. There’s a mix of young guys and old guys — a good mix for him.’’

Vildoza will play for the Argentinian Olympic Team in Tokyo and perhaps in the Las Vegas summer league. The Olympic quarterfinals are Aug. 3. The Knicks’ summer league starts Aug. 7.

Vildoza’s deal won’t become guaranteed until the day after the 2021-22 season opener.

“I can’t tell that,’’ Prigioni said when asked if Vildoza can be an NBA starter. “He has a long way to go to get to know the system the coach, the league. I don’t know if he’s ready to yet to start but whatever the role they have for him, he should perform well and help the team win.”



Vildozanity?

Knickfury11 @ 6/7/2021 5:39 PM
Can’t wait to see what he can bring to the table at the nba level. I hope that the adjustment period is kind on him and he gets his opportunities to run the point. Would be awesome to see Thibs take to him early on.
Clean @ 6/7/2021 6:22 PM

I posted this in the Playoff Thread but this seems like a better place. We don't need Luca to be an all star but if he can pass like this for us we will improve.
sealy @ 6/7/2021 8:13 PM
Very excited for this guy.

Will the FO dip heavy into an FA young/older PG or go with a cheaper option and give him a real opportunity? Interesting to who the guys in top 10 of RPM #s for PGs are:

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_...

Clean @ 6/7/2021 8:58 PM

This goes in deeper on his passing out of the PNR. This one got me excited.
Jimbo5 @ 6/7/2021 9:49 PM
I really like Luca as a player if he can be a younger version of Prigioni that would be great. I think Argentinian players have a certain toughness built in them. I just think with the Knicks, Luca might be a victim of circumstances. The knicks love what DRose bring more so as a spark off the bench. I think Luca has until the start of free agency to convince Thibs and the FO that he can have a major role in this Knick team next year. If the Knicks sign any of the PG that they have interest in like Ball, Nunn, CP3, Lowery or trade for Graham that will put Luca in an awkward situation. I hope im wrong but if they do that and Luca remains in the team, we might be looking at next year's Frank.
HofstraBBall @ 6/7/2021 10:09 PM
Jimbo5 wrote:I really like Luca as a player if he can be a younger version of Prigioni that would be great. I think Argentinian players have a certain toughness built in them. I just think with the Knicks, Luca might be a victim of circumstances. The knicks love what DRose bring more so as a spark off the bench. I think Luca has until the start of free agency to convince Thibs and the FO that he can have a major role in this Knick team next year. If the Knicks sign any of the PG that they have interest in like Ball, Nunn, CP3, Lowery or trade for Graham that will put Luca in an awkward situation. I hope im wrong but if they do that and Luca remains in the team, we might be looking at next year's Frank.

Next year's Frank?? Why? Is he also afraid to shoot? Afraid to drive? And will cost us a lottery pick?

By signing Luca to multiple years, I feel the FO felt he would at least fill the back up PG role nicely and also has a chance to become a solid starting PG in the league, with time. But you are right, it is all quite early. The Draft, FA and who we resign is still TBD and that will dictate what his role will be. Highlights look like he may be a solid player. But we know how accurate hype video is.

Jimbo5 @ 6/7/2021 10:17 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:I really like Luca as a player if he can be a younger version of Prigioni that would be great. I think Argentinian players have a certain toughness built in them. I just think with the Knicks, Luca might be a victim of circumstances. The knicks love what DRose bring more so as a spark off the bench. I think Luca has until the start of free agency to convince Thibs and the FO that he can have a major role in this Knick team next year. If the Knicks sign any of the PG that they have interest in like Ball, Nunn, CP3, Lowery or trade for Graham that will put Luca in an awkward situation. I hope im wrong but if they do that and Luca remains in the team, we might be looking at next year's Frank.

Next year's Frank?? Why? Is he also afraid to shoot? Afraid to drive? And will cost us a lottery pick?

By signing Luca to multiple years, I feel the FO felt he would at least fill the back up PG role nicely and also has a chance to become a solid starting PG in the league, with time. But you are right, it is all quite early. The Draft, FA and who we resign is still TBD and that will dictate what his role will be. Highlights look like he may be a solid player. But we know how accurate hype video is.

In the sense that alot of fans think that he can be a contributer in the team instead he rides the bench not being able to see the floor. Im not saying they have the same skill set, their skill sets is way different from each other. I think Luca can be a very good point guard in the NBA, the question is, will he get the chance to showcase it if the knicks bring in say Ball, CP3, Nunn while keeping DRose as the team's 6th man.

ramtour420 @ 6/8/2021 9:39 AM
Clean wrote:
This goes in deeper on his passing out of the PNR. This one got me excited.

Wow, he looks fantastic. We might have just found our PG of the future. PnR is the oldest and still the most effective play in the book. If he can be our version of Stockton then we are set because we already have our version of Malone in Randle.

Clean @ 6/8/2021 9:53 AM
ramtour420 wrote:
Clean wrote:
This goes in deeper on his passing out of the PNR. This one got me excited.

Wow, he looks fantastic. We might have just found our PG of the future. PnR is the oldest and still the most effective play in the book. If he can be our version of Stockton then we are set because we already have our version of Malone in Randle.

If you liked that one there is a part 2 which shows how he passes to the other options coming off PNRs.

KnickDanger @ 6/8/2021 11:11 AM
Nice highlights for sure -- how does he do in a faster, meaner NBA?
Welpee @ 6/8/2021 1:52 PM
Jimbo5 wrote:I really like Luca as a player if he can be a younger version of Prigioni that would be great. I think Argentinian players have a certain toughness built in them. I just think with the Knicks, Luca might be a victim of circumstances. The knicks love what DRose bring more so as a spark off the bench. I think Luca has until the start of free agency to convince Thibs and the FO that he can have a major role in this Knick team next year. If the Knicks sign any of the PG that they have interest in like Ball, Nunn, CP3, Lowery or trade for Graham that will put Luca in an awkward situation. I hope im wrong but if they do that and Luca remains in the team, we might be looking at next year's Frank.
But can you afford to hand him the keys to the PG position without seeing him against NBA level competition? If the organization believes in this guy maybe they sign a B-level point guard in free agency to a short deal as a safety net. I wouldn't be comfortable seeing the Knicks say this is the long term answer to the point guard position from day one. I hope he is though.
smackeddog @ 6/8/2021 3:23 PM
Seems like Payton’s extra bad plummet at the end of the season coincided with the news we signed this guy
fishmike @ 6/8/2021 3:48 PM
Jimbo5 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:I really like Luca as a player if he can be a younger version of Prigioni that would be great. I think Argentinian players have a certain toughness built in them. I just think with the Knicks, Luca might be a victim of circumstances. The knicks love what DRose bring more so as a spark off the bench. I think Luca has until the start of free agency to convince Thibs and the FO that he can have a major role in this Knick team next year. If the Knicks sign any of the PG that they have interest in like Ball, Nunn, CP3, Lowery or trade for Graham that will put Luca in an awkward situation. I hope im wrong but if they do that and Luca remains in the team, we might be looking at next year's Frank.

Next year's Frank?? Why? Is he also afraid to shoot? Afraid to drive? And will cost us a lottery pick?

By signing Luca to multiple years, I feel the FO felt he would at least fill the back up PG role nicely and also has a chance to become a solid starting PG in the league, with time. But you are right, it is all quite early. The Draft, FA and who we resign is still TBD and that will dictate what his role will be. Highlights look like he may be a solid player. But we know how accurate hype video is.

In the sense that alot of fans think that he can be a contributer in the team instead he rides the bench not being able to see the floor. Im not saying they have the same skill set, their skill sets is way different from each other. I think Luca can be a very good point guard in the NBA, the question is, will he get the chance to showcase it if the knicks bring in say Ball, CP3, Nunn while keeping DRose as the team's 6th man.

who thinks that about Frank.... AND actually watches the Knick games? I mean I love Frank, but the dude was clearly reading the book Dennis Smith Jr left behind after the trade... you know the one, "How you play your way out of the NBA"
jrodmc @ 6/8/2021 4:19 PM
KnickDanger wrote:Nice highlights for sure -- how does he do in a faster, meaner NBA?

Yeah, the NBA that doesn't do the FIBA stand and stare while someone tosses cross court shit in the air. Holy crap, if this is the major part of what this guy is about, NBA defenses are going to eat his lunch. And dinner. And serve him shit for breakfast.

Can you imagine Thibs going full psycho in practice watching 50 foot passes and no one on D getting a hand on it?

SupremeCommander @ 6/8/2021 6:00 PM
We need an actual PG as a backup PG so I’m definitely happy he’s here
KnickDanger @ 6/8/2021 8:24 PM
jrodmc wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:Nice highlights for sure -- how does he do in a faster, meaner NBA?

Yeah, the NBA that doesn't do the FIBA stand and stare while someone tosses cross court shit in the air. Holy crap, if this is the major part of what this guy is about, NBA defenses are going to eat his lunch. And dinner. And serve him shit for breakfast.

Can you imagine Thibs going full psycho in practice watching 50 foot passes and no one on D getting a hand on it?

Well I am hopeful he adjusts! But not counting on him being "the guy...."

Clean @ 6/15/2021 6:25 PM

BigDaddyG @ 6/15/2021 7:33 PM
Clean wrote:

Is he training with Raymond Felton?

martin @ 6/15/2021 7:37 PM
Haha Westchester GLeague coaches

BigDaddyG wrote:Is he training with Raymond Felton?
Nalod @ 6/16/2021 8:50 AM
martin wrote:Haha Westchester GLeague coaches

BigDaddyG wrote:Is he training with Raymond Felton?

Sounds more like “Marcellus Wallace” tone wise.
“You got a want to make cross court passes. Don’t. Thats your pride. Now tell me you not gonna make these passes”.

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