TLover wrote: Tough to find star players at current picks 19 & 21 but then again the current NBA MVP was pick #41.
Can't think like that.
Success happens with the right calibration of confidence. If the Knicks have four picks this draft and use them all, the mindset should be "If there are only four real hard ass motherfuckering non stop dogs who can help us win a championship in this draft, we will find them."
Years ago, I took a consulting gig to help a team evaluate prospects in the 6th-7th round range and into UDFA. Part of the problem in this area of the draft is volume of data you need to push through and usually limited information on the prospects in question. The team in question had multiple 7th round picks. I was given some entry level front office guys to do grunt work and then I hired a few contractors to do some extra film work. One of the front office guys kept talking about how the pan out rate for 7th rounders was horrible. Kept saying it. Wouldn't stop. Kept saying the team should venture into free agency to find some help on special teams. I talked to him in private at one point. But he wouldn't stop. Then I finally kicked him out of the fucking room. The assistant GM wanted to know what happened, and I told him the truth. On my ship, I need crew, not passengers.
You learn from the past, you can't live in it.
If you want the hard truth, some professional athletes can't let the last play go. Mark Sanchez had this problem ( well he had lots of problems, but this was one of them) If you give up a touchdown and you missed that tackle or blew that coverage, you know what makes everything worse? If you are lost in your head about something that happened five plays ago and now you've lost focus and given up yet another touchdown.
"I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself."
-D. H. Lawrence
You have to have the confidence that no matter what happens in front of you, that you'll find a way to make it work. Hard work isn't enough as a professional athlete. Talent alone just isn't enough. You need to be open to humility, really listen and be fearless. You need to understand yourself more than you need to understand anything else. A franchise can't succeed if it keeps looking over it's shoulder.
The sky is not falling. It only look that way because I'm lifting the entire ground on my shoulders and making it rise up.
TripleThreat wrote:TLover wrote: Tough to find star players at current picks 19 & 21 but then again the current NBA MVP was pick #41.
Can't think like that.
Success happens with the right calibration of confidence. If the Knicks have four picks this draft and use them all, the mindset should be "If there are only four real hard ass motherfuckering non stop dogs who can help us win a championship in this draft, we will find them."
Years ago, I took a consulting gig to help a team evaluate prospects in the 6th-7th round range and into UDFA. Part of the problem in this area of the draft is volume of data you need to push through and usually limited information on the prospects in question. The team in question had multiple 7th round picks. I was given some entry level front office guys to do grunt work and then I hired a few contractors to do some extra film work. One of the front office guys kept talking about how the pan out rate for 7th rounders was horrible. Kept saying it. Wouldn't stop. Kept saying the team should venture into free agency to find some help on special teams. I talked to him in private at one point. But he wouldn't stop. Then I finally kicked him out of the fucking room. The assistant GM wanted to know what happened, and I told him the truth. On my ship, I need crew, not passengers.
You learn from the past, you can't live in it.
If you want the hard truth, some professional athletes can't let the last play go. Mark Sanchez had this problem ( well he had lots of problems, but this was one of them) If you give up a touchdown and you missed that tackle or blew that coverage, you know what makes everything worse? If you are lost in your head about something that happened five plays ago and now you've lost focus and given up yet another touchdown.
"I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself."
-D. H. Lawrence
You have to have the confidence that no matter what happens in front of you, that you'll find a way to make it work. Hard work isn't enough as a professional athlete. Talent alone just isn't enough. You need to be open to humility, really listen and be fearless. You need to understand yourself more than you need to understand anything else. A franchise can't succeed if it keeps looking over it's shoulder.
The sky is not falling. It only look that way because I'm lifting the entire ground on my shoulders and making it rise up.
This is some very inspirational stuff thank you for posting it
TLover wrote:Hurts that we passed on these 2 upcoming stars for Ntlinkina & Knox.
I still kick myself for not picking the right numbers for the Powerball lottery when the jackpot was 100 million. Could have retired in luxury long ago, but now have taken up drinking out of frustration and really struggling just to stay afloat. If I only wrote different seven numbers on that ticket!
MPJr 3-13 in last nights game, not been the same since he aggravated his back.
Knixkik wrote:TLover wrote:Hurts that we passed on these 2 upcoming stars for Ntlinkina & Knox.
The past can linger but finally have faith that we have some competence in the front office; and that future mistakes will be far less. Tough to find star players at current picks 19 & 21 but then again the current NBA MVP was pick #41.
Having the best coach in the league helps.
If we drafted those players the front office and coaching changes never happen of course. So not sure what is a better option. Probably the mistakes creating this opportunity. Now we have Barrett, Robinson, Quickley, and Toppin as major building blocks over the last 3 drafts, not a bad group. In fact probably better than most. I think the Mikal Bridges miss hurts too, because he was a more obvious pick over Knox at the time. A lot of us really liked him. What he is doing now as a high level 3&D starter was very predictable. And drafting him probably doesn't change the struggles of the franchise leading to the coaching and front office changes. He's more of a piece, not a game-changer. But water under the bridge for all of this. We are in a good spot now.
He would of been a very good fit here. Tough to give him crap about Porter jr. because of the injuries
SupremeCommander wrote:KnickDanger wrote:Yep I remember everyone clamoring for Mitchell and Porter in those drafts…NOT!
um, hello?
[url="http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=56495"]Donovan Mitchell[/url]
[url="http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=58302&page=2"]Michael Porter Jr[/url]
I am always spot on about everything
Kudos on the Mitchell call. But regarding Porter, you said "if the doctors say he's fine." If he were fine he wouldn't have even been on the board at #8, he's probably one of the top 2 or 3 picks.
He had to have a second surgery and missed his entire rookie season and was brought along slowly in his first year on the court. Doesn't sound like he was fine to me at the time of the draft. Even if it works out, Porter was a major gamble and the risk was too great with the 8th pick. Again, you have to look at who was left on the board when we picked versus when Denver was on the clock at #14. There weren't any potential big time players left on the board.
