Is a free agent.
So there's that.
He's better than Cameron Payne.
6'7 uber athletic guy with a 7'3 wingspan.
Does he have another gear? Does he have the work ethic for a Randle-like improvement under Thibs?
I think whoever the Knicks sign this off-season needs to be either taller than 6'10'' or have a 40% or greater 3pt shooting percentage.
Oubre is neither. What's the point?
ESOMKnicks wrote:I think whoever the Knicks sign this off-season needs to be either taller than 6'10'' or have a 40% or greater 3pt shooting percentage.Oubre is neither. What's the point?
I would like to see another 6 10" pg like Simmons.
But I think Kelly would be a solid acquisition, but he thinks he's worth 20 mill.
The fact that there are so many 2nd tier players looking for that 20 mill per 4 yr deal.
All it takes is one team to set the market
One year,$18M deal. Let him prove last year is an aberration.
knicks1248 wrote:ESOMKnicks wrote:I think whoever the Knicks sign this off-season needs to be either taller than 6'10'' or have a 40% or greater 3pt shooting percentage.Oubre is neither. What's the point?
I would like to see another 6 10" pg like Simmons.
But I think Kelly would be a solid acquisition, but he thinks he's worth 20 mill.
The fact that there are so many 2nd tier players looking for that 20 mill per 4 yr deal.
All it takes is one team to set the market
Okay, so he is not another 6'10'' PG like Simmons. Yet he would be a solid acquisition. Is anyone who is not Simmons a solid acquisition? Or is there a link in the chain of logic missing somewhere here?
BigDaddyG wrote:One year,$18M deal. Let him prove last year is an aberration.
Give it a team option so he has even more incentive
Oubre is terrible and brings nothing to the table. Hard pass. Been a below average player his entire career.
Kelly NO-ubre
If a player can't play right for the Warriors next to Curry, what hope would they have here? He's a chucker- if he thinks he should shoot before passing to Steph Curry, how do you think he's going to be playing alongside Randle and RJ?
We would need to understand what the hell happened last year. He went through a putrid stretch
I’ve liked him in the past. I like his swagger
We need shooters — game will open up for a lot of people w more reliable SF
fishmike wrote:Is a free agent. So there's that.
He's better than Cameron Payne.
6'7 uber athletic guy with a 7'3 wingspan.
Does he have another gear? Does he have the work ethic for a Randle-like improvement under Thibs?
Size wise he is exactly what we need. Could Thibs turn him into a shutdown defender at the 3? Someone with his length and athletic ability should be an elite defender. So why isn't he? Offensivly he is suspect as hell. Will be a paid based on high level ceiling rather than his actual production. WHat scares me is he has been a negative sum player on the Warriors.
ESOMKnicks wrote:knicks1248 wrote:ESOMKnicks wrote:I think whoever the Knicks sign this off-season needs to be either taller than 6'10'' or have a 40% or greater 3pt shooting percentage.Oubre is neither. What's the point?
I would like to see another 6 10" pg like Simmons.
But I think Kelly would be a solid acquisition, but he thinks he's worth 20 mill.
The fact that there are so many 2nd tier players looking for that 20 mill per 4 yr deal.
All it takes is one team to set the market
Okay, so he is not another 6'10'' PG like Simmons. Yet he would be a solid acquisition. Is anyone who is not Simmons a solid acquisition? Or is there a link in the chain of logic missing somewhere here?
If we are only signing 6'10" point guards we may have a problem fielding a team next season.
BigDaddyG wrote:One year,$18M deal. Let him prove last year is an aberration.
I agree, plus it puts us in position to make a run at LaVine in free agency next off season.
BigDaddyG wrote:One year,$18M deal. Let him prove last year is an aberration.
What's the reasoning behind $18M? 2 years ago the Knicks made a 2 year commitment to Randle in that range and he seemed to have better production and value up until that point in his career.
What is the benchmark for both wanting to sign Oubre for $18M versus using the cap space on better alternatives?
martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:One year,$18M deal. Let him prove last year is an aberration.
What's the reasoning behind $18M? 2 years ago the Knicks made a 2 year commitment to Randle in that range and he seemed to have better production and value up until that point in his career.
What is the benchmark for both wanting to sign Oubre for $18M versus using the cap space on better alternatives?
Are there realistic better alternatives for wing players this off season? The one year deal allows us the flexibility to either resign him if he as a breakout season or let him walk and go after a better fit next off season. The guy I want is LaVine and if he decides to leave Chicago I think we would have a legit shot at signing him. I would be nervous about missing out on that opportunity because we're locked into Oubre for multiple years. I also think I read or hear somewhere Oubre wants around $20M?
Welpee wrote:martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:One year,$18M deal. Let him prove last year is an aberration.
What's the reasoning behind $18M? 2 years ago the Knicks made a 2 year commitment to Randle in that range and he seemed to have better production and value up until that point in his career.
What is the benchmark for both wanting to sign Oubre for $18M versus using the cap space on better alternatives?
Are there realistic better alternatives for wing players this off season? The one year deal allows us the flexibility to either resign him if he as a breakout season or let him walk and go after a better fit next off season. The guy I want is LaVine and if he decides to leave Chicago I think we would have a legit shot at signing him. I would be nervous about missing out on that opportunity because we're locked into Oubre for multiple years. I also think I read or hear somewhere Oubre wants around $20M?
On a 1 year deal and depending on how much you want to spend? Burks/Bullock? DeRozan, Otto Porter, Fournier, Snell.
There are enough options.
martin wrote:Welpee wrote:martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:One year,$18M deal. Let him prove last year is an aberration.
What's the reasoning behind $18M? 2 years ago the Knicks made a 2 year commitment to Randle in that range and he seemed to have better production and value up until that point in his career.
What is the benchmark for both wanting to sign Oubre for $18M versus using the cap space on better alternatives?
Are there realistic better alternatives for wing players this off season? The one year deal allows us the flexibility to either resign him if he as a breakout season or let him walk and go after a better fit next off season. The guy I want is LaVine and if he decides to leave Chicago I think we would have a legit shot at signing him. I would be nervous about missing out on that opportunity because we're locked into Oubre for multiple years. I also think I read or hear somewhere Oubre wants around $20M?
On a 1 year deal and depending on how much you want to spend? Burks/Bullock? DeRozan, Otto Porter, Fournier, Snell.
There are enough options.
I don't know. Bullock, Burks Porter and Snell are certainly Dollar Tree shopping free agents who you can probably get on the cheap and they may be better value options. Fournier and Oubre will probably command around the same money and if so I'd rather go with Oubre's overall potential upside over Fournier's shooting. DeRozan? Hard for me to be objective. Just never been a fan of his game.
What exactly is Oubre good at? I had this question before he was drafted and I’m still having this question now.
martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:One year,$18M deal. Let him prove last year is an aberration.
What's the reasoning behind $18M? 2 years ago the Knicks made a 2 year commitment to Randle in that range and he seemed to have better production and value up until that point in his career.
What is the benchmark for both wanting to sign Oubre for $18M versus using the cap space on better alternatives?
For the record, I'm not particularly crazy about this. But if the FO is, then $18M might be the number that keeps GSW at arms length and reels Kelly in. I think Fornier should be a higher priority.
BigDaddyG wrote:martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:One year,$18M deal. Let him prove last year is an aberration.
What's the reasoning behind $18M? 2 years ago the Knicks made a 2 year commitment to Randle in that range and he seemed to have better production and value up until that point in his career.
What is the benchmark for both wanting to sign Oubre for $18M versus using the cap space on better alternatives?
For the record, I'm not particularly crazy about this. But if the FO is, then $18M might be the number that keeps GSW at arms length and reels Kelly in. I think Fornier should be a higher priority.
Without really paying attention to GS, I think the thing that will keep Oubre away from GS is the repeater luxury tax and Thompson's return.
