Knicks · Who do u have 19-21-32. Be realistic! (page 4)
martin@ 6/26/2021 6:40 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:What do you guys think of Jericho Sims? Seems like his combine stats put him 2nd longest wingspan at 7’3 and 2nd highest vertical at 44.5”.
Briggs - you stealing my guy with your own thread?
I saw Texas a couple times this year and the games that I saw, Kai Jones stood out more than Sims. But to be fair, Sims was in foul trouble in one of the games. Sims looked really good at the Combine. Dude is a ridiculous athlete. He may have played his way into the 1st round.
Anyone know what Sims' offensive game is like? Shooting potential?
He makes Jarret Allen look like Dirk. For now anyway.
From the one clip I saw of him in BRIGG's thread, he makes Mitch look like Frank shooting next to Larry Bird
BigDaddyG@ 6/26/2021 6:47 PM
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:What do you guys think of Jericho Sims? Seems like his combine stats put him 2nd longest wingspan at 7’3 and 2nd highest vertical at 44.5”.
Briggs - you stealing my guy with your own thread?
I saw Texas a couple times this year and the games that I saw, Kai Jones stood out more than Sims. But to be fair, Sims was in foul trouble in one of the games. Sims looked really good at the Combine. Dude is a ridiculous athlete. He may have played his way into the 1st round.
Anyone know what Sims' offensive game is like? Shooting potential?
He makes Jarret Allen look like Dirk. For now anyway.
From the one clip I saw of him in BRIGG's thread, he makes Mitch look like Frank shooting next to Larry Bird
Is this summer workout Frank? If so, that version of Frank makes Larry look like Chris Dudley with a blindfold.
martin@ 6/26/2021 7:00 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:What do you guys think of Jericho Sims? Seems like his combine stats put him 2nd longest wingspan at 7’3 and 2nd highest vertical at 44.5”.
Briggs - you stealing my guy with your own thread?
I saw Texas a couple times this year and the games that I saw, Kai Jones stood out more than Sims. But to be fair, Sims was in foul trouble in one of the games. Sims looked really good at the Combine. Dude is a ridiculous athlete. He may have played his way into the 1st round.
Anyone know what Sims' offensive game is like? Shooting potential?
He makes Jarret Allen look like Dirk. For now anyway.
From the one clip I saw of him in BRIGG's thread, he makes Mitch look like Frank shooting next to Larry Bird
Is this summer workout Frank? If so, that version of Frank makes Larry look like Chris Dudley with a blindfold.
FIBA Frank
BigDaddyG@ 6/26/2021 8:18 PM
Yeah...the Knicks would definitely have to trade up.
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Impressive. IF his shot is legit might have to consider his talents. We needed a bucket getter against the hawks when we went flat. Looks to be able to provide what Alec burks provides if his shot translates.
Difficult decisions this draft year for the front office. Defining decisions which can shape our future potentially.
BRIGGS@ 6/26/2021 8:30 PM
xblvdels3 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Yeah...the Knicks would definitely have to trade up.
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Impressive. IF his shot is legit might have to consider his talents. We needed a bucket getter against the hawks when we went flat.
Difficult decisions this draft year for the front office. Defining decisions which can shape our future potentially.
He’s a wildcard to get into the top 5
Yea. I’d guess 7 or 8
I can definitely see him being in play for 7 or 8. Warriors potentially get a guy who could sub in as a third guard and play next to Curry if Klay needs a break. Orlando gets someone who can take Gary Harris place so they don’t have to automatically sign him next year.
Jimbo5@ 6/26/2021 8:53 PM
I have a feeling the FO will consolidate the picks to move up in the draft and target a SF, depends on how high they can move up but based on some of the player interviews in the combine scottie Barnes, jalen Johnson, maybe also Kispert and Giddy might be an option and probably just sign the starting PG through free agency in the summer with Lonzo, Nunn, Graham all young starting quality PGs that have shown what they can do in the NBA.
xblvdels3@ 6/26/2021 9:29 PM
Jimbo5 wrote:I have a feeling the FO will consolidate the picks to move up in the draft and target a SF, depends on how high they can move up but based on some of the player interviews in the combine scottie Barnes, jalen Johnson, maybe also Kispert and Giddy might be an option and probably just sign the starting PG through free agency in the summer with Lonzo, Nunn, Graham all young starting quality PGs that have shown what they can do in the NBA.
Sounds like a possible route.
I don’t think we will get lower than 8 without including Toppin.
BigDaddyG@ 6/27/2021 1:06 AM
BigDaddyG@ 6/27/2021 1:42 AM
Shots looking a lot better.
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Jimbo5 wrote:I have a feeling the FO will consolidate the picks to move up in the draft and target a SF, depends on how high they can move up but based on some of the player interviews in the combine scottie Barnes, jalen Johnson, maybe also Kispert and Giddy might be an option and probably just sign the starting PG through free agency in the summer with Lonzo, Nunn, Graham all young starting quality PGs that have shown what they can do in the NBA.
Not enough trade ammo.
19+21 doesn't get you to 8-10. MRob plus 19 and 21 doesn't get you to 8-10.
Some pundits are saying the Knicks will try to trade up to attempt to drum up some trade conversations about MRob with other franchises. This is the time of year where media pundits become mouthpieces for various GMs they want to maintain good functional relationships with in the league. Also someone might freefall to 19th overall. If the Knicks have a three player list at 14, odds are two of those guys might be there at 19 if they just stay put. The difference between 19th and 23rd-24th isn't so huge. Nor 21st to 28th.
The Knicks might actually trade back in this draft.
Most likely they catch someone freefalling at 19 and then trade back from 21 if there is a good trade to be had. Barnes will go 6th to 8th in range. Jalen Johnson likely 8th to 10th. That's a ton of draft capital to move from 19 to Barne's range.
The team most likely to trade back for volume would be Houston. But only to the GSW. Not to the Knicks.
Of the teams with the top 12 picks, ZERO have any reason to trade back for volume except Houston.
Trading up and down in the draft is NOT as easy as some here make it out to be. There needs to be a team with a FUNCTIONAL REASON to trade down for volume. And the volume cost is too brutal for the Knicks to pursue a trade that could net a Barnes.
Most media pundits are full of shit this time of year.
xblvdels3@ 6/27/2021 6:09 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:Shots looking a lot better.
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Impressive. IF his shot is legit might have to consider his talents. We needed a bucket getter against the hawks when we went flat. Looks to be able to provide what Alec burks provides if his shot translates.
Difficult decisions this draft year for the front office. Defining decisions which can shape our future potentially.
The probability of us having a chance of drafting him are slim. That trade proposal with GS is one of those chances. But he was a top 10 candidate before the Combine and has really only improved his position.
SupremeCommander@ 6/27/2021 8:29 AM
Jimbo5 wrote:I have a feeling the FO will consolidate the picks to move up in the draft and target a SF, depends on how high they can move up but based on some of the player interviews in the combine scottie Barnes, jalen Johnson, maybe also Kispert and Giddy might be an option and probably just sign the starting PG through free agency in the summer with Lonzo, Nunn, Graham all young starting quality PGs that have shown what they can do in the NBA.
I think this the most likely outcome, and if we end up with either Keon Johnson (two way player) or Corey Kispert (sweet shot and oh so savvy) I would be very pumped
I wouldn't be upset with Jalen Johnson but right or wrong right now I do not see him as a team player
SupremeCommander@ 6/27/2021 8:32 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:
xblvdels3 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Yeah...the Knicks would definitely have to trade up.
Javascript is not enabled or there was problem with the URL: https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1408933504663097350?s=19
Impressive. IF his shot is legit might have to consider his talents. We needed a bucket getter against the hawks when we went flat. Looks to be able to provide what Alec burks provides if his shot translates.
Difficult decisions this draft year for the front office. Defining decisions which can shape our future potentially.
The probability of us having a chance of drafting him are slim. That trade proposal with GS is one of those chances. But he was a top 10 candidate before the Combine and has really only improved his position.
this is how I remember myself playing beer pong /sarcasm... if you read Bouknight's quotes and read between lines, he basically said his shot is really good, but he had to force a lot of shots because his teammates were trash. Watching that it is definitely hard to argue
wargames@ 6/27/2021 5:51 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:I have a feeling the FO will consolidate the picks to move up in the draft and target a SF, depends on how high they can move up but based on some of the player interviews in the combine scottie Barnes, jalen Johnson, maybe also Kispert and Giddy might be an option and probably just sign the starting PG through free agency in the summer with Lonzo, Nunn, Graham all young starting quality PGs that have shown what they can do in the NBA.
I think this the most likely outcome, and if we end up with either Keon Johnson (two way player) or Corey Kispert (sweet shot and oh so savvy) I would be very pumped
I wouldn't be upset with Jalen Johnson but right or wrong right now I do not see him as a team player
I really like it though, don’t go out on a whimper like Ainge did. Move up and grab some damn talent.
Knixkik@ 6/27/2021 6:44 PM
Bouknight looks real smooth. I’m a huge fan if we trade up. He can play the 1,2, or 3 and play on or off the ball. Long wingspan and quickness should give him upside defensively with thibs. This isn’t a Jordan clarkson player, although that could be a reasonable floor. But his ceiling is an elite scorer in the league.
BigDaddyG@ 6/28/2021 7:23 PM
I remember this guy was talked about as surefire first-rounder early in the season. Injuries and inconsistency dulled some of his luster, but I would definitely take a shot with the. 32nd pick, depending on who's left. Good size, athleticism and three point stroke. Shot creation needs work.
BRIGGS@ 6/28/2021 7:59 PM
Knixkik wrote:Bouknight looks real smooth. I’m a huge fan if we trade up. He can play the 1,2, or 3 and play on or off the ball. Long wingspan and quickness should give him upside defensively with thibs. This isn’t a Jordan clarkson player, although that could be a reasonable floor. But his ceiling is an elite scorer in the league.
If I was golden state I’d take him here. He was hurt most of those season. He’s a possible super star and at a minimum will be a force off the bench. I’d take giddet at 14 if avail. They can use giddey wiseman and Bouknight as role players and in two years they become a force as young starters
