Off Topic · Bush reelected :-( (page 61)

Marv @ 7/22/2006 7:42 PM
Posted by martin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE3QDQI4NBo

The Daily Show: Bush Molests German Chancellor Merkel

very good!
Marv @ 7/22/2006 7:47 PM
Posted by MaTT4281:

Ha here's one you can add to that martin...nothing like a good sliced pig right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tve0KUrSn...

HA!
BasketballJones @ 7/22/2006 7:52 PM
God, I hope we can make it through the next 2 1/2 years without this man blowing up the planet.
BasketballJones @ 7/22/2006 7:54 PM
Marv,

I had a dream, maybe you can interpret it for me.

It's one of those dreams that starts out nice, then turns into a nightmare.

I dreamed that Isiah was made General Manager, and we were all happy because Layden was gone.

But then, Isiah kept firing coaches.

Finally, he hired Larry Brown and we were all happy again - a Hall of Fame Coach - someone Isiah and Dolan would respect.

But then, we had the worst season in, like 40 years, and they had to fire Larry Brown.

It was awful.

Thank god it was just a dream!

[Edited by - BASKETBALLJONES on 07-22-2006 19:54]
Marv @ 7/22/2006 7:59 PM
christ!!!

i'd never close my eyes again if i had dreams like that!!!
Silverfuel @ 7/22/2006 11:47 PM
Posted by Marv:

wow i checked what's available on-line, there are some pretty damn interesting sites dedicated to dream interpretation. by theme, content, on-line individual interpretations, discussion forums, call-in numbers, etc. i can't vouch for any one of them, but i'd play around on a couple of them to see what you come up with:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=dream+interpretation&spell=1

my usual rule of thumb is follow the anxiety. whatever element of a dream triggers the most discomfort and anxiety usually holds the key to the root fear that was coming out in that dream.
Hey thanks man. I actually looked at the dream dictionary but didnt know what the trigger word would be. Sometimes I wish I could read peoples minds! The first thing I would do is figure out wtf it is that Isiah is thinking.
MaTT4281 @ 7/23/2006 12:03 AM
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Marv @ 7/23/2006 9:09 AM
Silverfuel @ 7/23/2006 10:38 PM
off digg: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1218048,00.html

Meanwhile, The View From Inside Iran
Hizballah may be Tehran's client, but Iranians aren't buying the propaganda
By AZADEH MOAVENI


* Dispatch: On the Road to Damascus

Posted Sunday, Jul. 23, 2006
Parvin Heydari, an Iranian mother of two, was flipping back and forth between the nightly news and Oprah when a bulletin on an Iranian state channel caught her attention. It urged Iranians to boycott what it called "Zionist products," including those made by Pepsi, Nestlé and Calvin Klein, and warned that profits from such products "are converted into bullets piercing the chests of Lebanese and Palestinian children." As evidence, the voice-over intoned, "Pepsi stands for 'pay each penny to save Israel.'" Heydari says she changed the channel, as she has no intention of crossing Nestlé's Nesquik off her shopping list. "Lebanon has nothing to do with us," she says. "We should mind our own business and concentrate on policies that are good for our economy, and our kids."

To many observers in the Western world, Hizballah, the Lebanese guerrilla group battling Israel, is a mere puppet of Iran. Some are convinced that Hizballah triggered the crisis on Tehran's orders to divert world attention away from Iran's controversial nuclear plans. But client states are not necessarily as docile as one might think. Just as Israel sometimes takes actions that surprise (and even displease) the U.S., Hizballah does things Iran has neither ordered up nor necessarily approves of.

It's impossible to know the precise origins of the current crisis in Lebanon, but since it erupted two weeks ago, the mood in Tehran has swung between indifference--the fighting rarely makes the headlines--and resentment over Iran's longstanding sponsorship of Hizballah. True, there have been officially sponsored rallies declaring support for Hizballah, whose leaders pledge religious allegiance to Iran's Supreme Leader, Ayatullah Ali Khamenei. But the emotional support for Hizballah common throughout the Arab world is largely absent here.

Iranians like Heydari believe that their country, ethnically and linguistically Persian, should stay out of the Arabs' fight with Israel and focus on improving living standards at home. "I don't think it's right to support them when our own people are hungry," says Mohammad Reza Afshari, 23, a mechanic who works two jobs yet still cannot afford to move out or attend college. The shop where he works abuts a vast mural depicting a female suicide bomber with a baby in her arms, accompanied by the words I LOVE MOTHERHOOD, BUT I LOVE MARTYRDOM MORE. Frustration with such propaganda underpins young people's reactions to the conflict. "Where are the Arabs?" asks Afshari angrily. "They're sitting around, while we're risking our position in the world."

It's not only ordinary Iranians who are worried about what the Middle East explosion means for Iran. Even as state infomercials order Iranians to boycott soft drinks, officials in Tehran--pragmatists and conservatives alike--concur that the conflict is bad news for the Iranian regime because it exacerbates the West's image of Tehran as a regional troublemaker. Rather than helpfully distracting attention from Iran, as many have charged, the conflict "undermines Iran's position," says a university professor close to senior Iranian officials.

The thorny nuclear negotiations with the West are likely to become even trickier. The delay in efforts to enforce a cease-fire in Lebanon is inflaming divisions within the Iranian regime on how to respond to the U.S.-backed package of incentives offered to Tehran in June. Before the crisis erupted, the momentum seemed to favor advocates of a pragmatic, positive response. But now the radicals are using the U.S.-backed Israeli campaign in Lebanon to push their case for a tough line. As an adviser to a senior conservative ayatullah puts it, "This has strengthened the hand of those who argue, 'If this happened to us, the only thing that would save us is a nuclear deterrent.'"

In the low-rent neighborhood of Tehran Pars, patrons at a café talk of how to balance faith with the politics of aiding Islamic militant groups. Mehdi Sedaghat, 27, a clothing-store clerk, speaks between bites of his bologna sandwich. "It's our religious duty to aid Muslims who are being killed," says Sedaghat, whose car bears a sticker on the rear window that reads INSURED BY IMAM REZA (Shi'ite Islam's revered figure). "But reality is reality, and we can't afford it." He quotes a Persian proverb: "If the lantern is needed at home, donating it to the mosque is haram [forbidden]."
MaTT4281 @ 7/24/2006 12:47 AM
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Silverfuel @ 7/24/2006 5:43 AM
Would you guys vote for Hillary Clinton?
BasketballJones @ 7/24/2006 11:18 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

Would you guys vote for Hillary Clinton?


That would depend on who she's running against.
MaTT4281 @ 7/25/2006 12:10 AM
Hey, '08 will be my first election I can actually vote in. I'd have no problem voting for Hilary if she's running against anyone even slightly remiscent of Bush.
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Marv @ 7/25/2006 5:06 AM
Posted by MaTT4281:

Hey, '08 will be my first election I can actually vote in. I'd have no problem voting for Hilary if she's running against anyone even slightly remiscent of Bush.
833

you're against bush??????
martin @ 7/25/2006 8:41 AM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by MaTT4281:

Hey, '08 will be my first election I can actually vote in. I'd have no problem voting for Hilary if she's running against anyone even slightly remiscent of Bush.
833

you're against bush??????

dude is finally showing his true colors. Hmmmmm. Sneaky bastard.
Allanfan20 @ 7/25/2006 12:47 PM
Matt, why are you posting in this thread if you're against Bush? I don't get it.
Allanfan20 @ 7/25/2006 12:50 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

Anyone party on Monday nights?

Used to go out to this place every single Monday night with my boys called Mulcahys. Those were the days my friend.
martin @ 7/26/2006 12:15 AM
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Silverfuel @ 7/26/2006 5:36 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by MaTT4281:

Hey, '08 will be my first election I can actually vote in. I'd have no problem voting for Hilary if she's running against anyone even slightly remiscent of Bush.
833
you're against bush??????
dude is finally showing his true colors. Hmmmmm. Sneaky bastard.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I figured the next republican candidate would be Cheaney.
MaTT4281 @ 7/26/2006 10:06 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by MaTT4281:

Hey, '08 will be my first election I can actually vote in. I'd have no problem voting for Hilary if she's running against anyone even slightly remiscent of Bush.
833

you're against bush??????

dude is finally showing his true colors. Hmmmmm. Sneaky bastard.

Ok, ok, I admit it, I don't like bush. Me and my girlfriend got into a fight over it. She says bush can be annoying sometimes, but brings her a sense of warmth of security. I think everything would just go smoother without bush. After a while, we got out the razor and everything was fine.
OH! G. Dubya? Ya, we both hate the guy.

(Ha sorry, I'm running on a lack of sleep right now, better to just ignore anything I might say)
martin @ 7/27/2006 2:14 AM
I LOVE BUSH! 831.

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