I really like that top 10. I think AJ is the guy most likely to drop out of it with Hardy and Duren depending on the team drafting. Will be considered better prospect.
I still have Kessler is a first round pick. His defense is too good and while I don’t trust his three he might be able to pop up a shot from inside the paint.
MarJon Beauchamp being so high and Dyson Daniels being so low feels off but I would love if the Knicks could come away with both. They just seem like the hard working type of roleplayers Thibs would actually give minutes too.
Also good to see Christian Braun in the first round the talent is there and the physical profile.
BigDaddyG@ 1/19/2022 6:20 PM
wargames wrote:
martin wrote:
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I really like that top 10. I think AJ is the guy most likely to drop out of it with Hardy and Duren depending on the team drafting. Will be considered better prospect.
I still have Kessler is a first round pick. His defense is too good and while I don’t trust his three he might be able to pop up a shot from inside the paint.
MarJon Beauchamp being so high and Dyson Daniels being so low feels off but I would love if the Knicks could come away with both. They just seem like the hard working type of roleplayers Thibs would actually give minutes too.
Also good to see Christian Braun in the first round the talent is there and the physical profile.
Unfortunately, not slot of PG talent in the late lottery. Good PF talent to replace Obi when the team eventually trades him.
wargames@ 1/19/2022 7:14 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
wargames wrote:
martin wrote:
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I really like that top 10. I think AJ is the guy most likely to drop out of it with Hardy and Duren depending on the team drafting. Will be considered better prospect.
I still have Kessler is a first round pick. His defense is too good and while I don’t trust his three he might be able to pop up a shot from inside the paint.
MarJon Beauchamp being so high and Dyson Daniels being so low feels off but I would love if the Knicks could come away with both. They just seem like the hard working type of roleplayers Thibs would actually give minutes too.
Also good to see Christian Braun in the first round the talent is there and the physical profile.
Unfortunately, not slot of PG talent in the late lottery. Good PF talent to replace Obi when the team eventually trades him.
We do a lot of “forecasting” but the Knicks have assets to move up. Maybe not into the very top, but Obi, pick #9 - #12 (where I think they end up) and the mavs pick should be able to get up a few spots. TyTy isn’t out their grasp. Flipside they might identify another player (Dyson, Montero, or Davidson) good to take at their pick.
A lot of the draft will sort of be tied to how well Cam Reddish plays. If he looks good, there isn’t any reason why he couldn’t take Obi’s back up PF minutes as well as minutes at the 3. They don’t have to cut Obi’s minutes either. Just wait and move him in the offseason Also that kid Semenic in the G League who is a 4/5 tweener who can shoot the three might be brought up and signed long term with the MLE.
I know the media keeps saying “the Knicks aren’t done this trade window” but there isn’t any real reason they should keep pushing. Getting Cam is plenty and there are the best kind of assets in the draft, low cost assets.
wargames@ 1/20/2022 2:26 AM
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I really like that top 10. I think AJ is the guy most likely to drop out of it with Hardy and Duren depending on the team drafting. Will be considered better prospect.
I still have Kessler is a first round pick. His defense is too good and while I don’t trust his three he might be able to pop up a shot from inside the paint.
MarJon Beauchamp being so high and Dyson Daniels being so low feels off but I would love if the Knicks could come away with both. They just seem like the hard working type of roleplayers Thibs would actually give minutes too.
Also good to see Christian Braun in the first round the talent is there and the physical profile.
Unfortunately, not slot of PG talent in the late lottery. Good PF talent to replace Obi when the team eventually trades him.
We do a lot of “forecasting” but the Knicks have assets to move up. Maybe not into the very top, but Obi, pick #9 - #12 (where I think they end up) and the mavs pick should be able to get up a few spots. TyTy isn’t out their grasp. Flipside they might identify another player (Dyson, Montero, or Davidson) good to take at their pick.
A lot of the draft will sort of be tied to how well Cam Reddish plays. If he looks good, there isn’t any reason why he couldn’t take Obi’s back up PF minutes as well as minutes at the 3. They don’t have to cut Obi’s minutes either. Just wait and move him in the offseason Also that kid Semenic in the G League who is a 4/5 tweener who can shoot the three might be brought up and signed long term with the MLE.
I know the media keeps saying “the Knicks aren’t done this trade window” but there isn’t any real reason they should keep pushing. Getting Cam is plenty and there are the best kind of assets in the draft, low cost assets.
Good point, I think we are going to have to move up for Kennedy Chandler
Philc1@ 1/21/2022 11:41 AM
martin wrote:
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Jabari Smith Chet Holgren Paolo Banchero Jaden Ivey Johnny Davis TyTy Washington AJ Griffin Patrick Baldwin Shadeon Sharpe Kendall Murray
Which is actually a pretty strong top 10. The latter five are not a large drop off from the guys going at #3 or #4 like Ivey or Davis. They all have potential Star upside. In fact 3-10 is up in the air draft wise depending on the teams needs.
Then the next tier of prospects are
Jalen Duren Kendall Brown Ochai Acbaji
These are the guys who look like they have great upside as well. Acbaji is a senior but looks like he might legit be a great player in the league like Desmond Bane. Duren is a freak but hard to pin down what he’ll be in the league. Brown is a raw SF, a bit lazy, but the upside is there if he gets over his motor issues.
Then the next tier of players that have limited upside but they have high floors. They might develop into great players but it will take a while. They should be able to get consistent minutes early.
MarJon Beauchamp Dyson Daniels Christian Braun Nikola Jovic Wendell Moore Tari Eason
After that I have the wild card picks of guys who show really tantalizing ceilings but are a bit raw like Josh Minott or in Fosters case a bit flawed due to his height but very skilled.
Josh Minott Michael Foster
After that I think this draft gets real iffy. Basically just take a chance on anyone you like because they have red flags or haven’t shown a consistent skill. Also the fact that after 10 you are looking at likely roleplayers or just upside guys isn’t ideal. Most draft you hope for better prospects at least until the end of the lottery. Duren might slip into the top #10 but as far as that talent level goes. I expect teams to try and sell late first rounders because 2nd rounder are not guaranteed contracts in case they don’t develop
martin@ 1/26/2022 9:41 AM
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Jabari Smith Chet Holgren Paolo Banchero Jaden Ivey Johnny Davis TyTy Washington AJ Griffin Patrick Baldwin Shadeon Sharpe Kendall Murray
Which is actually a pretty strong top 10. The latter five are not a large drop off from the guys going at #3 or #4 like Ivey or Davis. They all have potential Star upside. In fact 3-10 is up in the air draft wise depending on the teams needs.
Then the next tier of prospects are
Jalen Duren Kendall Brown Ochai Acbaji
These are the guys who look like they have great upside as well. Acbaji is a senior but looks like he might legit be a great player in the league like Desmond Bane. Duren is a freak but hard to pin down what he’ll be in the league. Brown is a raw SF, a bit lazy, but the upside is there if he gets over his motor issues.
Then the next tier of players that have limited upside but they have high floors. They might develop into great players but it will take a while. They should be able to get consistent minutes early.
MarJon Beauchamp Dyson Daniels Christian Braun Nikola Jovic Wendell Moore Tari Eason
After that I have the wild card picks of guys who show really tantalizing ceilings but are a bit raw like Josh Minott or in Fosters case a bit flawed due to his height but very skilled.
Josh Minott Michael Foster
After that I think this draft gets real iffy. Basically just take a chance on anyone you like because they have red flags or haven’t shown a consistent skill. Also the fact that after 10 you are looking at likely roleplayers or just upside guys isn’t ideal. Most draft you hope for better prospects at least until the end of the lottery. Duren might slip into the top #10 but as far as that talent level goes. I expect teams to try and sell late first rounders because 2nd rounder are not guaranteed contracts in case they don’t develop
Agreed...This draft class is more talented and deeper than people are giving it credit for. Especially with the addition of Sharpe...
