Rookie wrote:And Barrett Ben Simmons it with .09 left
No. Barrett was fouled. He also didn’t refuse to shoot. That was a BS no-call.
ScoreBot wrote:FINAL
TOR 90 NYK 87
how many insults can one poster make in a single thread?
ToddTT wrote:We suck. One positive was Obi with over 20 minutes. A couple more minutes and we would have won.
how does Thibs not give him more time next game?
How does he not start? I don't understand going with the same group that gives us 20 point deficits.
Gary have us the business. Whose man was he?
Refs wouldn’t call it if a Knick got decapitated but still
ramtour420 wrote:Gary have us the business. Whose man was he?
probably randle or Fournier- but I honestly don't remember - too many switches.
ramtour420 wrote:Panos wrote:Is there any reason Obi can't play SF and RJ to the SG?
Nope. We would have the tallest lineup in the NBA
And even worse defense
You two seriously think Obi can keep up with other SF?? 
I was opposed to it at first but I think now Thibs needs to start looking at Obi at center.
My keen basketball mind suspects the 20 pt deficit in the 1st quarter may have negatively impacted the outcome.
Swishfm3 wrote:ramtour420 wrote:Panos wrote:Is there any reason Obi can't play SF and RJ to the SG?
Nope. We would have the tallest lineup in the NBA
And even worse defense
You two seriously think Obi can keep up with other SF?? 
I was opposed to it at first but I think now Thibs needs to start looking at Obi at center.
The league has gone real small as of late. Obi could become our version of Turner against certain lineups. Maybe.
MaTT4281 wrote:My keen basketball mind suspects the 20 pt deficit in the 1st quarter may have negatively impacted the outcome.
Nah we needed that 20 point debacle. Because without it the is no Obi coming to rescue our pathetic effort. It was a chance for Obi and he made the most of it
just scan the box score... our SG IQ and RJ cant shoot
losmeister wrote:just scan the box score... our SG IQ and RJ cant shoot
Our shooting guard is EF.
As if the loss and now being 2 games under .500 didn't sting enough, Randle laughing after missing just brought me over the edge. Like WTF is so funny?!

I really thought we were done with the losing after last season. But it's starting to feel more and more like your typical Knicks season. I feel really down and disappointed right now cause I did not expect this. Most disappointed in Randle. It's looking more and more like this dude got paid and decided to mail it in. Taking 8 shots tonight is the prove you need. It's the 4th game this season he's taken less then 10 shots. I don't think he did that at all last season. Cause he was hungry. He wanted to be Most Improved, All-NBA and an All-Star. Now that he has his money, he's not trying or cares as much. Tape doesn't lie. The stats don't lie either. It sucks cause I really liked Randle from last season.
But it's not just Randle. EVERYONE deserves blame here except IQ and Obi cause they are kids. I don't give RJ that slack cause he was the 3rd pick and this is his 3rd season and he's done nothing. Even Thibs, who I love, deserves blame too. When a team comes out flat and not ready to play like tonight, that's on the HC.
And shame on Rose and Perry for Fournier and Kemba. One guy lasted 20 games and the other doesn't defend or plays much in the 4th and provides nothing if his shot isn't falling. Fournier has to be the most anti Thibs type player you can find too. WTF were they thinking?!
Maybe I'm just in a bad mood and overreacting but it's depressing right now.
Allanfan20 wrote:Rookie wrote:And Barrett Ben Simmons it with .09 left
No. Barrett was fouled. He also didn’t refuse to shoot. That was a BS no-call.
The play before when he drove to the basket, was fouled (no call) and kicked it out to the 3 pt line. He needed to shoot it and make it there. And yes, totally agree, he was fouled again on his 3pt shot to end the game. Still road game, don’t let the refs decide it
Rookie wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Rookie wrote:And Barrett Ben Simmons it with .09 left
No. Barrett was fouled. He also didn’t refuse to shoot. That was a BS no-call.
The play before when he drove to the basket, was fouled (no call) and kicked it out to the 3 pt line. He needed to shoot it and make it there. And yes, totally agree, he was fouled again on his 3pt shot to end the game. Still road game, don’t let the refs decide it
That was the right play. He had the shot blocker in his face and the defense collapsed on him. He kicked it out to the “best” player for an open shot.
Our new starting "pg" had 1 pt tonight
Uptown wrote:Our new starting "pg" had 1 pt tonight
Something about that starting unit that makes your stats look weak. Burks could’ve played off the bench all season and wouldve never had 1 pt all game. He’s trying to be a PG instead of being Burks