This couldn't have happened to a more unlikeable team.
And the refs were begging the Nets to win that game too! The 6th foul on Tatum was such an embarrassment! Kudos to Boston. Tatum needs to now be considered on par with the elite players in the league. Completely outplayed KD. He was sensational! Celtics team D was great too. Hate giving Boston so much credit but they deserve it. And f*ck KD and Kyrie! That's what KD gets for running away from the real challenge and signing with that garbage franchise and teamming up with that psycho Kyrie. And I can't wait until they sign that flat earth clown to a long term deal and he quits on them a few weeks in. No need to bash Simmons. The guy just proved he has no competitive spirit. Second only to KD.
Now I just need someone to eliminate Miami! 
smackeddog wrote:Good luck with that!
Nothing better than having the brain trust of KD & Kyrie, Inc. assisting the poor corporate shmoes to run the franchise! LMAO!
As much of an outer body experience it is to root for the Celtics, the clown show little red headed step-brother Brooklyn franchise could fold tomorrow for all I care. And I am almost finding myself actually happy that Harden works out in Philly while Simmons never plays a defensive second for the Nits.
SergioNYK wrote:This couldn't have happened to a more unlikeable team. And the refs were begging the Nets to win that game too! The 6th foul on Tatum was such an embarrassment! Kudos to Boston. Tatum needs to now be considered on par with the elite players in the league. Completely outplayed KD. He was sensational! Celtics team D was great too. Hate giving Boston so much credit but they deserve it. And f*ck KD and Kyrie! That's what KD gets for running away from the real challenge and signing with that garbage franchise and teamming up with that psycho Kyrie. And I can't wait until they sign that flat earth clown to a long term deal and he quits on them a few weeks in. No need to bash Simmons. The guy just proved he has no competitive spirit. Second only to KD.
Now I just need someone to eliminate Miami!
I was on another forum in 2017 back when Phil was considering trading KP and the entire universe had a conniption about it. Said Knicks should trade KP to the Celtics for the 3 pick and Tatum he was the best player in that draft
I only got called a retard 9,000x times for suggesting that
smackeddog wrote:Good luck with that!
Nets are giving Kyrie the max. Yeah, like you said. Good luck
jrodmc wrote:smackeddog wrote:Good luck with that!
Nothing better than having the brain trust of KD & Kyrie, Inc. assisting the poor corporate shmoes to run the franchise! LMAO!
As much of an outer body experience it is to root for the Celtics, the clown show little red headed step-brother Brooklyn franchise could fold tomorrow for all I care. And I am almost finding myself actually happy that Harden works out in Philly while Simmons never plays a defensive second for the Nits.
Look at how fast things can go south. A year or 2 before tweedle dum and tweedle dee joined forces, the Nets were the talk of the town, a team that changed their culture, they were a young up and coming team and a young coach that steered them to the playoffs. KD and Kyrie basically bought their own team took out the coach and replaced a young team with an aging one on minimum contracts. A culture that was hailed a few years back now seems a toxic one.
I hope the knicks FO wont see the appeal of forming a superteam with the knicks, they are better off building it from the ground up, maybe they can outsource a young cornerstone(young superstar) but leave enough in the cupboard to continue building up. The nets just showed everyone how not to do it.
Jimbo5 wrote:jrodmc wrote:smackeddog wrote:Good luck with that!
Nothing better than having the brain trust of KD & Kyrie, Inc. assisting the poor corporate shmoes to run the franchise! LMAO!
As much of an outer body experience it is to root for the Celtics, the clown show little red headed step-brother Brooklyn franchise could fold tomorrow for all I care. And I am almost finding myself actually happy that Harden works out in Philly while Simmons never plays a defensive second for the Nits.
Look at how fast things can go south. A year or 2 before tweedle dum and tweedle dee joined forces, the Nets were the talk of the town, a team that changed their culture, they were a young up and coming team and a young coach that steered them to the playoffs. KD and Kyrie basically bought their own team took out the coach and replaced a young team with an aging one on minimum contracts. A culture that was hailed a few years back now seems a toxic one.
I hope the knicks FO wont see the appeal of forming a superteam with the knicks, they are better off building it from the ground up, maybe they can outsource a young cornerstone(young superstar) but leave enough in the cupboard to continue building up. The nets just showed everyone how not to do it.
Even in retrospect, its pretty hard for me to believe that KD, Kyrie and Harden could implode THIS quickly. I thought they would make some noise first.
Given Kyrie's history any GM willing to take on the risk of signing him, in any sane world scenario, would only offer him a small contract with HUGE performance incentives, otherwise pass. I just don't see why anyone would give him guaranteed money at this point.
Panos wrote:Jimbo5 wrote:jrodmc wrote:smackeddog wrote:Good luck with that!
Nothing better than having the brain trust of KD & Kyrie, Inc. assisting the poor corporate shmoes to run the franchise! LMAO!
As much of an outer body experience it is to root for the Celtics, the clown show little red headed step-brother Brooklyn franchise could fold tomorrow for all I care. And I am almost finding myself actually happy that Harden works out in Philly while Simmons never plays a defensive second for the Nits.
Look at how fast things can go south. A year or 2 before tweedle dum and tweedle dee joined forces, the Nets were the talk of the town, a team that changed their culture, they were a young up and coming team and a young coach that steered them to the playoffs. KD and Kyrie basically bought their own team took out the coach and replaced a young team with an aging one on minimum contracts. A culture that was hailed a few years back now seems a toxic one.
I hope the knicks FO wont see the appeal of forming a superteam with the knicks, they are better off building it from the ground up, maybe they can outsource a young cornerstone(young superstar) but leave enough in the cupboard to continue building up. The nets just showed everyone how not to do it.
Even in retrospect, its pretty hard for me to believe that KD, Kyrie and Harden could implode THIS quickly. I thought they would make some noise first.
Funny you should say that....
“We didn’t make any noise,” Durant said, “but we got to the playoffs.”
Whoop-de-damn-do, to quote one famous Nets forward from the distant past. And good riddance to a basketball team that wasn’t worth the money or the hype.
- Ian O'Connor NY Post
Panos wrote:Given Kyrie's history any GM willing to take on the risk of signing him, in any sane world scenario, would only offer him a small contract with HUGE performance incentives, otherwise pass. I just don't see why anyone would give him guaranteed money at this point.
He’s diagnosed bipolar and clearly spending his entire life being a coddled athlete hasn’t helped
Philc1 wrote:SergioNYK wrote:This couldn't have happened to a more unlikeable team. And the refs were begging the Nets to win that game too! The 6th foul on Tatum was such an embarrassment! Kudos to Boston. Tatum needs to now be considered on par with the elite players in the league. Completely outplayed KD. He was sensational! Celtics team D was great too. Hate giving Boston so much credit but they deserve it. And f*ck KD and Kyrie! That's what KD gets for running away from the real challenge and signing with that garbage franchise and teamming up with that psycho Kyrie. And I can't wait until they sign that flat earth clown to a long term deal and he quits on them a few weeks in. No need to bash Simmons. The guy just proved he has no competitive spirit. Second only to KD.
Now I just need someone to eliminate Miami!
I was on another forum in 2017 back when Phil was considering trading KP and the entire universe had a conniption about it. Said Knicks should trade KP to the Celtics for the 3 pick and Tatum he was the best player in that draft
I only got called a retard 9,000x times for suggesting that
Well, you do have a way with people..........
Jimbo5 wrote:Will these two "Stars" serve as a cautionary tale for The Knicks front office. The knicks are known to be on a hunt for our next superstar i think veteran stars who are actively trying to team up is a red flag in itself, these players however great they are knows that their games are starting to decline. Teaming up for them is self serving to cover up their decline. I hope the knicks front office will have some qualifications in trying to get a superstar, ideally i would like the next generation superstar to come, more aligned to the young knicks timeline. When Kyrie and KD chose the nets and they started acting like jerks putting down the knicks to stir some news their way, i felt the knicks dodged 2 bullets on those two, now with their performance this playoff, its just the icing on the cake. Just bring in young superstars not vets whose games are starting to decline.
Stay the duck away from Lillard. Dude is 1 season away from being washed
Jmpasq wrote:Jimbo5 wrote:Will these two "Stars" serve as a cautionary tale for The Knicks front office. The knicks are known to be on a hunt for our next superstar i think veteran stars who are actively trying to team up is a red flag in itself, these players however great they are knows that their games are starting to decline. Teaming up for them is self serving to cover up their decline. I hope the knicks front office will have some qualifications in trying to get a superstar, ideally i would like the next generation superstar to come, more aligned to the young knicks timeline. When Kyrie and KD chose the nets and they started acting like jerks putting down the knicks to stir some news their way, i felt the knicks dodged 2 bullets on those two, now with their performance this playoff, its just the icing on the cake. Just bring in young superstars not vets whose games are starting to decline.
Stay the duck away from Lillard. Dude is 1 season away from being washed
I don’t want Lillard. Unless it’s a straight up Lillard for Randle deal
Philc1 wrote:Panos wrote:Given Kyrie's history any GM willing to take on the risk of signing him, in any sane world scenario, would only offer him a small contract with HUGE performance incentives, otherwise pass. I just don't see why anyone would give him guaranteed money at this point.
He’s diagnosed bipolar and clearly spending his entire life being a coddled athlete hasn’t helped
He's not been diagnosed bipolar, as far as I'm aware, and if he had been I'd be a lot less critical than I have been. He does have quite a few traits of it, but then he could just be a narcassist, or maybe he's just in the wrong environment and the nba just isn't for him- seems he'd be more content without all the media, coaches, managers- just having autonomy to do what he likes. That's not a bad thing at all, but I'd question why he's remaining in the nba then.
I hated working for a big org, and having little autonomy etc, so I quit and became self employed for a while. Took the initial financial hit, but was happier. That's my issue with him, he can be free if he wants to be but chooses not to be and then complains and acts like he's being hard done by.
smackeddog wrote:Philc1 wrote:Panos wrote:Given Kyrie's history any GM willing to take on the risk of signing him, in any sane world scenario, would only offer him a small contract with HUGE performance incentives, otherwise pass. I just don't see why anyone would give him guaranteed money at this point.
He’s diagnosed bipolar and clearly spending his entire life being a coddled athlete hasn’t helped
He's not been diagnosed bipolar, as far as I'm aware, and if he had been I'd be a lot less critical than I have been. He does have quite a few traits of it, but then he could just be a narcassist, or maybe he's just in the wrong environment and the nba just isn't for him- seems he'd be more content without all the media, coaches, managers- just having autonomy to do what he likes. That's not a bad thing at all, but I'd question why he's remaining in the nba then.
I hated working for a big org, and having little autonomy etc, so I quit and became self employed for a while. Took the initial financial hit, but was happier. That's my issue with him, he can be free if he wants to be but chises not to be and then complains and acts like he's being hard done by.
Good take. I agree with a lot of what you say and for sure like you actualized your place and did something about it. I dont see where Kyrie really complains much. He has some authority issues and does not like being judged on his values. He for sure will be happier when he retires. Funny that he went from Uncle Cliff which was really quite brilliant, and even made a movie about it. He seems to be a deep thinker and sensitive about issues he deems important. When he brings that ahead of his job, a very public one at that is when the clash of “values” exist and he is problamatic to his employer.
At some level you resign him but maybe let him design his own contract were he can take time off, etc, but he don’t get paid. If he misses a certain % of games perhaps it further reduces compensation.
Nets might deem this all not worth it and let him walk, but would another team take him on. He is a massive flake. He frustrates his mates by not playing but they seem to like him both in boston too on the court.
The guy is incredible player.
smackeddog wrote:Philc1 wrote:Panos wrote:Given Kyrie's history any GM willing to take on the risk of signing him, in any sane world scenario, would only offer him a small contract with HUGE performance incentives, otherwise pass. I just don't see why anyone would give him guaranteed money at this point.
He’s diagnosed bipolar and clearly spending his entire life being a coddled athlete hasn’t helped
He's not been diagnosed bipolar, as far as I'm aware, and if he had been I'd be a lot less critical than I have been. He does have quite a few traits of it, but then he could just be a narcassist, or maybe he's just in the wrong environment and the nba just isn't for him- seems he'd be more content without all the media, coaches, managers- just having autonomy to do what he likes. That's not a bad thing at all, but I'd question why he's remaining in the nba then.
I hated working for a big org, and having little autonomy etc, so I quit and became self employed for a while. Took the initial financial hit, but was happier. That's my issue with him, he can be free if he wants to be but chises not to be and then complains and acts like he's being hard done by.
Kyrie is a textbook bipolar disorder diagnosis and many other people think that. He has crazy mood swings and manic episodes. Him being a coddled pro athlete who has made millions and essentially being rewarded for acting this way has not helped matters
I don’t see KD and Kyrie in Brooklyn after next season. It’s over, Johnny
Philc1 wrote:smackeddog wrote:Philc1 wrote:Panos wrote:Given Kyrie's history any GM willing to take on the risk of signing him, in any sane world scenario, would only offer him a small contract with HUGE performance incentives, otherwise pass. I just don't see why anyone would give him guaranteed money at this point.
He’s diagnosed bipolar and clearly spending his entire life being a coddled athlete hasn’t helped
He's not been diagnosed bipolar, as far as I'm aware, and if he had been I'd be a lot less critical than I have been. He does have quite a few traits of it, but then he could just be a narcassist, or maybe he's just in the wrong environment and the nba just isn't for him- seems he'd be more content without all the media, coaches, managers- just having autonomy to do what he likes. That's not a bad thing at all, but I'd question why he's remaining in the nba then.
I hated working for a big org, and having little autonomy etc, so I quit and became self employed for a while. Took the initial financial hit, but was happier. That's my issue with him, he can be free if he wants to be but chises not to be and then complains and acts like he's being hard done by.
Kyrie is a textbook bipolar disorder diagnosis and many other people think that. He has crazy mood swings and manic episodes. Him being a coddled pro athlete who has made millions and essentially being rewarded for acting this way has not helped matters
I don’t see KD and Kyrie in Brooklyn after next season. It’s over, Johnny
You can say you think he’s bipolar, but you can’t say he’s been diagnosed as bipolar, when you have zero proof he’s received any such thing- you can’t just make up s*** about people as if it’s a fact rather than an opinion. It’s just a guess at the end of the day, there’s so much overlap between different diagnosis and we don’t have access to crucial information.
From the NY Times on Monday's game:
"The Nets still had time for one last heave before halftime, and the inbounds pass went to Kyrie Irving with 2.1 seconds remaining. But rather than launch a shot from beyond half-court, he simply dropped the ball for a referee to retrieve as time elapsed."
On WEPN they speculated Kyrie did this because he didn't want to affect his shooting %. Regardless, it says a lot about Kyrie -- and the Nets.
Bill Simmons was saying on his podcast (can’t remember if it was his guess or based on what he’d heard), he thinks the Nets expected Ben Simmons was going to be able to play after the trade, and likely his people told the Nets whatever they wanted to hear to get the trade done (oh he just needs a couple of weeks ramping up practice, his back is fine thec), which is why they weren’t impressed with him when it turned out to be BS. Added (as pure guess), likely the whole pretending he was going to play in game 4 thing was mainly about helping him win his case for getting back the money he lossed via the fines (so he can say his reasons for not playing for the sixers were legit), which again would explain why the Nets were unimpressed.
There is only one question that I really really want to know. Is it only Earth that's flat or are other planets flat as well?
