Knicks · Tari eason---Jaylen Brown with better D (page 2)

franco12 @ 4/27/2022 4:16 AM
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:Tankathon has him going 10. Glad we won those gam3s down the stretch.
me too... might have been the best ball of the season

If Obi and IQ start the season like they finished, then yes, it was worth losing draft standing.

However, if Obi doesn’t (I’m less worried about IQ), then it will be a bit more painful watching a player like Eason perform if he slips like Curry did years ago.

Although I am confident that this group can find really good players anywhere in the draft.

Here is hoping we win the lottery for once and both questions are academic!

martin @ 4/27/2022 8:36 AM
franco12 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
franco12 wrote:Tankathon has him going 10. Glad we won those gam3s down the stretch.
me too... might have been the best ball of the season

If Obi and IQ start the season like they finished, then yes, it was worth losing draft standing.

However, if Obi doesn’t (I’m less worried about IQ), then it will be a bit more painful watching a player like Eason perform if he slips like Curry did years ago.

Although I am confident that this group can find really good players anywhere in the draft.

Here is hoping we win the lottery for once and both questions are academic!

That's the spirit! #1 pick here we come!

martin @ 5/6/2022 1:15 PM
This is for you BRIGGS

franco12 @ 5/6/2022 1:56 PM
martin wrote:This is for you BRIGGS

he looks like he could be the best player in the draft!

KnickDanger @ 5/6/2022 2:04 PM
This is the time of year where these guys' draft projections bounce around like, uh, ping pong balls.
wargames @ 5/6/2022 2:47 PM
Based on my understanding of Perrin him being so right hand dominant won’t work. They prize guys who can use both hands to finish.
fishmike @ 5/6/2022 3:27 PM
BRIGGS wrote:

We dont currently have a match up with Brown or Tatum and at some point youre gonna need that in the east. New longer video of eason 6-8 225

this guy is really good and would fit in really nicely long term imo. Feels like a sure thing rotation guy at worse.
BigDaddyG @ 5/6/2022 3:39 PM
franco12 wrote:
martin wrote:This is for you BRIGGS

he looks like he could be the best player in the draft!

Let's not get crazy. But I definitely wouldn't be upset if he fell to the Knicks. I like him over Sochon, but I'd be happy with both.

BigDaddyG @ 5/6/2022 3:43 PM
wargames wrote:Based on my understanding of Perrin him being so right hand dominant won’t work. They prize guys who can use both hands to finish.

He's a project no doubt, but he's shown flashes of a left hand. The bigger concern is his ability to finish outside of dunk and to dribble left. He needs to develop counters with his left

BRIGGS @ 5/6/2022 4:30 PM
wargames wrote:Based on my understanding of Perrin him being so right hand dominant won’t work. They prize guys who can use both hands to finish.

Jaylen Brown looks pretty much right hand dominant--hows he working out? Hes got good handles--so Im not sure its even an issue. If you can dribble smoothly with your left--that should be fine. Everything else off the charts wingspan size for a 3 diverse possibilities proven two way player 3 level scorer willing to play off the bench and not btch. High end defender of multiple positions but mainly the wing. Powerful bouncy long athlete who goes hard as u can.

wargames @ 5/6/2022 6:33 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
wargames wrote:Based on my understanding of Perrin him being so right hand dominant won’t work. They prize guys who can use both hands to finish.

Jaylen Brown looks pretty much right hand dominant--hows he working out? Hes got good handles--so Im not sure its even an issue. If you can dribble smoothly with your left--that should be fine. Everything else off the charts wingspan size for a 3 diverse possibilities proven two way player 3 level scorer willing to play off the bench and not btch. High end defender of multiple positions but mainly the wing. Powerful bouncy long athlete who goes hard as u can.

I am not arguing your points but like I said based on the Perrin drafting style he focuses on guys who can dribble with both hands doing a fast break.

BRIGGS @ 5/6/2022 8:02 PM
wargames wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
wargames wrote:Based on my understanding of Perrin him being so right hand dominant won’t work. They prize guys who can use both hands to finish.

Jaylen Brown looks pretty much right hand dominant--hows he working out? Hes got good handles--so Im not sure its even an issue. If you can dribble smoothly with your left--that should be fine. Everything else off the charts wingspan size for a 3 diverse possibilities proven two way player 3 level scorer willing to play off the bench and not btch. High end defender of multiple positions but mainly the wing. Powerful bouncy long athlete who goes hard as u can.

I am not arguing your points but like I said based on the Perrin drafting style he focuses on guys who can dribble with both hands doing a fast break.

Eason dribbles w both hands full court?

Nalod @ 5/7/2022 10:05 AM
IF only wingspan and vertical alone was enough……………..
EwingsGlass @ 5/7/2022 11:52 AM
Nalod wrote:IF only wingspan and vertical alone was enough……………..

I think you are missing something in this statement. All rookie players are missing something when they come into the league. And their work ethic when they get here helps decide whether they get the opportunity to play.

Because of this, many teams go young with their draft picks, opting to have multiple years of NBA level training with the hope that they achieve their upside.

You can’t substitute for the hard work. You can’t predict what a young player will do with that opportunity. Well, you kind of can. But when it is all said and done, if you are asking me whether I want to start with a JJ Reddick type that comes out of college with pretty polished game but known limitations or a guy with the athleticism and biometrics to be a star, but needs training and coaching, I think I am drafting the athletic guy with biometrics every time.

They don’t always pan out. They may not have the head. They might not have the grit. They may miss their shot. But that’s just as true for Adam Morrison as it is for anyone else.

I’m taking the long athletic guy with big hands regularly and asking my coaching staff to do their job.

BRIGGS @ 5/7/2022 1:18 PM
Nalod wrote:IF only wingspan and vertical alone was enough……………..

What wingspan can do for a player is make him physically a better defender reach more rebounds finish easier etc. most sf don’t have his measurables.
Nalod @ 5/7/2022 2:58 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Nalod wrote:IF only wingspan and vertical alone was enough……………..

What wingspan can do for a player is make him physically a better defender reach more rebounds finish easier etc. most sf don’t have his measurables.

Yes, I learn at a very early age “big hands matter”……..
My comment was not based on anyting anyone said earlier. My thought was to frand and his 7’1 wingspan and how he had the chops an mostivation to play defense but on offense he was deem tentative, the a patsy.

To your points, we have Cam here based on those “biometrics” we call “potential”. I recall Alan Iverson had some insane reach and understood that really helped. Marbury no so much which made it easier to put his foot in his mouth.

BigDaddyG @ 5/7/2022 5:59 PM
Nalod wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Nalod wrote:IF only wingspan and vertical alone was enough……………..

What wingspan can do for a player is make him physically a better defender reach more rebounds finish easier etc. most sf don’t have his measurables.

Yes, I learn at a very early age “big hands matter”……..
My comment was not based on anyting anyone said earlier. My thought was to frand and his 7’1 wingspan and how he had the chops an mostivation to play defense but on offense he was deem tentative, the a patsy.

To your points, we have Cam here based on those “biometrics” we call “potential”. I recall Alan Iverson had some insane reach and understood that really helped. Marbury no so much which made it easier to put his foot in his mouth.

It's complicated. A crafty player can overcome wingspan difficulties and craft can be learned in some instances. But that's not a given. Mitchell wasn't considered a good finisher coming out of Louisville but he learned it. Luke Kennard still hasn't. Frank has a ridiculous wing span and still hasn't learned it. Now in Eason's case, my main takeaway is that he hasn't developed any counter moves which will be exposed by the better defenders. Also, it's not an uncommon thing for younger players to develop in as little as one summer. It's not something Id be worried about to be honest given his age.

EwingsGlass @ 5/7/2022 8:50 PM
Frank had wingspan but not athleticism. Didn’t seem to have grit either. I like Eason’s other qualities also.
Alpha1971 @ 5/8/2022 7:17 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:Frank had wingspan but not athleticism. Didn’t seem to have grit either. I like Eason’s other qualities also.

Frank lacked grit and motor. He had the potential but was easily satisfied with a good performance. I don't think he believed he was an NBA starter. He still doesn't. My prospect at 11 is Dyson Daniels if he is there. Dyson only lacks a jumper and he can learn that, he has the drive and grit.

Nalod @ 5/12/2022 9:26 AM
Its funny he has grit and motor for defense, but not offense. Im fatigued by frank!
Funny too he is still just 23. I recall when Jason Kidd was not a great shooter but could pass and penetrate. I wonder if he has him as his special pet project as good pairing for Luka? Obviously Frank is more likely on his way out of the league. Also obvious is defense needs a motor and determination and this kid did some nice things on the court. He has the stroke. Is it the yips? The team first euro approach?
His and family back story still leaves me pulling for him to have a good career.
EwingsGlass @ 5/12/2022 12:12 PM
Nalod wrote:Its funny he has grit and motor for defense, but not offense. Im fatigued by frank!
Funny too he is still just 23. I recall when Jason Kidd was not a great shooter but could pass and penetrate. I wonder if he has him as his special pet project as good pairing for Luka? Obviously Frank is more likely on his way out of the league. Also obvious is defense needs a motor and determination and this kid did some nice things on the court. He has the stroke. Is it the yips? The team first euro approach?
His and family back story still leaves me pulling for him to have a good career.

He will do well back in Euroleague.

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