EwingsGlass wrote:So, there is a possibility that the Knicks ran up the value of Barrett, Toppin and IQ and can now make moves to acquire 'stars'. I like the youth movement better because it has more hope and feels more natural, but they probably have the assets to make moves right now. 1) Barrett, Reddish and a Resigned Mitch Robinson (4 years, 60mm) to NOP for Brandon Ingram. With Zion preaching his desire to stay in NOP, it creates a conundrum that both seem to do better with the ball in their hands. I think it is possible we get draft compensation BACK from NOP with this trade as I have Barrett with high value.
Graham/McCollum/Barrett/Williamson/Robinson is a good looking 5 with Reddish possibly growing into that lineup.
2) Fournier, Toppin, IQ and 2 draft picks to Utah for Mitchell.
3) Noel, Walker and 1 draft pick for Myles Turner.
McBride/Rose
Mitchell/Grimes
Ingram/Burks
Randle/Gibson
Turner/Sims
You can fill in the roster with the Bi-Annual, the MLE and Veteran Exceptions. If the heads work together, it would be a pretty solid team. McBride maybe isn't ready to step into the starting 5. But he is close.
Would be an interesting starphuch and would require the starting lineup to split that ball up a bit better than they have historically.
What is interesting is not the end result which can be debated but the amount of change that is potentially posible with the asset pile we have. Not sure about the money factors to that both now and in the next few years and it does limit our pipeline going forward but that is an interesting squad you present.
Nalod wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:So, there is a possibility that the Knicks ran up the value of Barrett, Toppin and IQ and can now make moves to acquire 'stars'. I like the youth movement better because it has more hope and feels more natural, but they probably have the assets to make moves right now. 1) Barrett, Reddish and a Resigned Mitch Robinson (4 years, 60mm) to NOP for Brandon Ingram. With Zion preaching his desire to stay in NOP, it creates a conundrum that both seem to do better with the ball in their hands. I think it is possible we get draft compensation BACK from NOP with this trade as I have Barrett with high value.
Graham/McCollum/Barrett/Williamson/Robinson is a good looking 5 with Reddish possibly growing into that lineup.
2) Fournier, Toppin, IQ and 2 draft picks to Utah for Mitchell.
3) Noel, Walker and 1 draft pick for Myles Turner.
McBride/Rose
Mitchell/Grimes
Ingram/Burks
Randle/Gibson
Turner/Sims
You can fill in the roster with the Bi-Annual, the MLE and Veteran Exceptions. If the heads work together, it would be a pretty solid team. McBride maybe isn't ready to step into the starting 5. But he is close.
Would be an interesting starphuch and would require the starting lineup to split that ball up a bit better than they have historically.
What is interesting is not the end result which can be debated but the amount of change that is potentially posible with the asset pile we have. Not sure about the money factors to that both now and in the next few years and it does limit our pipeline going forward but that is an interesting squad you present.
I think that is right. The kudos to the front office for having assets available to make a move if ready. The money today should work. The only creative license I used was Mitch Robinson's contract for a sign and trade. I presumed $15mm per. Not sure if that is right or wrong in this market, specifically where NOP already has Jonas Valuncius.
For me, they either need to clear out vets to let the youths play. Or they need to clear out youths for value before their contracts expire. That decision has to be made.
If we win the lottery, then what…..
blkexec wrote:If we win the lottery, then what…..
Then hell freezes over and James Harden learns to fly.
How many seasons would it take to get Chet Holmgren to where he is full time starter and then you run into the end of his rookie year? This is not an easy pick. He is like the polar opposite of Zion who is like a “Benjamin Button” type. Zion out of the box physically dominant.
When chet gets an NBA body will he have the “it” factor?
EwingsGlass wrote:Nalod wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:So, there is a possibility that the Knicks ran up the value of Barrett, Toppin and IQ and can now make moves to acquire 'stars'. I like the youth movement better because it has more hope and feels more natural, but they probably have the assets to make moves right now. 1) Barrett, Reddish and a Resigned Mitch Robinson (4 years, 60mm) to NOP for Brandon Ingram. With Zion preaching his desire to stay in NOP, it creates a conundrum that both seem to do better with the ball in their hands. I think it is possible we get draft compensation BACK from NOP with this trade as I have Barrett with high value.
Graham/McCollum/Barrett/Williamson/Robinson is a good looking 5 with Reddish possibly growing into that lineup.
2) Fournier, Toppin, IQ and 2 draft picks to Utah for Mitchell.
3) Noel, Walker and 1 draft pick for Myles Turner.
McBride/Rose
Mitchell/Grimes
Ingram/Burks
Randle/Gibson
Turner/Sims
You can fill in the roster with the Bi-Annual, the MLE and Veteran Exceptions. If the heads work together, it would be a pretty solid team. McBride maybe isn't ready to step into the starting 5. But he is close.
Would be an interesting starphuch and would require the starting lineup to split that ball up a bit better than they have historically.
What is interesting is not the end result which can be debated but the amount of change that is potentially posible with the asset pile we have. Not sure about the money factors to that both now and in the next few years and it does limit our pipeline going forward but that is an interesting squad you present.
I think that is right. The kudos to the front office for having assets available to make a move if ready. The money today should work. The only creative license I used was Mitch Robinson's contract for a sign and trade. I presumed $15mm per. Not sure if that is right or wrong in this market, specifically where NOP already has Jonas Valuncius.
For me, they either need to clear out vets to let the youths play. Or they need to clear out youths for value before their contracts expire. That decision has to be made.
Fantastic takes. Agree about either clearing vets or letting youths play as well. Shit or get off the pot.
By hook or by crook, the youth movement started. In retrospect it was correct to play Burks as IQ was not ready. Give him the keys earlier he would not have looked much better. He progressed thru the season. Rush it, and it does not always equate to better result faster.
Along the way we did give the keys to RJ and result in inefficient numbers but gross reslut was 20pts a game and some clutch moments.
In the end, the invincible but grumpy Jules broke down and Obi got his moment. one take on the grumpy win but Jules bad look could have been he reinjured and it could have been “one more time your done for the season”. That could be why he was upset and why he reported said “He was done”. Just guessing.