Knicks · Views on Shaedan Sharpe or Jaden Ivey which player u like better? (page 1)

I’m going to go sharpe a tad over Ivey.

I would pick Ivey over Sharpe because I just don't know enough about Sharpe and High school talent doesn't always translate to the pros. Ivey is also a need position even if you believe in Deuce. Hopefully one will succeed and if both do then you can trade one to get another asset or for a position of need.

BRIGGS wrote:I’m going to go sharpe a tad over Ivey.

Why?

What has Sharpe shown that separates hims from someone like Gerald Green?

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I’m going to go sharpe a tad over Ivey.

Why?

What has Sharpe shown that separates hims from someone like Gerald Green?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cnhb0UnLMs[/YouTube]

His jumpshot is way better than Ivey and his overall skill level is better. Ivey has the elite explosion but sharpe is no slouch and also 2-3 inches longer.

Personally I think sharpe Murray and ivey are the 3 best players--I dont agree with most prognostications.

He’s got a pure shot.

Ivey is more ready now. Sharpe is the much higher talent. I would go with Sharpe though. I don’t think we are competing with the GSWs just yet. Stack top talent. I don’t know what people aren’t seeing with Sharpe. Looks like a generational talent to me with all the right measurements. With the right opportunity…

BRIGGS wrote:

He’s got a pure shot.

Edited videos of players basically getting two in a row and cutting to next two in a row is pretty common. Biggest issue is you are picking a kid who's last game was a HS game or AAU.
The safer pick is the kid that actually played some college ball and excelled.

HofstraBBall wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

He’s got a pure shot.

Edited videos of players basically getting two in a row and cutting to next two in a row is pretty common. Biggest issue is you are picking a kid who's last game was a HS game or AAU.
The safer pick is the kid that actually played some college ball and excelled.

Kobe lebron Garnett say hello for starters

I'm going with whatever player we got a chance of getting, because DeMar DeRozan was there for us to pick after we missed Curry- instead we picked Jordan Hill. We have to come away from this draft with a player who can contribute in a meaningful way. Failure just sets the franchise back.

franco12 wrote:I'm going with whatever player we got a chance of getting, because DeMar DeRozan was there for us to pick after we missed Curry- instead we picked Jordan Hill. We have to come away from this draft with a player who can contribute in a meaningful way. Failure just sets the franchise back.

I agree. I remember Jordan hill pick. I was screaming to not take him after hooping with him in person that year. No I’m not an nba player just a hooper and hill happened to come in the gym and hooped b4 his draft. I was like no please.

But these two guys is like picking between curry or derozan. I believe both have star Potential. Dyson Daniel’s might be an easier grab using less assets to move up. Daniel’s might be the best PG prospect we can obtain. But Ivey and sharpe definitely have a higher ceiling, but Daniel’s is a tall proven floor general at the point. Unless I’m missing something. I’ll keep watching more tape but I don’t think we can miss in this draft.

blkexec wrote:

franco12 wrote:I'm going with whatever player we got a chance of getting, because DeMar DeRozan was there for us to pick after we missed Curry- instead we picked Jordan Hill. We have to come away from this draft with a player who can contribute in a meaningful way. Failure just sets the franchise back.

I agree. I remember Jordan hill pick. I was screaming to not take him after hooping with him in person that year. No I’m not an nba player just a hooper and hill happened to come in the gym and hooped b4 his draft. I was like no please.

But these two guys is like picking between curry or derozan. I believe both have star Potential. Dyson Daniel’s might be an easier grab using less assets to move up. Daniel’s might be the best PG prospect we can obtain. But Ivey and sharpe definitely have a higher ceiling, but Daniel’s is a tall proven floor general at the point. Unless I’m missing something. I’ll keep watching more tape but I don’t think we can miss in this draft.

do you mean we can't miss if we grab one of these guys, or are you saying you think there is enough talent that will be available at 11?

I feel like we may need to move up to grab a better player, and at 11, we might miss out- even though I think our FO has done a reasonably good job finding talent.

franco12 wrote:

blkexec wrote:

franco12 wrote:I'm going with whatever player we got a chance of getting, because DeMar DeRozan was there for us to pick after we missed Curry- instead we picked Jordan Hill. We have to come away from this draft with a player who can contribute in a meaningful way. Failure just sets the franchise back.

I agree. I remember Jordan hill pick. I was screaming to not take him after hooping with him in person that year. No I’m not an nba player just a hooper and hill happened to come in the gym and hooped b4 his draft. I was like no please.

But these two guys is like picking between curry or derozan. I believe both have star Potential. Dyson Daniel’s might be an easier grab using less assets to move up. Daniel’s might be the best PG prospect we can obtain. But Ivey and sharpe definitely have a higher ceiling, but Daniel’s is a tall proven floor general at the point. Unless I’m missing something. I’ll keep watching more tape but I don’t think we can miss in this draft.

do you mean we can't miss if we grab one of these guys, or are you saying you think there is enough talent that will be available at 11?

I feel like we may need to move up to grab a better player, and at 11, we might miss out- even though I think our FO has done a reasonably good job finding talent.

Yes the first assumption. Those two guys are both can’t miss. But at this point, it looks like all of the guys we want or need will go top 10. If that happens trading down for 2 picks might work. After 10 you can pick a center and a PG or wing.

But I think this might be the time to trade up, even if we use Randle who’s at his lowest value. Take somebody else’s high salary player and give them an extra pick. I’m terrible with trade ideas, but taking s small lost on a Randle trade, to me is still a good move. Addition by subtraction.

With Randle on the team (as good as he is) I don’t see Obi getting much playing time. Need to force thibs into playing Reddish more and others. Draft a forward or big for depth. They have some ready made bigs after pick 11.

Wish I could see a full game or two of Sharpe cause highlights are very misleading and don't show the weaknesses but the kid is obviously talented. I would go with Ivey simply because I've seen more of him and feel more comfortable.

We're not getting either one so whatever.

I’d gamble on either as long as it doesn’t cost an arm and a leg.

Knicks Film School has some thoughts on Ivey: https://knicksfilmschool.substack.com/p/...