Knicks · Not sure about all-stars but the BPAs at 11 look good. Think its between Davis, Eason and Williams (page 1)

That brings us to 8-10 and after the above top 2 tiers the rest is a real crap shoot. I see a lot of really good players we will have a chance to draft one 11.

Here's who I have as BPA:

Bennedict Mathurin
Johnny Davis
Tari Eason
Mark Williams

Mathurin will surely be gone, but the next 3 have that blend of size/skill/athleticism that are too hard to pass on.

That leaves Davis, Eason and Williams on my card and I would be happy with any 3.

Davis looked great vs. Ivey is just a player

Eason makes Briggs all warm on the inside so he must be good

Very few players in the world have Williams size and athleticism. Even if we resign Mitch we have seen over and over again we need a quality 2nd center. Noel never players and Simms has a lot to prove and doesnt have Williams size.

Who else you guys got?

7'2, 7'7 wingspan, good build, 72% from ft, not foul prone, athletic freak. DOPY potential

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb...
Fans tend to find faults with all picks even at the top of the draft, but historically this is an OK spot

AJ Griffin has been mocked to us numerous times; i would not put him in the no way bucket.

WHy did you leave off the OSU sg, Branham? he has been talked about a lot too.

M.Williams has me intrigued but only if he can guard the perimeter too. Size, of course, suggests some Rudy Gobert abilities

(Frankly i am very wary of OSU and Duke -- too many instances of someone underwhelming)

I don't have specific picks but am hoping the FO is prioritizing brains and heart -- we need some true alphas (not ass holes), relentless never say die competitors who don't choke. I also sort of agree with the USA link that #11 seems like a nice slot to get a shooter -- probably one criticized in some way that later proves exaggerated

He is likely undrafted, so - I will go with the other Jayhawk who is in this same range of picks, Ochai Agbaji.

Nice senior, so hopefully more able to step in and contribute right away - looks like his outside shooting improved every year - that is a wonderful trait.

Could he become a Thibs PG? Could he out play Grimes and earn minutes behind Fournier?

the more I read about him, the more I like him:

WASHINGTON -- Kansas guard Ochai Agbaji was the best player on the national championship team, he shot 40.7% from three at a high volume (6.5 3PA/g), he has a plus wingspan (6-foot-10) and recorded the fourth-highest vertical leap at this year's combine (39 inches.). All those traits suggest he should be a high pick in this year's NBA Draft.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local...

fishmike wrote:Think we can all agree these guys will be off the board:
Chet Holmgren
Jabari Smith
Paolo Banchero
Jaden Ivey
Keegan Murray
AJ Griffin
Shaedon Sharp

That brings us to 8-10 and after the above top 2 tiers the rest is a real crap shoot. I see a lot of really good players we will have a chance to draft one 11.

Here's who I have as BPA:

Bennedict Mathurin
Johnny Davis
Tari Eason
Mark Williams

Mathurin will surely be gone, but the next 3 have that blend of size/skill/athleticism that are too hard to pass on.

That leaves Davis, Eason and Williams on my card and I would be happy with any 3.

Davis looked great vs. Ivey is just a player

Eason makes Briggs all warm on the inside so he must be good

Very few players in the world have Williams size and athleticism. Even if we resign Mitch we have seen over and over again we need a quality 2nd center. Noel never players and Simms has a lot to prove and doesnt have Williams size.

Who else you guys got?

I would add Branham to the list. Seems like high upside scorer with a 3 & D floor.

Knixkik wrote:

fishmike wrote:Think we can all agree these guys will be off the board:
Chet Holmgren
Jabari Smith
Paolo Banchero
Jaden Ivey
Keegan Murray
AJ Griffin
Shaedon Sharp

That brings us to 8-10 and after the above top 2 tiers the rest is a real crap shoot. I see a lot of really good players we will have a chance to draft one 11.

Here's who I have as BPA:

Bennedict Mathurin
Johnny Davis
Tari Eason
Mark Williams

Mathurin will surely be gone, but the next 3 have that blend of size/skill/athleticism that are too hard to pass on.

That leaves Davis, Eason and Williams on my card and I would be happy with any 3.

Davis looked great vs. Ivey is just a player

Eason makes Briggs all warm on the inside so he must be good

Very few players in the world have Williams size and athleticism. Even if we resign Mitch we have seen over and over again we need a quality 2nd center. Noel never players and Simms has a lot to prove and doesnt have Williams size.

Who else you guys got?

I would add Branham to the list. Seems like high upside scorer with a 3 & D floor.

fishmike wrote:Think we can all agree these guys will be off the board:
Chet Holmgren
Jabari Smith
Paolo Banchero
Jaden Ivey
Keegan Murray
AJ Griffin
Shaedon Sharp

That brings us to 8-10 and after the above top 2 tiers the rest is a real crap shoot. I see a lot of really good players we will have a chance to draft one 11.

Here's who I have as BPA:

Bennedict Mathurin
Johnny Davis
Tari Eason
Mark Williams

Mathurin will surely be gone, but the next 3 have that blend of size/skill/athleticism that are too hard to pass on.

That leaves Davis, Eason and Williams on my card and I would be happy with any 3.

Davis looked great vs. Ivey is just a player

Eason makes Briggs all warm on the inside so he must be good

Very few players in the world have Williams size and athleticism. Even if we resign Mitch we have seen over and over again we need a quality 2nd center. Noel never players and Simms has a lot to prove and doesnt have Williams size.

Who else you guys got?

Add Dyson Daniels to your list.

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:Think we can all agree these guys will be off the board:
Chet Holmgren
Jabari Smith
Paolo Banchero
Jaden Ivey
Keegan Murray
AJ Griffin
Shaedon Sharp

That brings us to 8-10 and after the above top 2 tiers the rest is a real crap shoot. I see a lot of really good players we will have a chance to draft one 11.

Here's who I have as BPA:

Bennedict Mathurin
Johnny Davis
Tari Eason
Mark Williams

Mathurin will surely be gone, but the next 3 have that blend of size/skill/athleticism that are too hard to pass on.

That leaves Davis, Eason and Williams on my card and I would be happy with any 3.

Davis looked great vs. Ivey is just a player

Eason makes Briggs all warm on the inside so he must be good

Very few players in the world have Williams size and athleticism. Even if we resign Mitch we have seen over and over again we need a quality 2nd center. Noel never players and Simms has a lot to prove and doesnt have Williams size.

Who else you guys got?

Add Dyson Daniels to your list.

Of guys off the board or guys who will be available? I think Dyson is gone by the time pick 11 comes along, though there's been some whisper from draft guys that his J hasn't been as effective in workouts.

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:Think we can all agree these guys will be off the board:
Chet Holmgren
Jabari Smith
Paolo Banchero
Jaden Ivey
Keegan Murray
AJ Griffin
Shaedon Sharp

That brings us to 8-10 and after the above top 2 tiers the rest is a real crap shoot. I see a lot of really good players we will have a chance to draft one 11.

Here's who I have as BPA:

Bennedict Mathurin
Johnny Davis
Tari Eason
Mark Williams

Mathurin will surely be gone, but the next 3 have that blend of size/skill/athleticism that are too hard to pass on.

That leaves Davis, Eason and Williams on my card and I would be happy with any 3.

Davis looked great vs. Ivey is just a player

Eason makes Briggs all warm on the inside so he must be good

Very few players in the world have Williams size and athleticism. Even if we resign Mitch we have seen over and over again we need a quality 2nd center. Noel never players and Simms has a lot to prove and doesnt have Williams size.

Who else you guys got?

Add Dyson Daniels to your list.

Of guys off the board or guys who will be available? I think Dyson is gone by the time pick 11 comes along, though there's been some whisper from draft guys that his J hasn't been as effective in workouts.

fishmike wrote:Think we can all agree these guys will be off the board:
Chet Holmgren
Jabari Smith
Paolo Banchero
Jaden Ivey
Keegan Murray
AJ Griffin
Shaedon Sharp

That brings us to 8-10 and after the above top 2 tiers the rest is a real crap shoot. I see a lot of really good players we will have a chance to draft one 11.

Here's who I have as BPA:

Bennedict Mathurin
Johnny Davis
Tari Eason
Mark Williams

Mathurin will surely be gone, but the next 3 have that blend of size/skill/athleticism that are too hard to pass on.

That leaves Davis, Eason and Williams on my card and I would be happy with any 3.

Davis looked great vs. Ivey is just a player

Eason makes Briggs all warm on the inside so he must be good

Very few players in the world have Williams size and athleticism. Even if we resign Mitch we have seen over and over again we need a quality 2nd center. Noel never players and Simms has a lot to prove and doesnt have Williams size.

Who else you guys got?

Good list.

See Daniels, Mathurin in top 8. Think some have Sharpe too high.
Have Dieng, Agbaji probably going in top 10.

Davis seems to be talked about being a good pick for us. Think Williams, Eason, Sochan, Branham, Davis, Duren and Sharpe will all be available at 11.

I like Davis of those. But hoping Agbaji is also available.

HofstraBBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:Think we can all agree these guys will be off the board:
Chet Holmgren
Jabari Smith
Paolo Banchero
Jaden Ivey
Keegan Murray
AJ Griffin
Shaedon Sharp

That brings us to 8-10 and after the above top 2 tiers the rest is a real crap shoot. I see a lot of really good players we will have a chance to draft one 11.

Here's who I have as BPA:

Bennedict Mathurin
Johnny Davis
Tari Eason
Mark Williams

Mathurin will surely be gone, but the next 3 have that blend of size/skill/athleticism that are too hard to pass on.

That leaves Davis, Eason and Williams on my card and I would be happy with any 3.

Davis looked great vs. Ivey is just a player

Eason makes Briggs all warm on the inside so he must be good

Very few players in the world have Williams size and athleticism. Even if we resign Mitch we have seen over and over again we need a quality 2nd center. Noel never players and Simms has a lot to prove and doesnt have Williams size.

Who else you guys got?

Good list.

See Daniels, Mathurin in top 8. Think some have Sharpe too high.
Have Dieng, Agbaji probably going in top 10.

Davis seems to be talked about being a good pick for us. Think Williams, Eason, Sochan, Branham, Davis, Duren and Sharpe will all be available at 11.

I like Davis of those. But hoping Agbaji is also available.

fishmike wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:Think we can all agree these guys will be off the board:
Chet Holmgren
Jabari Smith
Paolo Banchero
Jaden Ivey
Keegan Murray
AJ Griffin
Shaedon Sharp

That brings us to 8-10 and after the above top 2 tiers the rest is a real crap shoot. I see a lot of really good players we will have a chance to draft one 11.

Here's who I have as BPA:

Bennedict Mathurin
Johnny Davis
Tari Eason
Mark Williams

Mathurin will surely be gone, but the next 3 have that blend of size/skill/athleticism that are too hard to pass on.

That leaves Davis, Eason and Williams on my card and I would be happy with any 3.

Davis looked great vs. Ivey is just a player

Eason makes Briggs all warm on the inside so he must be good

Very few players in the world have Williams size and athleticism. Even if we resign Mitch we have seen over and over again we need a quality 2nd center. Noel never players and Simms has a lot to prove and doesnt have Williams size.

Who else you guys got?

Good list.

See Daniels, Mathurin in top 8. Think some have Sharpe too high.
Have Dieng, Agbaji probably going in top 10.

Davis seems to be talked about being a good pick for us. Think Williams, Eason, Sochan, Branham, Davis, Duren and Sharpe will all be available at 11.

I like Davis of those. But hoping Agbaji is also available.

Sharpe is the wildcard of this draft... only way I see him dropping to 11 is if he had some really bad workout(s) and or some injury rumor pops... at face value he's a specimen

True. Have seen him as high as 5 on some mocks and as low as 12 on others.
Think at the end of the day some may see him as too big of a risk as a top 10 given he did not play last year. However, think anything is possible after pick #4 since most feel the talent level is pretty even and there is no clear guarantee. Does make it hard to predict who will go where. Many of the so called experts/mock drafts seem to be making predictions based on perceived need, rumored interest or workouts recently held.

A few of the mocks have us picking Davis. Seems like he fits. Curious to see if moving up to get Ivey is true. Would probably cost us someone we don't want to see go. Or will Rose make his favorite move and trade back for multiple picks?

Whatever happens, think it will give some sign on what Rose plans on doing in FA.

Is Chet a new version of KD or Shawn Bradly/KP??? 82 games against much bigger more athletic people.

Sharpe being a specimen. So was DSJ and a a host of others. Are you looking at another but different version of Kobe or some guy who was too chicken to test himself against top competition

i also expect San ANtonio and pick someone that everyone else says was way too early or who the heck is he.

should be fun to see it unfold

Chandler wrote:SHarpe and Holmgren should both scare the pants off FOs for different reasons

Is Chet a new version of KD or Shawn Bradly/KP??? 82 games against much bigger more athletic people.

Sharpe being a specimen. So was DSJ and a a host of others. Are you looking at another but different version of Kobe or some guy who was too chicken to test himself against top competition

i also expect San ANtonio and pick someone that everyone else says was way too early or who the heck is he.

should be fun to see it unfold

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:Think we can all agree these guys will be off the board:
Chet Holmgren
Jabari Smith
Paolo Banchero
Jaden Ivey
Keegan Murray
AJ Griffin
Shaedon Sharp

That brings us to 8-10 and after the above top 2 tiers the rest is a real crap shoot. I see a lot of really good players we will have a chance to draft one 11.

Here's who I have as BPA:

Bennedict Mathurin
Johnny Davis
Tari Eason
Mark Williams

Mathurin will surely be gone, but the next 3 have that blend of size/skill/athleticism that are too hard to pass on.

That leaves Davis, Eason and Williams on my card and I would be happy with any 3.

Davis looked great vs. Ivey is just a player

Eason makes Briggs all warm on the inside so he must be good

Very few players in the world have Williams size and athleticism. Even if we resign Mitch we have seen over and over again we need a quality 2nd center. Noel never players and Simms has a lot to prove and doesnt have Williams size.

Who else you guys got?

Add Dyson Daniels to your list.

of the guys I know little about, he's the one that interests me the most

Chandler wrote:SHarpe and Holmgren should both scare the pants off FOs for different reasons

Is Chet a new version of KD or Shawn Bradly/KP??? 82 games against much bigger more athletic people.

Sharpe being a specimen. So was DSJ and a a host of others. Are you looking at another but different version of Kobe or some guy who was too chicken to test himself against top competition

i also expect San ANtonio and pick someone that everyone else says was way too early or who the heck is he.

should be fun to see it unfold

SupremeCommander wrote:

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:Think we can all agree these guys will be off the board:
Chet Holmgren
Jabari Smith
Paolo Banchero
Jaden Ivey
Keegan Murray
AJ Griffin
Shaedon Sharp

That brings us to 8-10 and after the above top 2 tiers the rest is a real crap shoot. I see a lot of really good players we will have a chance to draft one 11.

Here's who I have as BPA:

Bennedict Mathurin
Johnny Davis
Tari Eason
Mark Williams

Mathurin will surely be gone, but the next 3 have that blend of size/skill/athleticism that are too hard to pass on.

That leaves Davis, Eason and Williams on my card and I would be happy with any 3.

Davis looked great vs. Ivey is just a player

Eason makes Briggs all warm on the inside so he must be good

Very few players in the world have Williams size and athleticism. Even if we resign Mitch we have seen over and over again we need a quality 2nd center. Noel never players and Simms has a lot to prove and doesnt have Williams size.

Who else you guys got?

Add Dyson Daniels to your list.

of the guys I know little about, he's the one that interests me the most

Dyson is the one guy you have to believe his shooting form is good enough and that he just needs reps to make sure his shooting %'s will be OK long term to draft him with confidence.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to his GLeague stats, just too much noise there.

fishmike wrote:

Chandler wrote:SHarpe and Holmgren should both scare the pants off FOs for different reasons

Is Chet a new version of KD or Shawn Bradly/KP??? 82 games against much bigger more athletic people.

Sharpe being a specimen. So was DSJ and a a host of others. Are you looking at another but different version of Kobe or some guy who was too chicken to test himself against top competition

i also expect San ANtonio and pick someone that everyone else says was way too early or who the heck is he.

should be fun to see it unfold

if you think the bold I am glad you dont scout for the Knicks... there are zero similarities. Those guys are unicorns.

I don't get your drift or hostility? Scout what, AAU tape? he might be the next Kobe or the next DSJ -- who when entering draft was super highly regarded for explosiveness. We have zero idea how he competes against elite talent

are they identical players -- no, they never are. Have we heard these narratives before about super-elite athleticism or measurables, yes

a little history: players with highest vertical (spoiler having the highest vertical has translated poorly) https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news...