Knicks · Mavs podcast Brunson is staying (page 7)

martin @ 6/29/2022 12:11 PM

martin @ 6/29/2022 12:13 PM

Clean @ 6/29/2022 12:15 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:The only reason for a Sign and Trade at this point is to get Theo back with him!

I like how you think.

martin @ 6/29/2022 12:22 PM
Nalod @ 6/29/2022 2:49 PM
Dallas bluffed and got called out. Maybe he never intended to sign with them, or Dallas thought they could get him for less.
Only negatives Im reading is from fans that don't see a chemistry or thought FVV money was the tops. That was two years ago money.
We'll see the final figure if it to be, and how the roster shakes out.
We are preprogramed to expect the worst.
BigDaddyG @ 6/29/2022 2:56 PM
martin wrote:


Jared Harper? You mean we already had our PG of the future?
BigDaddyG @ 6/29/2022 2:59 PM
Nalod wrote:Dallas bluffed and got called out. Maybe he never intended to sign with them, or Dallas thought they could get him for less.
Only negatives Im reading is from fans that don't see a chemistry or thought FVV money was the tops. That was two years ago money.
We'll see the final figure if it to be, and how the roster shakes out.
We are preprogramed to expect the worst.

Two years ago and it seemed like FVV gave the Raps a bit of a discount. That said, $27M per still has me a bit hesitant.
BigDaddyG @ 6/29/2022 3:21 PM
martin @ 6/29/2022 3:38 PM
smackeddog @ 6/29/2022 3:57 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Nalod wrote:Dallas bluffed and got called out. Maybe he never intended to sign with them, or Dallas thought they could get him for less.
Only negatives Im reading is from fans that don't see a chemistry or thought FVV money was the tops. That was two years ago money.
We'll see the final figure if it to be, and how the roster shakes out.
We are preprogramed to expect the worst.

Two years ago and it seemed like FVV gave the Raps a bit of a discount. That said, $27M per still has me a bit hesitant.

Raptors rumored to be planning on a 4 year $110mil extension for FVV

BigDaddyG @ 6/29/2022 4:05 PM
smackeddog wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Nalod wrote:Dallas bluffed and got called out. Maybe he never intended to sign with them, or Dallas thought they could get him for less.
Only negatives Im reading is from fans that don't see a chemistry or thought FVV money was the tops. That was two years ago money.
We'll see the final figure if it to be, and how the roster shakes out.
We are preprogramed to expect the worst.

Two years ago and it seemed like FVV gave the Raps a bit of a discount. That said, $27M per still has me a bit hesitant.

Raptors rumored to be planning on a 4 year $110mil extension for FVV


Hot take. Brunson, based off his shot profile and sustainability, is a better offensive player than FVV. It's not a considerable edge, but there is a clear delineation. FVV is a better defensive player, no doubt. But, based on their careers and using the simplest projections, is out of the question to say both players are at around the same level?
fishmike @ 6/29/2022 4:41 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Nalod wrote:Dallas bluffed and got called out. Maybe he never intended to sign with them, or Dallas thought they could get him for less.
Only negatives Im reading is from fans that don't see a chemistry or thought FVV money was the tops. That was two years ago money.
We'll see the final figure if it to be, and how the roster shakes out.
We are preprogramed to expect the worst.

Two years ago and it seemed like FVV gave the Raps a bit of a discount. That said, $27M per still has me a bit hesitant.

Raptors rumored to be planning on a 4 year $110mil extension for FVV


Hot take. Brunson, based off his shot profile and sustainability, is a better offensive player than FVV. It's not a considerable edge, but there is a clear delineation. FVV is a better defensive player, no doubt. But, based on their careers and using the simplest projections, is out of the question to say both players are at around the same level?
Im def coming around on that. We'll have to hide Brunson on defense which is why I prefer moving RJ to SG and getting a defensive 3. We cant start Brunson/Fournier

That being said Brunson will play very hard on d. He fights over screens and is very active. He's effective on 3&D guys... like how Trae wrecked things for Bullock in that playoff series.

To me we gotta move Fournier to make this work... once that's done (and hopefully we can upgrade somehow) I think this really makes us better

DJMUSIC @ 6/29/2022 5:33 PM
BRIGGS wrote:https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/platform/a...

I don’t! Get it
Knicks *Grumbling djmusuc

Whom? For the life of Riley is Jalen Brunson bringing?
Regarding intelligent NBA superstars or one level down
NBA Allstars to the Ny Knickerbockers

WHOM?
ANSWER That ? Eh

Jalen is a good kid upside 9-10 rated.
Has he won ? NBA title? NBA Conference?

How many studs or Ja Morant types are
Coming to NBA Knickerbockers cause of this
?

Don't even see knicks winning $$$ pay
Sweepstakes to aign him.

I am far from smartest person on this forum Board
But if you going to $$$ money you need to know
Whom will follow Brunson to Knickerbockers,

Philc1 @ 6/29/2022 5:54 PM
fishmike wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Nalod wrote:Dallas bluffed and got called out. Maybe he never intended to sign with them, or Dallas thought they could get him for less.
Only negatives Im reading is from fans that don't see a chemistry or thought FVV money was the tops. That was two years ago money.
We'll see the final figure if it to be, and how the roster shakes out.
We are preprogramed to expect the worst.

Two years ago and it seemed like FVV gave the Raps a bit of a discount. That said, $27M per still has me a bit hesitant.

Raptors rumored to be planning on a 4 year $110mil extension for FVV


Hot take. Brunson, based off his shot profile and sustainability, is a better offensive player than FVV. It's not a considerable edge, but there is a clear delineation. FVV is a better defensive player, no doubt. But, based on their careers and using the simplest projections, is out of the question to say both players are at around the same level?
Im def coming around on that. We'll have to hide Brunson on defense which is why I prefer moving RJ to SG and getting a defensive 3. We cant start Brunson/Fournier

That being said Brunson will play very hard on d. He fights over screens and is very active. He's effective on 3&D guys... like how Trae wrecked things for Bullock in that playoff series.

To me we gotta move Fournier to make this work... once that's done (and hopefully we can upgrade somehow) I think this really makes us better

I actually think the opposite Fournier is the player who makes it work. Hes a better 3 point shooter than RJ, Randle and Obi and will help spacing. Brunson can dribble penetrate and create passing lanes

smackeddog @ 6/29/2022 6:19 PM

Can see Cuban deciding to screw us shamelessly by trading him to the Heat for Duncan, just out of spite. This had better be a ruse to avoid getting accused of tampering, because it’s the second info leak suggesting Brunson wants his next team to be a winner, plus Riley always gets his man

martin @ 6/29/2022 6:26 PM

BigDaddyG @ 6/29/2022 6:27 PM
smackeddog wrote:

Can see Cuban deciding to screw us shamelessly by trading him to the Heat for Duncan, just out of spite. This had better be a ruse to avoid getting accused of tampering, because it’s the second info leak suggesting Brunson wants his next team to be a winner, plus Riley always gets his man


Of course it's a ruse. It's the same thing FVV did during his free agency. The thing is ... Pat has done more damage with less. He's a sneaky rat and can't be underestimated.
Philc1 @ 6/29/2022 6:32 PM
Brunson meeting with Heat. Rug roh
martin @ 6/29/2022 6:38 PM
Philc1 wrote:Brunson meeting with Heat. Rug roh

We shall call this move The Father-Son Back Channel Coverup

houston20 @ 6/29/2022 6:43 PM
I doubt miami gets him the heat have nothing to offer old broken kyle lowry, tyler hero not sign extention with dallas.
BigDaddyG @ 6/29/2022 6:48 PM
DJMUSIC wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/platform/a...

I don’t! Get it
Knicks *Grumbling djmusuc

Whom? For the life of Riley is Jalen Brunson bringing?
Regarding intelligent NBA superstars or one level down
NBA Allstars to the Ny Knickerbockers

WHOM?
ANSWER That ? Eh

Jalen is a good kid upside 9-10 rated.
Has he won ? NBA title? NBA Conference?

How many studs or Ja Morant types are
Coming to NBA Knickerbockers cause of this
?

Don't even see knicks winning $$$ pay
Sweepstakes to aign him.

I am far from smartest person on this forum Board
But if you going to $$$ money you need to know
Whom will follow Brunson to Knickerbockers,

You have to see it as an investment. Jalen may not bring any players with him, this year or next. But maybe he helps get RJ or IQ to the next level. Those guys, who seem to be well liked in the league then can use their and start chipping away.

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