In typical Knicks fashion they got second rounders back
This is great trade for Detroit. They get two solid veterans for cheap on expiring deals. The vets can help their youth and the Pistons will have the option of trading Burks at the deadline for a pick.
As for us, we have all the cap space we need to sign Brunson and we did not have to give up much to do it.
It’s too much cap space for just Brunson. Might be a bit more to this.
Uptown@ 6/28/2022 10:58 PM
Good stuff here....
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In typical Knicks fashion they got second rounders back
This is great trade for Detroit. They get two solid veterans for cheap on expiring deals. The vets can help their youth and the Pistons will have the option of trading Burks at the deadline for a pick.
As for us, we have all the cap space we need to sign Brunson and we did not have to give up much to do it.
Its a good trade for us and the Pistons. Detroit got two expirings which allows them to open up cap space next year and make a run at a top free agent. Two vets will help their youth as well.
For us, we can hold the Mavs over a barrel as we have all the leverage if we want to complete a sign and trade.
Uptown@ 6/28/2022 11:02 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
TheGame wrote:
wargames wrote:
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In typical Knicks fashion they got second rounders back
This is great trade for Detroit. They get two solid veterans for cheap on expiring deals. The vets can help their youth and the Pistons will have the option of trading Burks at the deadline for a pick.
As for us, we have all the cap space we need to sign Brunson and we did not have to give up much to do it.
It’s too much cap space for just Brunson. Might be a bit more to this.
Word is. they are going to offer Brunson 110 mil now...
EwingsGlass@ 6/28/2022 11:10 PM
Uptown wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
TheGame wrote:
wargames wrote:
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In typical Knicks fashion they got second rounders back
This is great trade for Detroit. They get two solid veterans for cheap on expiring deals. The vets can help their youth and the Pistons will have the option of trading Burks at the deadline for a pick.
As for us, we have all the cap space we need to sign Brunson and we did not have to give up much to do it.
It’s too much cap space for just Brunson. Might be a bit more to this.
Word is. they are going to offer Brunson 110 mil now...
Doesn’t make sense to include Burks if they could just waive Gibson to get enough for that contract. And 110mm for Brunson is too much. I like him at 21mm per. More than that is a reach.
I think Detroit trades are clever because they basically take the only competitor off the table for a max offer sheet.
I dunno, might be overthinking this, but if I could have Miles Bridges at or near a max or Brunson at 27mm, I’m taking Bridges and daring Charlotte to match. Especially if I can make a move for Murray who is a better PG than Brunson.
Uptown@ 6/28/2022 11:10 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Uptown wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:It was a wild ride. Thanks for the memories!
Always liked Burks...He was miscast last season but he's been a solid player for us. Wonder if we are keeping Cam? This should open playing time for him.
Do you think Cam can step into bench/role. Alec, when Rose was out, was the one guy you could count on to create a shot from the wing during a broken play. Cam, with his size and athleticism, would seem like the perfect guy to plug into that role.
For sure...Moving Burks was a move I thought we would complete st last years trading deadline to get a long look at Cam for the 2nd half of the season. This move kind of forces Thibs hand...
martin@ 6/28/2022 11:19 PM
Knixkik wrote:Moving off 19M in space without having to give up a first round pick. 28M if you include Kemba.
Burks + Noel = 2 second round picks Kember = 4 second round picks
$30M for 6 second round picks?
NardDogNation@ 6/28/2022 11:22 PM
I hope the Knicks are smart enough to have incentive-clauses built into the Brunson contract. I'm trying to talk myself into this move and performance bonuses would go a long way toward protecting the franchise and avoid this becoming a bad contract. I also hope they front-load the deal, so that we'd maintain some cap flexibility moving forward. We are far from a finished product and need to maintain the ability to add pieces.
BigDaddyG@ 6/28/2022 11:28 PM
Man, feel bad for Ayton. Lost leverage big time. But who can deny that Detroit ended up getting the better player with their space.
Uptown@ 6/28/2022 11:33 PM
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Holt crap it’s like the Knicks are giving Detroit all of the assets they had prepared for Jaden Ivey, except instead to got cap space and 1st rounders in exchange.
(Is it possible that Ivey is still in the mix?)
martin@ 6/28/2022 11:49 PM
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Add Ayton to that list. I think these Knicks and Pistons trades seriously kill the chance they give him a max deal.
NardDogNation@ 6/29/2022 12:16 AM
martin wrote:This is what Knicks have left... at this moment?
Brunson, Fournier, RJ, Randle, Mitch
Rose, IQ, Cam, Obi, Sims
Grimes, McBride
Need to jettison Fournier... to his original TPE in boston.
Could we dump Randle and Fournier on either the Blazers or Spurs? Seems like both are looking for veterans to help in an ill-concieved playoff push.
technomaster@ 6/29/2022 12:23 AM
martin wrote:This is what Knicks have left... at this moment?
Brunson, Fournier, RJ, Randle, Mitch
Rose, IQ, Cam, Obi, Sims
Grimes, McBride
Need to jettison Fournier... to his original TPE in boston.
Fournier could do well in a wild second unit that includes 6moty candidates Rose, Quickley, and Obi. The Knicks could use a 3&D swingman right about now. If Dallas does s&t, any chance they’d hand over Bullock? He had a hard time finding minutes early in the year when they were mostly healthy.
Clean@ 6/29/2022 12:24 AM
Would it be safe to assume Mitch is definitely getting re-signed? I don't think we trade Noel if the Knicks think Mitch is gone.
NardDogNation@ 6/29/2022 12:27 AM
martin wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
martin wrote:This is what Knicks have left... at this moment?
Brunson, Fournier, RJ, Randle, Mitch
Rose, IQ, Cam, Obi, Sims
Grimes, McBride
Need to jettison Fournier... to his original TPE in boston.
Could we dump Randle and Fournier on either the Blazers or Spurs? Seems like both are looking for veterans to help in an ill-concieved playoff push.
Knicks gotta trade Randle for picks that they include in the Fournier + Randle picks + other picks for Dejounte Murray trade
That would be the Happy Ending we all been waiting for
Why would you want Murray if we'd be paying big money to Jalen Brunson and Derrick Rose with Immanuel Quickly and Miles McBride still on the roster? I prefer Murray to the aforementioned but I think he'd be a poor fit with what we have.
martin@ 6/29/2022 12:27 AM
NardDogNation wrote:
martin wrote:This is what Knicks have left... at this moment?
Brunson, Fournier, RJ, Randle, Mitch
Rose, IQ, Cam, Obi, Sims
Grimes, McBride
Need to jettison Fournier... to his original TPE in boston.
Could we dump Randle and Fournier on either the Blazers or Spurs? Seems like both are looking for veterans to help in an ill-concieved playoff push.
I got it.
Randle to POR for Bledsoe and picks. Bledsoe's expiring gets redirected to Spurs for Dejounte + POR picks + all the Knicks picks.
