Alpha1971 wrote:OG is way better. Two way players. OG as the back up to Grimes and RJ getting 30 minutes. Trade IQ and picks for him with Rose. Then trade for Kuzma to play 3-4 off the bench or a back up two way who can play center /PF to back up Mitch and Randle. IQ OBi Rose Cam Hartenstein Fournier and picks to get two solid rotation two way players with size. Then we still have picks in both rounds and player exceptions to round out the bench going forward. I would like also to trade for Tari Eason or Chris Duarte if OG and Kuzma not available. We have plenty of other options. RJ also could be the bench 2-3-4 if we trade for a superior player to him for the starting lineup.
I’m all in for OG type player but no way Raptors ever consider that type of trade and then you would most likely lose OG if you made him come off bench.
EwingsGlass wrote:martin wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:OG is way better. Two way players. OG as the back up to Grimes and RJ getting 30 minutes. Trade IQ and picks for him with Rose. Then trade for Kuzma to play 3-4 off the bench or a back up two way who can play center /PF to back up Mitch and Randle. IQ OBi Rose Cam Hartenstein Fournier and picks to get two solid rotation two way players with size. Then we still have picks in both rounds and player exceptions to round out the bench going forward. I would like also to trade for Tari Eason or Chris Duarte if OG and Kuzma not available. We have plenty of other options. RJ also could be the bench 2-3-4 if we trade for a superior player to him for the starting lineup.
I’m all in for OG type player but no way Raptors ever consider that type of trade and then you would most likely lose OG if you made him come off bench.
PS Kuzma is a clown.
Yeah, but at least he stays out of trouble. Like I rather he be doing his weird (sometimes really weird lol) fashion stuff than getting shot in a strip club.
NYC is a horrible environment for trouble makers because if you’re looking for trouble, trouble will find you.
wargames wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:martin wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:OG is way better. Two way players. OG as the back up to Grimes and RJ getting 30 minutes. Trade IQ and picks for him with Rose. Then trade for Kuzma to play 3-4 off the bench or a back up two way who can play center /PF to back up Mitch and Randle. IQ OBi Rose Cam Hartenstein Fournier and picks to get two solid rotation two way players with size. Then we still have picks in both rounds and player exceptions to round out the bench going forward. I would like also to trade for Tari Eason or Chris Duarte if OG and Kuzma not available. We have plenty of other options. RJ also could be the bench 2-3-4 if we trade for a superior player to him for the starting lineup.
I’m all in for OG type player but no way Raptors ever consider that type of trade and then you would most likely lose OG if you made him come off bench.
PS Kuzma is a clown.
Yeah, but at least he stays out of trouble. Like I rather he be doing his weird (sometimes really weird lol) fashion stuff than getting shot in a strip club.
NYC is a horrible environment for trouble makers because if you’re looking for trouble, trouble will find you.
I don’t like his game either. High usage low efficiency volume stats.
EwingsGlass wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:OG is way better. Two way players. OG as the back up to Grimes and RJ getting 30 minutes. Trade IQ and picks for him with Rose. Then trade for Kuzma to play 3-4 off the bench or a back up two way who can play center /PF to back up Mitch and Randle. IQ OBi Rose Cam Hartenstein Fournier and picks to get two solid rotation two way players with size. Then we still have picks in both rounds and player exceptions to round out the bench going forward. I would like also to trade for Tari Eason or Chris Duarte if OG and Kuzma not available. We have plenty of other options. RJ also could be the bench 2-3-4 if we trade for a superior player to him for the starting lineup.
OG is front runner for DPOY. Doubt he is gonna be happy as backup. Some injury concerns by OG, but I think you may be undervaluing him.
Not so. He would be get 32 mins a game 16 behind RJ and 16 behind Grimes. Or start him. My goal is to get a team with a bench of players for a 8an playoff rotation. OG and our own " Crazy eyes " to back up Randall and Mitch. Then Deuce to attack the ball handler.
EwingsGlass wrote:wargames wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:martin wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:OG is way better. Two way players. OG as the back up to Grimes and RJ getting 30 minutes. Trade IQ and picks for him with Rose. Then trade for Kuzma to play 3-4 off the bench or a back up two way who can play center /PF to back up Mitch and Randle. IQ OBi Rose Cam Hartenstein Fournier and picks to get two solid rotation two way players with size. Then we still have picks in both rounds and player exceptions to round out the bench going forward. I would like also to trade for Tari Eason or Chris Duarte if OG and Kuzma not available. We have plenty of other options. RJ also could be the bench 2-3-4 if we trade for a superior player to him for the starting lineup.
I’m all in for OG type player but no way Raptors ever consider that type of trade and then you would most likely lose OG if you made him come off bench.
PS Kuzma is a clown.
Yeah, but at least he stays out of trouble. Like I rather he be doing his weird (sometimes really weird lol) fashion stuff than getting shot in a strip club.
NYC is a horrible environment for trouble makers because if you’re looking for trouble, trouble will find you.
I don’t like his game either. High usage low efficiency volume stats.
You mean like RJ and Randle… and no you’re not wrong but him subbing for them would basically not effect much.
Alpha1971 wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:OG is way better. Two way players. OG as the back up to Grimes and RJ getting 30 minutes. Trade IQ and picks for him with Rose. Then trade for Kuzma to play 3-4 off the bench or a back up two way who can play center /PF to back up Mitch and Randle. IQ OBi Rose Cam Hartenstein Fournier and picks to get two solid rotation two way players with size. Then we still have picks in both rounds and player exceptions to round out the bench going forward. I would like also to trade for Tari Eason or Chris Duarte if OG and Kuzma not available. We have plenty of other options. RJ also could be the bench 2-3-4 if we trade for a superior player to him for the starting lineup.
OG is front runner for DPOY. Doubt he is gonna be happy as backup. Some injury concerns by OG, but I think you may be undervaluing him.
Not so. He would be get 32 mins a game 16 behind RJ and 16 behind Grimes. Or start him. My goal is to get a team with a bench of players for a 8an playoff rotation. OG and our own " Crazy eyes " to back up Randall and Mitch. Then Deuce to attack the ball handler.
OG starts over either if either are traded to Toronto. OG is currently the better player. OG is not a backup.
wargames wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:wargames wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:martin wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:OG is way better. Two way players. OG as the back up to Grimes and RJ getting 30 minutes. Trade IQ and picks for him with Rose. Then trade for Kuzma to play 3-4 off the bench or a back up two way who can play center /PF to back up Mitch and Randle. IQ OBi Rose Cam Hartenstein Fournier and picks to get two solid rotation two way players with size. Then we still have picks in both rounds and player exceptions to round out the bench going forward. I would like also to trade for Tari Eason or Chris Duarte if OG and Kuzma not available. We have plenty of other options. RJ also could be the bench 2-3-4 if we trade for a superior player to him for the starting lineup.
I’m all in for OG type player but no way Raptors ever consider that type of trade and then you would most likely lose OG if you made him come off bench.
PS Kuzma is a clown.
Yeah, but at least he stays out of trouble. Like I rather he be doing his weird (sometimes really weird lol) fashion stuff than getting shot in a strip club.
NYC is a horrible environment for trouble makers because if you’re looking for trouble, trouble will find you.
I don’t like his game either. High usage low efficiency volume stats.
You mean like RJ and Randle… and no you’re not wrong but him subbing for them would basically not effect much.
That’s pretty much my point. I’m hoping we fix the problems we have. Not add more.
LaVine's knee scares me. He's lost a step and who knows if he'll ever get it back. Plus he's due a lot of money.
I'd pass for now. Ask me again in the summer.
SergioNYK wrote:LaVine's knee scares me. He's lost a step and who knows if he'll ever get it back. Plus he's due a lot of money.I'd pass for now. Ask me again in the summer.
Grimes is rising and I'd rather stop to see where he tops out at. If Lavine regains his physical pop, I might think about it. But it's still probably a hard no.
EwingsGlass wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:OG is way better. Two way players. OG as the back up to Grimes and RJ getting 30 minutes. Trade IQ and picks for him with Rose. Then trade for Kuzma to play 3-4 off the bench or a back up two way who can play center /PF to back up Mitch and Randle. IQ OBi Rose Cam Hartenstein Fournier and picks to get two solid rotation two way players with size. Then we still have picks in both rounds and player exceptions to round out the bench going forward. I would like also to trade for Tari Eason or Chris Duarte if OG and Kuzma not available. We have plenty of other options. RJ also could be the bench 2-3-4 if we trade for a superior player to him for the starting lineup.
OG is front runner for DPOY. Doubt he is gonna be happy as backup. Some injury concerns by OG, but I think you may be undervaluing him.
Not so. He would be get 32 mins a game 16 behind RJ and 16 behind Grimes. Or start him. My goal is to get a team with a bench of players for a 8an playoff rotation. OG and our own " Crazy eyes " to back up Randall and Mitch. Then Deuce to attack the ball handler.
OG starts over either if either are traded to Toronto. OG is currently the better player. OG is not a backup.
Than you don’t trade for OG. He doesn’t raise the ceiling of the team over RJ or Randle, especially with the way this starting lineup is clicking. If you blow up this starting 5, it’s because you get a superstar.
Knixkik wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:OG is way better. Two way players. OG as the back up to Grimes and RJ getting 30 minutes. Trade IQ and picks for him with Rose. Then trade for Kuzma to play 3-4 off the bench or a back up two way who can play center /PF to back up Mitch and Randle. IQ OBi Rose Cam Hartenstein Fournier and picks to get two solid rotation two way players with size. Then we still have picks in both rounds and player exceptions to round out the bench going forward. I would like also to trade for Tari Eason or Chris Duarte if OG and Kuzma not available. We have plenty of other options. RJ also could be the bench 2-3-4 if we trade for a superior player to him for the starting lineup.
OG is front runner for DPOY. Doubt he is gonna be happy as backup. Some injury concerns by OG, but I think you may be undervaluing him.
Not so. He would be get 32 mins a game 16 behind RJ and 16 behind Grimes. Or start him. My goal is to get a team with a bench of players for a 8an playoff rotation. OG and our own " Crazy eyes " to back up Randall and Mitch. Then Deuce to attack the ball handler.
OG starts over either if either are traded to Toronto. OG is currently the better player. OG is not a backup.
Than you don’t trade for OG. He doesn’t raise the ceiling of the team over RJ or Randle, especially with the way this starting lineup is clicking. If you blow up this starting 5, it’s because you get a superstar.
Over RJ? Hell yeah he does, like sky-higher if there is such a thing. All defensive type SF, can make a 3pt shot at league average.
RJ is more durable, that’s it.
martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:OG is way better. Two way players. OG as the back up to Grimes and RJ getting 30 minutes. Trade IQ and picks for him with Rose. Then trade for Kuzma to play 3-4 off the bench or a back up two way who can play center /PF to back up Mitch and Randle. IQ OBi Rose Cam Hartenstein Fournier and picks to get two solid rotation two way players with size. Then we still have picks in both rounds and player exceptions to round out the bench going forward. I would like also to trade for Tari Eason or Chris Duarte if OG and Kuzma not available. We have plenty of other options. RJ also could be the bench 2-3-4 if we trade for a superior player to him for the starting lineup.
OG is front runner for DPOY. Doubt he is gonna be happy as backup. Some injury concerns by OG, but I think you may be undervaluing him.
Not so. He would be get 32 mins a game 16 behind RJ and 16 behind Grimes. Or start him. My goal is to get a team with a bench of players for a 8an playoff rotation. OG and our own " Crazy eyes " to back up Randall and Mitch. Then Deuce to attack the ball handler.
OG starts over either if either are traded to Toronto. OG is currently the better player. OG is not a backup.
Than you don’t trade for OG. He doesn’t raise the ceiling of the team over RJ or Randle, especially with the way this starting lineup is clicking. If you blow up this starting 5, it’s because you get a superstar.
Over RJ? Hell yeah he does, like sky-higher if there is such a thing. All defensive type SF, can make a 3pt shot at league average.
RJ is more durable, that’s it.
You know we are playing good when we are turning down OG type players, who I thought has 2 way All Star potential.
A SF/PF version of grimes? Strong and agile but less clunky compared to RJ. But at the same time, RJ is a better downhill player and younger? I’m just asking.
Also what kind of package would Toronto ask for in a trade scenario?
The Knicks number #1 priority should be trading RJ Barrett before February.
The problem with trading RJ Barrett is no NBA team want all Barrett's flaws.
I'm so angry with Leon Rose for giving Barrett an extension SAD
The Knicks having a healthy Grimes and Quickley skills at the 48 min SG position, plus sitting D.Rose dynamic combo skills to backup Brunson or Grimes (replaced by Deuce McBride). That take away Barretts minutes at any of the guard's position in the Knicks 48 minute rotation (6 game win streak!).
Taking SF Cam Reddish 2-Way hustle performance out of the rotation in his contract season to give RJ Barrett 34, or 36, or 44 minutes of playing time at the SF position to keep on TRYING to get chemistry with the 8 teammates in the rotation at the SF spot. Good Luck!
NEWS .. Barrett's selfish talent haven't had any type of chemistry with any of his teammates in the starter lineup in 4 straight seasons SMH
Brunson - I’m not looking to trade Brunson. He’s putting in all the right work. Could I find a longer PG, yeah, but this is solid.
Grimes - Becoming a core piece here. I see SGA available and it makes me think, but I think Grimes is the better 3 point shooter (despite some odd splits). I’d want to see the Knicks add a few plays to get Grimes open and not just make him the release valve.
Barrett - The only 22 argument still works. Looking for some consistency here. I think if an OG - Barrett trade materializes, you really have to look deeply at it.
Randle - Man, I love and hate this player. When he is getting to his spots and picking up the double teams, he is a force to be reckoned with. When he forces the shots and Carrie’s the weight of the world on his shoulders, he is a drag. I believe though. I think he can be elite.
Robinson - I don’t think people realize how valuable he is. I think he made Vuc want to retire. He’s got a bit to learn still and probably could use an old school center to teach him all the tricks to dominate the block.
Bench
McBride - Looking for him to continue developing for the next couple years. Could see him taking over the lead PG role with his defense.
IQ - His length and commitment to D are what make me love him. I think his odd shooting form makes it impossible to stay consistent. Simple answer is he has to fix his form. Infinite Range, low probability of success. Just needs more work.
Cam - Still believe in this guy. But looked lost quite a bit. Maybe a few GLeagues would sort him out.
Toppin - Hoping he comes back strong. I don’t really have much complaints but the team is winning without him.
Hart - Sometimes I think this guy is Jokic Jr and other times I wonder if he belongs in the NBA.
Sims - Guy is awesome. Love seeing him develop.
blkexec wrote:martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:OG is way better. Two way players. OG as the back up to Grimes and RJ getting 30 minutes. Trade IQ and picks for him with Rose. Then trade for Kuzma to play 3-4 off the bench or a back up two way who can play center /PF to back up Mitch and Randle. IQ OBi Rose Cam Hartenstein Fournier and picks to get two solid rotation two way players with size. Then we still have picks in both rounds and player exceptions to round out the bench going forward. I would like also to trade for Tari Eason or Chris Duarte if OG and Kuzma not available. We have plenty of other options. RJ also could be the bench 2-3-4 if we trade for a superior player to him for the starting lineup.
OG is front runner for DPOY. Doubt he is gonna be happy as backup. Some injury concerns by OG, but I think you may be undervaluing him.
Not so. He would be get 32 mins a game 16 behind RJ and 16 behind Grimes. Or start him. My goal is to get a team with a bench of players for a 8an playoff rotation. OG and our own " Crazy eyes " to back up Randall and Mitch. Then Deuce to attack the ball handler.
OG starts over either if either are traded to Toronto. OG is currently the better player. OG is not a backup.
Than you don’t trade for OG. He doesn’t raise the ceiling of the team over RJ or Randle, especially with the way this starting lineup is clicking. If you blow up this starting 5, it’s because you get a superstar.
Over RJ? Hell yeah he does, like sky-higher if there is such a thing. All defensive type SF, can make a 3pt shot at league average.
RJ is more durable, that’s it.
You know we are playing good when we are turning down OG type players, who I thought has 2 way All Star potential.
A SF/PF version of grimes? Strong and agile but less clunky compared to RJ. But at the same time, RJ is a better downhill player and younger? I’m just asking.
Also what kind of package would Toronto ask for in a trade scenario?
I wouldn't say less clunky than RJ. In fact, I'd say RJ has better dribble moves. But he is a beast. He doesn't have to shift or change trajectories on his drives to the rim as much as RJ because he can bounce everyone of his shoulders once he gets downhill. And he's more explosive. But don't expect him to do much playmaking. He's a finisher.
Kemet wrote:The Knicks number #1 priority should be trading RJ Barrett before February.
The problem with trading RJ Barrett is no NBA team want all Barrett's flaws.
I'm so angry with Leon Rose for giving Barrett an extension SAD The Knicks having a healthy Grimes and Quickley skills at the 48 min SG position, plus sitting D.Rose dynamic combo skills to backup Brunson or Grimes (replaced by Deuce McBride). That take away Barretts minutes at any of the guard's position in the Knicks 48 minute rotation (6 game win streak!).
Taking SF Cam Reddish 2-Way hustle performance out of the rotation in his contract season to give RJ Barrett 34, or 36, or 44 minutes of playing time at the SF position to keep on TRYING to get chemistry with the 8 teammates in the rotation at the SF spot. Good Luck!
NEWS .. Barrett's selfish talent haven't had any type of chemistry with any of his teammates in the starter lineup in 4 straight seasons SMH
Did RJ not sign your autograph?
Philc1 wrote:Kemet wrote:The Knicks number #1 priority should be trading RJ Barrett before February.
The problem with trading RJ Barrett is no NBA team want all Barrett's flaws.
I'm so angry with Leon Rose for giving Barrett an extension SAD The Knicks having a healthy Grimes and Quickley skills at the 48 min SG position, plus sitting D.Rose dynamic combo skills to backup Brunson or Grimes (replaced by Deuce McBride). That take away Barretts minutes at any of the guard's position in the Knicks 48 minute rotation (6 game win streak!).
Taking SF Cam Reddish 2-Way hustle performance out of the rotation in his contract season to give RJ Barrett 34, or 36, or 44 minutes of playing time at the SF position to keep on TRYING to get chemistry with the 8 teammates in the rotation at the SF spot. Good Luck!
NEWS .. Barrett's selfish talent haven't had any type of chemistry with any of his teammates in the starter lineup in 4 straight seasons SMH
Did RJ not sign your autograph?
He tried, but you know how RJ is when it comes to (ball) point blank(paper) misses. 
